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Jan 19, 2007, 01:36 AM
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Pax Modder, Pax Expert
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: S.S. Marie, Mi
Posts: 4,494
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Do you flash your DVD drive RW ect..
Is it safe? I Have NEC 3500AG DVD RW -+ drive
Last edited by Robert McClelland; Jan 19, 2007 at 01:49 AM.
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Jan 19, 2007, 02:19 AM
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DriverHeaven Extreme Member
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Real captial of Canada: Toronto
Posts: 4,734
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Take it from a system builder. Someone who installs thousands of DVD burners a year:
It's a necessity.
Manufacturers constantly updated their firmware in order to fix compatiblity issues, such as with fixing or adding supported blank media, drive issues, and so fourth. You could have a drive that toasts 3 outta every 10 Ridata blank, and through a simple firmware update a manufacturer can sometimes fix the problem. However, the opposite can be true. I've had plenty of drives get worse after an update, and it then took them 2 more updates to fix the fix (you know who you are, LG).
Is it safe? Well, as with flashing anything, safe is as safe does. Almost all flashing utilities put out by the manufacturer will not upgrade a drive that isn't the same as the drive listed for the firmware you are trying to update to. Literally, if the flashing utility doesn't like it, it won't do it. If you use a different flashing utility, or don't follow the instructions as set by the manufacturer, it can be very risky. Also, as always, you should never turn off a PC until after the flashing is done.
NEC is pretty good with their updates. However, there is one thing to remember: read the information that comes with the update. I know NEC puts a winupdater.htm or txt file along with their updates, and they have very specific instructions for updating their drives. Also, most of NECs updates are almost always write speed adjustments for different blank media. For instance, with Princo 16x blank DVD-R the max write speed would be readjusted to 12x for compatibility/reliability sake.
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Jan 19, 2007, 07:39 AM
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Chilling... :)
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Denmark
Posts: 12,534
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I have been doing it for years and it's highly recommendable, because as tipstaff says it adds better compatibility and remove bugs.
I've flashed my Pioneer 110d to a 110l hacked firmware, which makes it regionfree and adds dvd-ram support.
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Jan 19, 2007, 09:37 AM
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Xtreme
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Grande Prairie, AB, Can
Posts: 3,472
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I've flashed a few before. I made my GFs DVD+R to a DVD-+RW by flashing to a different firmware, although it is no longer a 'Phillips' drive  . *My Samsung drive installs a firmware flasher with the software it comes with and automatically flashes to newest firmware. So yes i'd assume it is safe.
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Jan 19, 2007, 10:13 AM
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DH SuperMod
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: By the light of lamp I sit and type...
Posts: 15,744
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I've done it on both my computers to open functionality. Rule of thumb though, if it isn't broken, don't fix it. If you are fine with how your drive is performing, don't take the risk. If you are making a lot of coasters, you might want to look into it. Follow the instructions and you will be fine.
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Jan 19, 2007, 10:54 AM
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DH's Dormant Dragon
Join Date: May 2002
Location: IN Rem-Dormancy
Posts: 23,624
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i've only screwed up a yamaha CD-RW while flashing, and i made damn sure everything was right. Hell it even seemed to work right at first, but everything just kinda fell apart after that, about 15 other drives i've flashed without a hitch.
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Jan 19, 2007, 11:01 AM
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Fell off the tech wagon
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 1,614
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I never have but my DVD drive is the best one I have ever used. i have burned tons and tons of dvd's and cd's and never once got a bad disk. I am so happy with it that if I would flash it I would fear of it not being as good!
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Jan 19, 2007, 11:29 AM
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DH's Dormant Dragon
Join Date: May 2002
Location: IN Rem-Dormancy
Posts: 23,624
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custom,
my thoughts exactly..
typically the same rule sticks, if it's not broke, don't flash it.
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Jan 19, 2007, 11:33 AM
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DH Team Leader
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Vantaa, Finland
Posts: 5,561
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I've flashed my current drive once. And one before it about 5 times. I think it's safe. 
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Jan 19, 2007, 01:09 PM
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Flash Banner Hater
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: UK
Posts: 2,961
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Every drive I've had, flashed to latest firmware with zero losses - I don't have a UPS (really should get one) but avoid flashing during storms. Have also applied limited degrees of "Media Code Speed Edit" tweaking, to apply certain compatibility/performance tweaks.
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Jan 19, 2007, 01:15 PM
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DH News MOD
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Nottingham,UK
Posts: 32,534
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With all the changes in dvd/cd types and brands in todays market,My drives are always kept upto date..
I am yet to have a single problem with any firmware update,so i guess it is a good bet it's safe.
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Jan 19, 2007, 01:46 PM
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DriverHeaven Granddaddy
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Georgia, USA
Posts: 12,102
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If there's a new BIOS for mine, I flash them. So far, I've noticed nothing but improvements or at least the same performance.
I suppose whether you flash yours or not depends on whether you're having any of the problems listed in the updates.
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Jan 19, 2007, 04:14 PM
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Noise? What noise?
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Canada
Posts: 6,797
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I run hacked firmware on my Toshiba drive and always the latest firmware on my Plextor.
Of course... I have a battery back up and never do it if my system is acting goofy.
As safe as it is these days its always good to be cautious
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Jan 19, 2007, 04:29 PM
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DriverHeaven Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Czech Republic
Posts: 1,396
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I keep my drives (Pioneer and Liteon) up to date, they only got better (writing quality/reading performace) so far. I have never encountered any problems with flashing.
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Jan 20, 2007, 01:34 AM
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Pax Modder, Pax Expert
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: S.S. Marie, Mi
Posts: 4,494
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Whats wierd I brought this dvd rw drive for 40 bucks couple years back It was in 6x rewriterible speed now at 16x how can this be? Does have to do with intel infs updates?
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Jan 20, 2007, 02:07 AM
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Mr. Nobody
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: OmniPresent Nightwatcher
Posts: 5,933
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Have done many times and it's very safe if you know what your doing. In worst case cenario you can always bring back a dead drive, done it before, but it's a freakin headache.
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Jan 25, 2007, 11:57 AM
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Noise? What noise?
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Canada
Posts: 6,797
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert McClelland
Whats wierd I brought this dvd rw drive for 40 bucks couple years back It was in 6x rewriterible speed now at 16x how can this be? Does have to do with intel infs updates?
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Driver updates would never do that...
But it can happen, I've just never seen it on anything other than a Plextor (their firmware updates are so kick ass it isn't even funny).
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