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Mar 7, 2006, 11:00 PM
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ATi Freak!!
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Virginia, US
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No One saw Intel Pwning?
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Mar 8, 2006, 12:51 AM
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DriverHeaven Extreme Member
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Woah.... Now that's something you only saw with the Pentium M 
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Mar 8, 2006, 05:01 AM
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DriverHeaven Senior Member
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Location: Scotland
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Too little too late, I just upgraded so if Intel want my business again they need to be still ahead in a couple of years time. Just bought my first AMD chip ever - Opteron 165
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Mar 8, 2006, 05:57 AM
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Xtreme
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Grande Prairie, AB, Can
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Originally Posted by Sandok
Woah.... Now that's something you only saw with the Pentium M 
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Even better than the M. Its like a more refined dual core M @ a much higher FSB.
Conroe will rule. That isn't even with their Extreme Edition which will likely be 3.33GHz, 333FSB unlike the one tested which has a 267FSB.
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Mar 8, 2006, 07:44 AM
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DriverHeaven Extreme Member
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Hmmm and if it runs on low power without much heat, hell my next PC is ready 
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Mar 8, 2006, 07:51 AM
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Xtreme
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Originally Posted by Sandok
Hmmm and if it runs on low power without much heat, hell my next PC is ready 
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40% less power consumption than the current 955XE CPU does according to Intel's slideshow.
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Mar 8, 2006, 08:05 AM
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DriverHeaven Extreme Member
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Hehehe wow now THAT's impressive... 
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Mar 8, 2006, 08:12 AM
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Banned
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Europe
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If these is true maybe my next PC will be Intel-based again
Now the only thing remaining to see about AMD is their newer AM2 based sollutions
but i still think Intel with Conroe will be in general the winner in what is about performance\heat these time
Also Intel is planning to release QUAD CORE sollutions in early 2007
i wonder what AMD is planning at that time ?
Too many new generation proccessors are coming
Anyway it's nice to see Intel coming back with some really good sollutions these time 
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Mar 8, 2006, 08:52 AM
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Styleless Wonder
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Ottawa, Ontario
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I did
I'm very pleased at the results. It's wonderful to see Intel strike back with such promising results. I posted the original article in the "Submit News", but it hasn't moved from there yet. Oh well. 2H of 2006 looks nice for Intel. Like I've said, if they keep the target power consumption and thermal output (sprinkle a little bit of adequate pricing) Intel will do wonderfully.
AMD Socket AM2? It already fell my interest radar. 
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Mar 8, 2006, 10:00 AM
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DH's Dormant Dragon
Join Date: May 2002
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we shall see....
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Mar 8, 2006, 12:34 PM
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DriverHeaven Extreme Member
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Location: Ohio
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Intel supplied demos...ah I'll reserve my judgement. However, if Intel sticks with one socket, and prices these new cores well....
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Mar 8, 2006, 12:43 PM
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DriverHeaven Extreme Member
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True intel gave the systems but apparently nobody found any foulplay... 
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Mar 8, 2006, 12:50 PM
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DH SuperMod
Join Date: Jul 2004
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Maybe a bit overblown, but good none the less. I am very anxious to see what AMD has to offer, I think it's safe to bet they won't take this lying down. Those numbers are great though, and I wouldn't mind owning one, if the price is right. It's nice to see true innovation and progress in the field of CPU's again, especially from intel. They needed it, and the consumer's needed it. I can honestly say, I didn't expect my next system to be an intel one, but if this is any indication, I will be very happy if it goes that way.
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Mar 8, 2006, 12:52 PM
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DriverHeaven Extreme Member
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Did they break down the code for the demos? No...I'm not saying there is foul play here. I just prefer benching /w third party software.
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Mar 8, 2006, 03:38 PM
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ATi Freak!!
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Originally Posted by Necrosis
Did they break down the code for the demos? No...I'm not saying there is foul play here. I just prefer benching /w third party software.
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The Fear demo wasnt made by intel, pretty much everything else was. They arent as sneaky as Nvidia, so id say its fairplay. 
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Mar 8, 2006, 04:09 PM
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DriverHeaven Extreme Member
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Hmm still it's Intel doing the system setup. I'm sorry but I just find it hard to believe. If it was DH or even Anandtech with a system built from scratch I would not question the results. I've just learned over the years not to believe the hype until it can be proven by other than some one not making money off it.
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Mar 8, 2006, 04:13 PM
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Styleless Wonder
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Ottawa, Ontario
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Originally Posted by Necrosis
Hmm still it's Intel doing the system setup. I'm sorry but I just find it hard to believe. If it was DH or even Anandtech with a system built from scratch I would not question the results. I've just learned over the years not to believe the hype until it can be proven by other than some one not making money off it.
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If there were "optimizations" being used, I hope Intel shares them with the public.  I'm optimistic about this new processor. I honestly believed that Intel needed to go with the onboard memory controller to bridge the gap between themselves and AMD. I was sorely wrong!  (I still want them to incorporate one though, but only if they can stick to 1 socket unlike AMD...)
BTW, Hexus.net has some similar benches as well.
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Mar 8, 2006, 11:37 PM
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DriverHeaven Extreme Member
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Also keep in mind AMD will have somthing to counter, not to mention the X2 is faster
in some of those tests. Look at the encodeing tests..... Also socket M2 will Bring DDR2
support wich will in the end mean gains for AMD. Intels already useing DDR2.
Good to see intel finally improveing though, AMD is been the premuim processor
preferd by most gamers since like k6/2 and the 1st slot thunderbirds.
If you guys are looking for anything to poke at intels got a meant to be played
optuized for intel CPUs thing going on.
I'm going to be skeptical untill the reviews come out.... I'd be looking at the price $$$
and the power and heat...
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Mar 9, 2006, 01:39 AM
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DriverHeaven Senior Member
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Mar 9, 2006, 02:23 AM
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Has a JOB..
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I with Judas, I'll wait to see what happens.
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Mar 9, 2006, 03:34 AM
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Hezbollah supporter
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Intel has worked hard for some time to divert attention from their existing product line. With that said it's nice to finally see any kind of numbers indicating that they will indeed be able to compete in 2007.
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Mar 9, 2006, 05:17 PM
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Styleless Wonder
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Location: Ottawa, Ontario
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Originally Posted by Just Learnin'
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AnandTech updated their benchmarks which addressed issues Mr. Sood brought up.. 
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Mar 9, 2006, 05:30 PM
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Burned
Join Date: May 2002
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i think the figures are great. however I really do have issues with sites posting benchmarks ran on equipment SET UP by a particular company in a specifically controlled environment. This is not how you run articles, reviews or anything based on fact to be presented to the public.
Right now im filing this under the "interesting and possibly impressive" drawer ...
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Mar 9, 2006, 05:39 PM
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Styleless Wonder
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Location: Ottawa, Ontario
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Originally Posted by Zardon
i think the figures are great. however I really do have issues with sites posting benchmarks ran on equipment SET UP by a particular company in a specifically controlled environment. This is not how you run articles, reviews or anything based on fact to be presented to the public.
Right now im filing this under the "interesting and possibly impressive" drawer ...
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I think it gives us a good preview (which is what AnandTech and Hexus have labeled their articles as; previews) into what we should be expecting. The only people who should be worried is Intel who will lose credibility if the end product is way off compared to what we have seen.
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Mar 9, 2006, 05:53 PM
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Burned
Join Date: May 2002
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Originally Posted by No_Style
I think it gives us a good preview (which is what AnandTech and Hexus have labeled their articles as; previews) into what we should be expecting. The only people who should be worried is Intel who will lose credibility if the end product is way off compared to what we have seen.
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I dont even think its a good preview to be perfectly honest and I would turn it down if it was offered to us (and yes companies have in the past offered the same), the only way I would publish figures like this on DH is if we received all the hardware and built it from scratch ourselves and ran the tests ourselves. You simply cannot run benchmarks or gain figures in a "company" controlled environment.
I find this almost as bad as the hardware analysis scenario of allowing an AIB to run "benchmarks" then report the findings down the phone or via email. you have no control over the build, the software, the setup, any optimisations and are basically just jotting down what the company have set up. You are actually much wiser just publishing press releases via email.
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Mar 9, 2006, 06:03 PM
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Demonic
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