Your Opinions on the Pentium D 805

Randomletters

After reading the TH.com review on it and checking its current price on newegg $118 it seems like the best bang for the buck right now.

Ill be purchasing the parts for my new rig week by week and for the last two weeks ive been set on an AM2 rig, Specs in sig, But I can get the Pentium D and Socket 775 mother board for slightly cheaper and it seems like it would outpreform the 3000+ every which way. I am leaning more towards the Pentium D rig and with the motherboard im looking at on sale this week I will mosyt likely make that my first purchase.

So what are your opinions on the 805,

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819116001

hackerx

the pentium d 805 is the best darn budget chip out there.
And it's highly overclockable.Provided u have a good motherboard.
What i would suggest is that u get a pentium d 930($190 approx) and a motherboard with the intel 945p chipset in it.That way u'll get a chip that produces less heat and consumes less power than the 805,but as overclockable.
The 945p chipset based motherboard will provide enough features and good overclockin head room.I would personally suggest the gigabyte 945p-pro($100 approx)
Together the price comes to about $300(or less)but it's worth every penny.
Take it from the dude who owns it(me)
But if u want to buy the pentium d 805.Get an intel 975x chipset based motherboard like the abit A8WD(highly overclockable and cheaper than the competition) and a good cooler like the arctic cooling freezer 7 pro.That way u can overclock the thing to atleast 3.8ghz.And price stays around the same cause of the reduced price of the processor(and the great abit mobo)
3rd party cooling is necessary if u plan on ocing.
Hope i've been of help.

Randomletters

Yea going above the price of the am2 rig in my sig is completely out of the question im going to draw the line at either the 3000+ or P D 805 Theres always something better out there and I dont want to go above mid range. I will look into the 975x chipset but im assuming its going to be much more expensive then im willing to go.

To me it kinda defeats the purpose of buying a budget proc then buying a $180 motherboard, That and I just dont have the $ ill be going with an asrock motherboard which more fits the whole budget rig theme

Alien1

Pentium in my opinion just sucks

They are old cpu architecture running hot , eating a lot of watts and they are slow except in a few special cases


Now that AMD is going to drop prices to all their CPU sollutions i do not see why someone would choose to buy a Intel sollution (except if he is going for a new Intel CORE cpu system of course)

CDsDontBurn

@ Random: both alien1 and hackerx are too biased to make any kind of valid and reasonable post towards what you're working for in a new system. take it from me, i know the situation you are in, and am more understandable towards what your needs are.

take into consideration both the pros and cons of both the 3000+ and the 805. i haven't looked at any of specs of the 805 aside from what newegg has posted (which is enough to know the processor lol), and it seems to me that the 805 will be a better overall processor to buy compared to the 3000+. to me, the main reason why i would get it over the 3000+ is because it supports dual core. also, because it runs on a 533Mhz bus, i know that the processor is hella overclockable, so if you're looking to get some extra juice out of the processor, you'll have a whole lot of head room to do so.

also, another thing going for the 805, is that it is already on the current socket, and it doesn't seem that intel is changing from their 775 socket anytime soon. unlike AMD who is going to the AM2 socket, so that 3000+ will be dated as soon as that is widely available (if it isn't already ). so, because of that, you will be able to upgrade your CPU without needing to upgrade your MoBo later in the future.

well, that's about all i can say right now.

Alien1

That was really provoking and uncalled
and i have surely better things to do than sit and play your "Flame war" game

Everyone has their opinion in these
Like it or not

CDsDontBurn

didn't mean for it to come out like a flame if that's how you took it.

i was just saying that you recommend he get an AMD because they're dropping prices and because intel CPUs run hot. and hacker was saying for him to get something top of the line. random is just looking for something that gives him best bang for the buck, be it AMD or Intel. then i came along and said for him to do his research and see which one fits the bill better, but i was a bit more biased towards the 805, knowing what kind of rig he wants to build for himself.

and you are right. everybody has their own opinions, including myself .

Lowfat

Not quite right yet, as there is only one motherboard on the market right now that suports next-gen Intel CPUs.

CDsDontBurn

well....alright. i didn't mean to say the new conroe/core2 CPUs, as you're right. the only MoBo that supports it ATM is that ASUS MoBo. i was referring the the 8xx and 9xx series CPUs.

Randomletters

Thanks for your posts guys, I am set on the Pentium D system, both because of its low cost and its overclockablitity ( Hits 4ghz on Water Cooling, 3.4/3.6 w/o)

CDs That 3000+ is Socket AM2 so future upgradability wouldnt really of been a problem Either way I wont upgrade from a 3.6ghz Dual Core processor anytime soon This system once completed will last me a good while.

CDsDontBurn

lol.....if that's the case.....then stick w/intel as they're better known for their reliability compared to the AMD chips

hawkeyefan

: duh:

that is 1) COMPLETELY ridiculous claim/statement that is absolutely beyond any sort of proof or reason and 2) I mean c'mon now...you can't honestly believe that?!?!

AMD is #1 (by a landslide) in server CPU sales for a reason


btw as to the original question...if you are mostly encoding, etc. you are (possibly) better off with the Pentium space heater. though if you wait a couple weeks, an AM2 X2 3800+ will be ~$150 USD and is undeniably faster than a comparably priced Pentium D.

If this is a gaming rig you might consider sticking to single core and overclocking. a good example would be my S939 3000+ @ 2800mhz, whose 3D performance will quite simply quite simply crush anything in the entire P4 lineup. single or dual. period.

hackerx

but by that time the pentium d 805 will be priced @ $85.And the pentium d 930 will cost around $150.
And the new pentium d 945(thats a pentium d 940 without virtualization) will costs around $162.
So i guess it's all down to preference.
And in those couple of weeks.conroe will also come out.And AMD's announced price cuts only come into effect the day after conroe has been released.
U'd be better off getting a entry level conroe(core 2 duo)

hawkeyefan

touche

I still wouldn't touch that thing, imho....just too hot

945D @ $162 looks like a steal

edit: AFA Conroe goes....I wouldn't recommend anybody holding their breath on Intel's release date...wouldn't be the first time by any stretch, lol

Zardon

guys is there a problem with addressing each other in a mature manner in the forums lately? some of the posts in this thread are neither helpful to the thread starter nor are they the kind of posting we should be seeing in these forums.

Lets all chill out a little, ok ?

CDsDontBurn

yes boss . sorry, been a bit edgy lately

mike2h

go with the 805. great chip fo the price. especially if you plan on getting some good cooling for it. chx out the new zalman heatsink.
stay awy from the 900 series if you want to oc - unless you plan on spending $$ on cooling. my 940 performs great but runs really hot. hoping my new alphaccol h2o setup will take care of that

Sandok

Alot of us have been... But I agree with you that for the price and possibilities, the Intel is the way to go!

Anywasy, random already made his choice

hawkeyefan

wanted to insert my apologies to everyone who had the misfortune to read any of my posts from last night. i was in a pissy mood, no excuse, will not happen again.

especially@CDsDontBurn

btw, found the pink SocketAs....lolz did not know they even existed. I might just buy one cause it's so pretty

Randomletters

Yep yep decision made BTW check out these Graphs from a 805 vs 3000+ review:




Now THATS an intel fanboy LOL Either way i cant wait for my new comp now if i can just juggle insurance, mechanic bill, and this computer.

CDsDontBurn

@hawkeye: apology accepted

@ random: i like the comparison charts....especially the first one

The_Neon_Cowboy

I would go the extra money and buy the 820 or 9XX, but if you going to o/c yea , it is a avlue procssor after all. I built my dad one it's "ok" of cours my X2 smokes it. But for
the price your getting alot.

Thats a "myth" mosty based from users who hadn't the 1st clue bout what thier doing,
doing things like mounting the cooler improperly. Wich is USER error.

hawkeyefan