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3538j released

hello

ok, finally, here it is 3538j!

please review Project Status for details on some of the features to be expected
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changes: a lot of, I got lost in the change log

- fixed some kX add-on-related bugs
- added support for a2zsnotebook (note: recording is only available in ASIO mode)
- should fix sb22x rear speakers issue
- a2value is expected to work in most modes (in/out assignment to be verified)
- midi CH10 issue fixed
- updated most plugins and effects

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full changelog: (compared to 3537(!))
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Re-arranged kX Distributions<br>
Removed Win98 support<br>
kX Manager code completely re-written<br>
Added initial support for 6.1 and 7.1 speaker-sets<br>
Fixed bug with 'kxctrl -shw 19' option<br>
Added an option for AC97.2 input (<b>on the AC97 mixer page</b>)<br>
Added support for Audigy2 Zs Notebook<br>
Added '24/96 Router' for P16V hardware mixer (Audigy2 only)<br>
Added 'kX Console' menu item<br>
Added support for multiple ASIO drivers<br>
Improved SoundFont attack issue<br>
Improved kX DSP connect/disconnect features (hold 'Alt' button for legacy behaviour)<br>
Plugin window position is now saved and restored automatically with the settings<br>
Fixed bug with HpSp plugin (invalid channel assignment)<br>
Improved Speaker Test applet<br>
Changed the default routing for ASIO recording (kX In0/1 is now equal to WinMM Rec path)<br>
Improved support for hidden kX DSP effects<br>
Improved Power Management / Hibernation support<br>
Polish, German, Spanish, Chinese and Danish translations updated<br>
Turkish translation added<br>
Fixed bug with MX6 mixer automation support<br>
Changed default recording level for Wave/Synth sources (<b>'what you hear' is now OFF by default</b>)<br>
kX ASIO driver re-written to support 24/96 and other formats (Audigy2 only) (EXPERIMENTAL, not yet functional)<br>
Added buttons to copy Hardware Configuration / IO Status to clipboard<br>
Improved 24-bit and 32-bit format support (Audigy2)<br>
Added custom SoundFont manager (<b>sfman32.dll</b>)<br>
Added custom VSTi-based SoundFont manager<br>
Added hack to fix Cubase SX patch names issue<br>
Fixed minor bug in Dane disassembler<br>
Added support for WinRar3-archived skins<br>
Added option to minimize / restore kX DSP objects<br>
Added option to disable content redraw while dragging kX Manager windows<br>
Fixed some CLReverb4-related bugs<br>
Crossover, BoobleGum, Vibrato effects added<br>
Removed RemoteIR acceleration<br>
Fixed several SB22x-related issues<br>
Improved SRC DSP effect<br>
Initial support for Audigy2 Value added<br>
Fixed incorrect translation (8-point surround)<br>
kX Tray icon should be visible after Explorer crashes<br>
ASIO Control panel improved<br>
Added CD-SPDIF AC-3 decoding support<br>
Improved DSP-P16v resampling quality (i2s output, analog, audigy1/2)<br>
New DSP Effects added (newer Dynamica, ADC, Mixy etc.)<br>

Initial GSIF2 support (without recording and/or MIDI-In/Out)<br>
Fixed issue with invalid icons in Speaker Test applet<br>
Fixed issue with Audigy2 AC-3 passthru for certain decoder models<br>
Added additinal ASIO performance tweaks for SMP/HT machines (up to 1ms latency!)<br>
Fixed issues with ASIO control panel not saving changes<br>
ASIO sync code moved to kernel level<br>
Improved 'Driver Compatibility' window<br>
Changed default peak meter mode<br>
Fixed issue when renaming plugins (spaces)<br>
Fixed issue with kX Mixer handling multiple Surrounder instances incorrectly<br>
Improved SoundFont support for looped samples<br>

Fixed bug with invalid AllNoteOff/AllSoundsOff message handling<br>
Added sync method selection for kX ASIO control panel<br>
Added 'default' button for ASIO control panel<br>

Fixed brightness MIDI controller<br>
Added option to disable UART routing to kX Control device ('driver compatibility')<br>
Added support for dynamic drum channel assignment (<i>kxctrl -shw 21 value</i>)<br>
Several translations updated (Chinese, Polish etc.)<br>

<b>kX API/kX SDK:</b><br>
Added support for constant registers (Dane)<br>
Added support for kX Plugin Manager and kX Manager Add-ons<br>
Added support for p16v per-channel volumes<br>
Added access for kernel-level ASIO timers<br>
Added support for 'RAW' midi events in kX Automation<br>
kX SDK License Agreement has been updated to Revision 4<br>
kX API revised -- legacy plugins are no longer supported<br>
Added support for HWND extraction for iKXPluginGUI<br>
Added support for IKX_CLOSE_AND_REOPEN notification<br>
note to kX API Developers: include 'kxcompat.h' file for your legacy code<br>
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known issues:

- a2zsnb might produce noise / clicks / 'beep instead of playback' (depending on PCMCIA controller currently in use)
- a lot of untested code introduced. bugs are expected
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reporting bugs:

- please check if the bug is 3538-specific, 3538xx-specific etc.
- provide technical information if possible
- if you have found a bug, go to 'bug reports' forum, start a new thread with complete description of the issue, and post a link to this thread in 'always-on-top' topic '3538j bug reports'
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to kX Project programmers/translators/supporters:

- I plan to include with 3538k ac-3 encoder (redocneXk) (as an add-on)
- UFX will probably not be compatible and will require re-compilation
- there are some SDK-related changes expected
- if you find the code bundled with the SDK outdated, please drop me AN E-MAIL (I don't read the forums often, so contacting me via PM etc. is useless)
- feel free to send me your new/updated effects/skins/translations etc.
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installation:
- make sure to remove 3538xxx releases
- OR: make sure to reset global settings and device settings right after installation
(otherwise system state is undefined)
- if upgrading from 3537, it should be ok, but resetting your configuration is preferred due to necessary microcode updates

ok, pff...
anyway, congratulations, guys, newer version is finally out -- as one distribution (there will be NO 'update' package due to compatibility issues with any pre-3538j releases)

here's the link:
1. http://download.kxproject.lugosoft.c...538j-full_.exe
2. http://www.driverheavendownloads.net...3538j-full.exe

(right click, save as... -- otherwise it might open as plain text due to hosting issue!)
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have fun and good luck!

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UPD:
thanks for reporting -- I will remove some of the messages from this thread

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Old Jan 31, 2006, 07:48 PM   #2
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some details for the developers:
I'm not yet sure about the future compiler / driver environment. I will try to share my thoughts on this topic later. this is related to MSVC6, .NET/MFC7.x, opensource compilers and so on...
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by the way, note that kX Control no longer mirrors UART data, that's why one may need to go to "driver compatibility" window to enable full RemoteIR support
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Old Jan 31, 2006, 09:23 PM   #3
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Old Jan 31, 2006, 09:27 PM   #4
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Cool! Right On Scedule!

Thanks Eugene.

I will be glad when 3538 is final, so Max M. can release the UFX package, and I hope kX development/improvement doesnt slow or die out before 3538 final is out!

I will not argue in this thread. Going to install and check out this new release now.
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Hmm my installation hangs after i press (Continue Anyway) any idea why?


EDIT: Oh well i just installed it manualy :P

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So far so good.
My Sb022x card still works (rear channels, etc).
I confirmed that the midi drums are working with the kX synths.
The only issue I have noticed thus far is that the ProFx plugins are still the old ones.
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Thanks!

Now that the Chinese language has been eventually merged into the released version, It seems that the installation file simply does license display, component selection, and file extraction, thus I am going to make a repacked translated Chinese version of the installation file too, and put it onto www.hanzify.org (a site that provides many Chinese localized software downloading). However, the interface of each DSP effects/plug-ins would not be translated due to the situation that the strings are neither in the language file nor the resource section of the kxl file and hacking into the kxl file would be very dangerous and time-consuming.
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The only issue I have noticed thus far is that the ProFx plugins are still the old ones.
I was gonna say the same about ADC, the user interface is still unreadable.

It may be just in my mind, but it seems audio is clearer, but subwoofer is weaker or maybe better quality as in tight bass, so it seems like weaker bass.

Anyway, 3538j is staying installed.

Now, back to the ProFX matter. It's a bummer cause I'm sure LeMury doesnt want to keep releasing ProFX releases for every driver release. That's one of the reasons I say "come on 3538 final!!!!!"
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Nice work on this one. With 3538i my Audigy 2 Platinum didn't even work at all. Just some nasty noise came out. Everything seems to be in order with this one. It's sad a company the size of Cr**tive can't make drivers as good as these. Well, not really. they probably could if they cared. Thanks for making me not have to buy a different soundcard.
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Ill interject that my ASIO performance improved from h/i to j - from 5.33 ms possible to 2.67ms - no clicks / pops.

Same (non-optimized - HT P4) system & same soft synth.

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Additionally - SPDIF (front panel) sounds better as well, lower volume, but seems clearer now. - previously with 3538H , excessive input level would cause a 'squeal' - not so in 3538J now.


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ProFX: I haven't received updated sources from LeMury yet

UFX: I don't have the sources at all. please ask Max either to recompile or to forward his sources to me

"Sb022x card still works (rear channels, etc). " -- does this mean it no longer requires any custom DSP microcode / tweaks / etc? Is it stable if you enter standby/hibernate?

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"Sb022x card still works (rear channels, etc). " -- does this mean it no longer requires any custom DSP microcode / tweaks / etc? Is it stable if you enter standby/hibernate?
My SB022x card did work with 3538i (not 3538h and previous) without needing any of the extra stuff, so we willl have to wait for other SB022x users (that had problems with 3538i) to try 3538j and report back.

As for standby / hibernation problems, I have not tested that, as I personally do not use those power management features.
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From this version on, the Aux In doesn't have the noise problem anymore! (Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro)
Recording from my hardware synth is feasible now, thanks Eugene!
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Hi Eugene

Nice to see you again

I'm really happy you found the time to continue the project
It's a big day

Because Emu10Kx is not dead and so KX project still lives !

Thank you so much

I'm gonna have a look to the french translation update
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I did some basic testing with standy and hibernation and did not have any problems (I even tried both while in the middle of playing an .mp3 and it seemed to be fine). It would probably be better to hear from other SB022x users, that use these features more often, but I did not have any problems thus far.
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Maybe seperate threads of 'requested test' could be 'stickied' and users could report their findings..???
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Another great release Eugene
Now SB0240 finally works again,great

But there are some bugs:

- When "Show Window Content While Dragging" is disabled,the right-click context menu in the DSP doesn't work.Same as with 3538i

- The Speaker settings after installation of 3538j are set to 7.1 Home Theater(after a first-time install on a fresh XP),with 3538h/i they were correctly set to 5.1 surround.

But 3538j also sets it to stereo speakers instead of 5.1 surround if you previously uninstall an older driver (3538h/i),even when cleaning everything with Driver Cleaner Pro before install.

- AC97 source is set to Stereo Mix again...should be Line In by default.

- The "new" Plugins included are very old...

other than that,they work great,just like 3538i with the 3538h kx.sys

Questions:

1. Is it possible to make the kX drivers to not depend on DEBUG .dlls but use standard dlls included in Windows XP?
Why are debug libs needed?

2. Can you post a list of all files other than those installed in the kX Audio Driver folder in the Program Files folder,because only half of the files which are installed go there or do you know of any program that can extract Nullsoft PIMP/NSIS installers so I can see it for myself?
What files do those CodeMax libs consist of? Are they needed for functionality of the base driver,or just for the kX Mixer?
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There does still appear to be some issues with SB022x models (models with STAC9758 anyway) regarding the digital outputs.

I posted info about this in the 'sb22x - no rear and/or center/lfe output' thread (beginning with post #92).

Sorry I did not test this sooner, but I do not have a digital speaker setup (or receiver), and did not think of testing this using 'CD_SPDIF In' previously.

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- When "Show Window Content While Dragging" is disabled,the right-click context menu in the DSP doesn't work.Same as with 3538i
W2000 - ok. But here is another GUI-related problem in some dialogs - 'COMBO BOX' items can't be expanded (opened). I.e. one in Settings->Synth Compatibility. As far as I know this is W2K related problem, but it can be fixed easily editing resources.

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1. Is it possible to make the kX drivers to not depend on DEBUG .dlls but use standard dlls included in Windows XP?
Why are debug libs needed?
I'm completely agree! Anyway, debug info is stripped from binaries, so it's worthless to provide theese libraries, they are slower and consumes memory for no purpose. I hope, Eugene will release clean build (3538final).

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2. Can you post a list of all files other than those installed in the kX Audio Driver folder in the Program Files folder,because only half of the files which are installed go there or do you know of any program that can extract Nullsoft PIMP/NSIS installers so I can see it for myself?
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Hi all
Will this new release of kx work with the X-fi Xtreme Music soundcard?
Well...I hope so
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X-Fi are NOT compatable - nor ever will be

Look at the 'project status' thread.
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I have Audigy 2, SB0244 10k2 [b400], Codec name: SigmaTel STAC9721/23. Is my card comatible with this new versions kx drivers ?
and is my card to old ?
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I have Audigy 2, SB0244 10k2 [b400], Codec name: SigmaTel STAC9721/23. Is my card comatible with this new versions kx drivers ?
and is my card to old ?
Your card should be compatible.
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thanks for that long-awaited update.. finally!

i installed this version over 3537 stable version.. once restarted the "Speaker Setup" has 6.1 7.1 etc etc options.. which I didn't have before with 3537..but now those options have gone... i tried to reinstall again but it is the same.. any idea what's wrong? i did uninstall completely 3537 and restart PC and install this new version...
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I tested 3538j with audigy 2 zs nb (notebook):

- the pcmcia card is recognized of the installtion tool;
- but the System freezes while installing;
- after rebooting drivers seem to be installed, but I get only (a clear, good quality) output on the optical/phones out, not on the multi-jack;

any1 experieced something similar and has a fix for that?

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thanks for that long-awaited update.. finally!

i installed this version over 3537 stable version.. once restarted the "Speaker Setup" has 6.1 7.1 etc etc options.. which I didn't have before with 3537..but now those options have gone... i tried to reinstall again but it is the same.. any idea what's wrong? i did uninstall completely 3537 and restart PC and install this new version...
Which sound card do you have?

I believe those options are only shown for Audigy 2 cards (which I do not have, so I do not see them.).

Also, I think they are only available in 'Surrounder+' and not 'Surrounder'.
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im using SB Audigy 2ZS.. with 3538i i was able to get that option
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Well I cannot confirm it, as I do not have an A2 card, but someone else should be able to do so, in which case, you should probably post it in the 3538j Bug thread.
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Well I cannot confirm it, as I do not have an A2 card, but someone else should be able to do so, in which case, you should probably post it in the 3538j Bug thread.
Confirmed - ITS NOT A BUG for me -

@didymus: Do you see an option of 'HPh lt' & 'HPh' -in your surrounder speaker mode drop down?

If not - it seems to be ONLY 'SURROUNDER' and NOT 'SURROUNDER+'.
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