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Old Jun 10, 2007, 01:06 AM   #61
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cool...... so are they worth the extra couple bucks?
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Old Jun 10, 2007, 09:15 AM   #62
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if its not much, i would say so.
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Old Jun 10, 2007, 01:58 PM   #63
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same thing. Stock is limited to a single 7900GTX or a single 1950XTX. Anything better goes up to Pro Stock.
But a x1950xtx can some times be faster than a 2900? Wouldn't it be the same then? Hmm maybe I'll be nice & leave Chaos alone. Broke down & bought a Q6600 which should be here next week sometime. Anyone want an E6700 on the cheap?
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Old Jun 10, 2007, 04:17 PM   #64
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to Chaos and Lowfat i am returning my armor case as i found out the case is somewhat deformed(the add in cards dont align properly with the back) , and getting the Stacker 832 case.

is the fan cage tooless? id rather use screws so i can install the silenX 38mm thick fans.
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Old Jun 10, 2007, 07:05 PM   #65
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Fine then I'll buy a 2900.
If I really wanted to crush the prostock. I could pull 4.2ghz on air and further feed volts into the X1900, but I havent. I wont be having the title for long because I will be going crossfire or SLI of the next gen cards coming out, and using penryn.



@kris yes the xeons imo are worth the extra cash.
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Old Jun 10, 2007, 07:14 PM   #66
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If I really wanted to crush the prostock. I could pull 4.2ghz on air and further feed volts into the X1900.


@kris yes the xeons imo are worth the extra cash.
my god man.............. 4.2GHZ!?!?!?!?!

4.2 freaken GHz....... ok im definitely sold on the Xeons.

the Xeon 3060 is 20 or so dollars above the e6600 and the quadcore is 50 or so......... now thats good info.

whats your cooler? i wanted to get the thermalright ultra extreme but its a little big so i may just get the swiftech cooling kit

but is the fan side panel capable of handling the thicker 38mm fans? or am i stuck with the standard size?
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Old Jun 10, 2007, 07:27 PM   #67
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my god man.............. 4.2GHZ!?!?!?!?!

4.2 freaken GHz....... ok im definitely sold on the Xeons.

the Xeon 3060 is 20 or so dollars above the e6600 and the quadcore is 50 or so......... now thats good info.

whats your cooler? i wanted to get the thermalright ultra extreme but its a little big so i may just get the swiftech cooling kit

but is the fan side panel capable of handling the thicker 38mm fans? or am i stuck with the standard size?
Takes about 1.6-1.65v volts for 4.2ghz with an Enzotech Ultra-X though its only bench stable. And no I dont think it will fit 38mm fans, only 25mm

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Old Jun 10, 2007, 07:32 PM   #68
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okay then.

btw, just for my record purposes. could you please tell me the existing system config ?
all of these info only if they are available by your system monitoring software and it's okay if thay are not acurated enough.
CPU FSB: 500
CPU multiplier: 7x
Memory multiplier: 1:1
Memory timings: 4-4-4-12 twr-6 trfc-30 twtr-9 trrd-6 trtp-6

OverVoltage settings for...
CPU - 1.4125v (voltage damper enabled)
MCH - 1.4v
FSB - 1.4v
PCI-E no PCIE voltage setting, however its set to 120mhz
RAM - 2.3v

System's temperature...
CPU: 38C idle
CPU: 51-52C with Orthos or Everest Stability test
Chipsets: Not a clue, I would have to get a temp probe for it.
Motherboard: 35C
Room Temp - 30C

and PSU's 12V, 3.3V and 5V lines (while in idle, and while in ORTHOS's system stress test)- Not a clue without looking at it further.
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Old Jun 11, 2007, 12:13 AM   #69
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CPU FSB: 500
CPU multiplier: 7x
Memory multiplier: 1:1
Memory timings: 4-4-4-12 twr-6 trfc-30 twtr-9 trrd-6 trtp-6

OverVoltage settings for...
CPU - 1.4125v (voltage damper enabled)
MCH - 1.4v
FSB - 1.4v
PCI-E no PCIE voltage setting, however its set to 120mhz
RAM - 2.3v

System's temperature...
CPU: 38C idle
CPU: 51-52C with Orthos or Everest Stability test
Chipsets: Not a clue, I would have to get a temp probe for it.
Motherboard: 35C
Room Temp - 30C

and PSU's 12V, 3.3V and 5V lines (while in idle, and while in ORTHOS's system stress test)- Not a clue without looking at it further.
Thanks, ChaosMinionX.
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Old Jun 11, 2007, 12:40 AM   #70
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Thanks, ChaosMinionX.
Not a problem.....


I also found out where the hell the errors were coming from....one of my sticks was born retarded and it errors like crazy by itself. The other are memtesting right now flawlessly, this one took me 6hrs of individual testing between P5B Deluxe and P5K Deluxe with loops of memtest, 1 each for all 10 tests. This freakin stick wont even pass the adress itself test right


But the current settings I listed pang are quite liberal I think, I will tighten em down with these other 3 sticks and see how it performs. But just so you know those settings are fine with the functioning ram

EDIT: To clarify

Memory timings: 4-4-4-12 twr-4 trfc-25 twtr-9 trrd-4 trtp-6

Runs rock solid with my working sticks at 2.15v

They will boot 2.10v at DDR2 1000 4-4-4-12 but wont pass memtest.... on the other hand with increased voltage the main timings dont respond any better, 4-4-4-10 isnt stable at all, I will try tweaking one of the 3 latencies at 4 down a bit maybe 3, with exception of CAS because cas 3 DDR2 1000 takes 2.45 to boot on this board. Will report more memory findings.

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Old Jun 11, 2007, 01:57 AM   #71
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GeIL Unleashed team has the Intel BadAxe2 with GeIL Ultra Plus DDR2 800 CAS3 2X1GB @ 507MHz (Frequency) FSB : DRAM 2:3 and 4-4-4-4 with only 2.12V and Prime95 (don't mention for how long). i'm confuse what is the DDR2 speed? -- http://www.geilunleashed.com/review.php?id=2

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Old Jun 11, 2007, 11:18 AM   #72
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GeIL Unleashed team has the Intel BadAxe2 with GeIL Ultra Plus DDR2 800 CAS3 2X1GB @ 507MHz (Frequency) FSB : DRAM 2:3 and 4-4-4-4 with only 2.12V and Prime95 (don't mention for how long). i'm confuse what is the DDR2 speed? -- http://www.geilunleashed.com/review.php?id=2
@420Mhz 3-4-3-4 2.2V Everest Prime95
@435Mhz 3-4-3-4 2.32V Everest Prime95
@447Mhz 3-4-3-4 2.4V Everest Prime95
@507Mhz 4-4-4-4 2.12V Everest Prime95

At 507MHZ that ram is DDR2 1014 at 4-4-4-4
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Old Jun 11, 2007, 01:14 PM   #73
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you got some pretty decent timings there
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Old Jun 12, 2007, 02:21 PM   #74
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ChaosMinionX, i think, if you like to play with both the DIMM timings and its voltage and try to make it for the better or best, you certainly need to run memtest on each and every time after you made the change to the settings in BIOS and before attempting to load Windows.

i would leave a memtest boot media in its drive and have BIOS boot from this drive first, and then after you change the DIMM's setting, save and exit BIOS setup, then upon next boot up, run a short test to verify your settings, may be just run the test #5 of the memtest86+ 1.65/1.70 for about 5 passes or so (to get the memtest86+ to start the test #5 quick... once the system boots into the memtest... press following keys... C --> 1 --> 3 --> 5 --> Enter --> 0).

then if error is found by the memtest, or you like to try a different DIMM voltage or settings, restart the system into BIOS setup... redo a short memtest.
and then you can run a more complete and long test at later time.
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ChaosMinionX, i think, if you like to play with both the DIMM timings and its voltage and try to make it for the better or best, you certainly need to run memtest on each and every time after you made the change to the settings in BIOS and before attempting to load Windows.

i would leave a memtest boot media in its drive and have BIOS boot from this drive first, and then after you change the DIMM's setting, save and exit BIOS setup, then upon next boot up, run a short test to verify your settings, may be just run the test #5 of the memtest86+ 1.65/1.70 for about 5 passes or so (to get the memtest86+ to start the test #5 quick... once the system boots into the memtest... press following keys... C --> 1 --> 3 --> 5 --> Enter --> 0).

then if error is found by the memtest, or you like to try a different DIMM voltage or settings, restart the system into BIOS setup... redo a short memtest.
and then you can run a more complete and long test at later time.
Im in the process of doing so atm actually. I need to get 1 of my 6400C3DF replaced, its dead and erroring like mad. The other 3 are running rock solid.
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Shes up and Runnin!

Heres finished product, still have some cable management to do and sleeving, but heres the early stages. Have some other things to add on as well.




















EDIT: Took a Dremel to the middle of the front 3 mesh/alu faces in front of the HDD Cage 120mm. Installed a temp C/F probe for inside the case.


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so so sexy....... I WANT MY CASE NOW!!!! i miss my old machine
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I have to say that the Stacker is probably the best case I have ever used , I will probably never change again, this is all the case I could ever need


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especially if you know how to mod..... i mean the 4x side vents are suitablee for any dual processor or quad processor system that would come out! i mean as long as it stays within the ATX-EATX range this is the ultimate case!!! you can probably make air ducts for each individual component from the 4 huge 120mm fans

you can probably mod the bottom to use 2 120mm fans as well..... just need a drill or dremel and you are set!
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