Sata

davidhye · Jun 23, 2006, 02:58 AM

hi guys
i m really confused
i didnt know the difference between ide and sata hard drives
so i purchased sata hdd - Seagate 80gb 3.0gb/s
and now i have problems
thing is my master ide (main) burned but i have andother ide that doesnt have windows on it
it has only has music, videos... and it's corrupted so i cant install windows on it
so when i connected new SATA hdd - bios cant find it
in my mobo manual it says:
SATA RAID
build-in VT8237 supports 2 serial ATA devices for the highest data rates (1.5gbps burst) with RAID 0 & RAID 1
does it support my hard drive?
so if my mobo supports only 1.5 - is that a reason bios cant find my hard drive?
and should i find jumper somewhere and put it on hard drive so i would limit it to 1.5gbps
m i doin something wrong? or what?
plz somebody help
thanks

kn00tcn · Jun 23, 2006, 03:20 AM

http://driverheaven.net/showthread.p...highlight=SATA someone was in a similar situation & there's some seagate jumper setting too

davidhye · Jun 23, 2006, 03:37 AM

thanks for reply kn00tcn
so the point is after i ll set hard drive to 1.5 gb/s - bios gonna detect it?
and when i go to bios
do i change ide channel master 0,1,2,3
i dunno which one

CDsDontBurn · Jun 23, 2006, 04:06 AM

if that other HDD that just has all your data will be the only HDD on there, make sure to place it on it's own IDE controller, and then have it set to the master configuration.

kn00tcn · Jun 23, 2006, 04:25 AM

right..... the ide by itself as a master (on the ide cable/channel) & boot from sata.... sounds about right

heh gee the one part of comp hardware i'm not too familiar with...

davidhye · Jun 23, 2006, 03:21 PM

so these are things i need to do
i should change my old ide form slave to master
and after i ll make sata 1.5gb/s and it would be detected?

btw, why can't i make sata master?

Randomletters · Jun 23, 2006, 03:50 PM

sata is just sata there are no master and slave settings because theres only 1 sata device per cable

davidhye · Jun 23, 2006, 04:44 PM

when i connected everything, bios doesn't detect my sata hard drive
only ide
in bios there is setting Integrated Peripherals --> VIA On-chip IDE Device--> SATA
and i set form IDE to RAID
i restarted computer and then it says VIA RAID Controller
and no sata hard drives detected
is putting jumper to limit hd to 1.5gbps (coz my mobo supports only 1.5) going to change everything and detect sata hd?
please help anybody

MiDri · Jun 23, 2006, 04:46 PM

You might need to update your mobo bio and/or get the VIA SATA drivers disk.

Randomletters · Jun 23, 2006, 04:51 PM

yes change the jumper to the 1.5gb/s setting

davidhye · Jun 23, 2006, 05:14 PM

i changed my ide hd to master (like somebody said)
so i used that jumper that was on ide (coz u don't need jumper if u makin hd master u don't need jumper)
and put it on sata one
maybe ide jumper not compatible with sata one
coz still no result
bios don't detect sata

Randomletters · Jun 23, 2006, 05:18 PM

did you try reseting your bios to default settings?

davidhye · Jun 23, 2006, 05:29 PM

oh ssssshhhhhhhiiiiiizzzzzzzzz!
it's workin
i inserted jumper wrong
but i have another problem
i inserted windows xp cd
but it is not loadin
it says windows could not started because one of the files is missing or corrupted

what do i do?
and also it shows VIA RAID controller
i should tap TAB quick
and there it says create RAID array with hard drives attached to VIA RAID controller
maybe all this because of ide hard drive set to master
or is it makes difference what port do i use on mobo - sata 1 or sata 2

davidhye · Jun 23, 2006, 05:46 PM

never mind on previous post
i think igot it work
for now i just took off old ide
i ll install it later

PangingJr · Jun 24, 2006, 12:35 AM

i think you already know what this is... under the P-ATA (ATA or IDE) hard drive the Master/Slave setting is done via the hard drive's jumper pins and master/slave positions on IDE connector of the IDE cable.

but you may not know this... for systems that use S-ATA hard drives and the standard "IDE mode" have been configured for the controller/connectors the hard drives Master/Slave setting are still exist.

with S-ATA hard drives the Master/Slave setting can only be accomplished via the connectors (SATA ports).

when the S-ATA hard drives are connected to the connectors that are designed for handing the master/slave setting, Both the motherboard's BIOS's and Windows's devices mapping (and device mounting in Windows) info will show the status of master/slave of the devices accordingly.
BIOS POST screen shows the info during the system starts, the Windows Device Manager displays the similar info under the node IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers.

master/slave setting do not exist in system that is configured for RAID (this also includes IDE RAID or ATA RAID), the RAID's BIOS handles the S-ATA controller/connectors differently.
once the system has been configured for RAID, the BIOS RAID takes over the control of the S-ATA controller/connectors from the motherboard's BIOS.

anyway, by default, the SATA_1 is normally set for use as Master. the rest and other S-ATA connectors can be very. different motherboards and chipset that is used on the board have different settings on this...