redocneXk released - Realtime 5.1 ac3 Encoder

Tril · Dec 23, 2005, 02:49 PM

Probably. Sorry if I can't be more specific. It's all untested.

You can use any of the exe with any of the dll.

Yakuza696 · Dec 23, 2005, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tril

Probably. Sorry if I can't be more specific. It's all untested.

You can use any of the exe with any of the dll.

Unfortunatly SSE2 and SS3 dlls are causing a crash of the program when i start it.

Tril · Dec 23, 2005, 04:39 PM

It look like all the optimized dlls don't work. I'll have radiocolonel.it remove them all.

If a user succeeds at making an optimized compilation of avcodec.dll that uses SSE, SSE2 or SSE3, I would like this user to share with us how he did it.

radiv · Dec 23, 2005, 06:16 PM

Is it possible to integate this feature into the sounddriver? And make a switch in the master mixer?

I'm currently writing a Norwegian guide how to use your files at vidiware.com. May I host the files on my website?

Tril · Dec 23, 2005, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radiv

Is it possible to integate this feature into the sounddriver? And make a switch in the master mixer?

No. At least, not right now. If it was done, it would be by Eugene. I don't mind sharing my code with him but he is a very busy person so it would take months (or years

) if we asked him to do it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by radiv

I'm currently writing a Norwegian guide how to use your files at vidiware.com. May I host the files on my website?

You can host the file redocneXk_v1.01.zip but don't host the other files. They don't work and I'll remove them shortly.

Maddogg6 · Dec 23, 2005, 08:22 PM

@Tril

Even tho I cant fully test if sound comes out..

I tested ALL combinations of .EXE's and .DLL's (except SSE3) (on P4 630 1GB DDR2 WinXP SP2)
They all crashed on me (p.s. I didnt reboot after each crash tho - according to billy, this shouldnt matter... har har.. eh hem)

V1.0.0 did work v1.0.1 does not for me.

Russ · Dec 23, 2005, 08:58 PM

@Maddogg6
v1.0.1 came with 1 .dll and 3 .exe's. Which .exe did you try with v1.0.1?
Only the SSE2 .exe gave me problems and my processor does not support SSE2, so...

Maddogg6 · Dec 23, 2005, 08:58 PM

Confirmed - 1.0.1 does not work for me in any combination.

It crashes - and gives a report, tells me its saving crash data in a text file - but text file doe not exist and I cant copy-paste from the report either. sorry

Maddogg6 · Dec 23, 2005, 08:59 PM

I tried all exe's in v1.0.1

Tril · Dec 23, 2005, 10:29 PM

Maddogg6, I never got a crash like that myself and there is not much difference between the two versions. I don't see what could be the culprit.

You are also the first person to report that this version crashed with the basic exe and dll.

Can you run cpuz and tell me what instructions your cpu supports? Does it support MMX?

Maddogg6 · Dec 23, 2005, 11:20 PM

I just ran CPUZ - it says my (PIV 630 'Prescott') supports MMX/SSE/SSE2/SSE3/EM64T

Maddogg6 · Dec 23, 2005, 11:23 PM

I did figure out how to capture the dump from the crash.

Code:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-16"?>
<DATABASE>
<EXE NAME="redocneXk.exe" FILTER="GRABMI_FILTER_PRIVACY">
	<MATCHING_FILE NAME="avcodec.dll" SIZE="2858726" CHECKSUM="0x58432169" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x2C9422" LINKER_VERSION="0x10000" LINK_DATE="11/21/2005 17:01:13" UPTO_LINK_DATE="11/21/2005 17:01:13" />
	<MATCHING_FILE NAME="redocneXk.exe" SIZE="114688" CHECKSUM="0x194642C6" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0" LINKER_VERSION="0x0" LINK_DATE="11/29/2005 13:00:54" UPTO_LINK_DATE="11/29/2005 13:00:54" />
	<MATCHING_FILE NAME="redocneXk_SSE.exe" SIZE="114688" CHECKSUM="0x194642C6" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0" LINKER_VERSION="0x0" LINK_DATE="11/29/2005 13:01:42" UPTO_LINK_DATE="11/29/2005 13:01:42" />
	<MATCHING_FILE NAME="redocneXk_SSE2.exe" SIZE="114688" CHECKSUM="0xB7D0C733" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0" LINKER_VERSION="0x0" LINK_DATE="11/29/2005 13:02:16" UPTO_LINK_DATE="11/29/2005 13:02:16" />
</EXE>
<EXE NAME="kernel32.dll" FILTER="GRABMI_FILTER_THISFILEONLY">
	<MATCHING_FILE NAME="kernel32.dll" SIZE="983552" CHECKSUM="0x4CE79457" BIN_FILE_VERSION="5.1.2600.2180" BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="5.1.2600.2180" PRODUCT_VERSION="5.1.2600.2180" FILE_DESCRIPTION="Windows NT BASE API Client DLL" COMPANY_NAME="Microsoft Corporation" PRODUCT_NAME="Microsoft® Windows® Operating System" FILE_VERSION="5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)" ORIGINAL_FILENAME="kernel32" INTERNAL_NAME="kernel32" LEGAL_COPYRIGHT="© Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved." VERFILEDATEHI="0x0" VERFILEDATELO="0x0" VERFILEOS="0x40004" VERFILETYPE="0x2" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0xFF848" LINKER_VERSION="0x50001" UPTO_BIN_FILE_VERSION="5.1.2600.2180" UPTO_BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="5.1.2600.2180" LINK_DATE="08/04/2004 07:56:36" UPTO_LINK_DATE="08/04/2004 07:56:36" VER_LANGUAGE="English (United States) [0x409]" />
</EXE>
</DATABASE>

Maybe that will help.

Maddogg6 · Dec 23, 2005, 11:25 PM

DOH - I forgot to set correct device.... hold on Ill test more

Maddogg6 · Dec 23, 2005, 11:36 PM

Ok - ALL exes work - bit only with original dll that came with V1.0.1

Sorry if I made you panic.... (I kept running exe rather than bat file I made...)

again - all I can test is if it crashes or not....

Russ · Dec 23, 2005, 11:38 PM

Tril, which CPU/Architecture did you choose to optimize for?

Tril · Dec 23, 2005, 11:52 PM

I don't remember exactly. For the cpu, it's generic.

I think that MMX was disabled in 1.00 because I was receiving a compilation error when it was activated. I later found out how to enable it without getting an error so it was enabled in 1.01. I'm not sure of this. Maybe this was all before 1.00 when I was testing it myself.
I can recompile 1.01 without MMX and ask Maddogg6 to test it but I doubt that the problem is there.

Russ · Dec 23, 2005, 11:59 PM

No, I mean the .dll's. Maddogg6 got it working, so that is not an issue any more. I just thought it would be good to know if I happen to run across any information about it (to help and determine if it may be related, etc). Did you use i686 or something else? and BTW: Did you change any of the compiler options (other than specific SSE optimizations) with the new .dll's (as opposed to the .dll with version 1.0.1)?

Maddogg6 · Dec 24, 2005, 12:01 AM

I will gladly test anything you'd like...

I can post a crash dump if you'd like...

Edit: Yes - All V1.0.1 EXE's work fine with original dll only. All others crash.

Russ · Dec 24, 2005, 12:19 AM

BTW: You might want to take a look at the CPUID sample which shows how to detect processor support for MMX, SSE, SSE2, and 3DNow. Looks pretty simple, and you could encorporate such code in your program (if you wanted to), so that instead of crashing, it says something like "Sorry this version requires SSE2 processor support" and exits if the feature is not detected, etc. If you search the internet you could probably find the info necessary to add detection of other CPU features as well. Just a thought.

Tril · Dec 24, 2005, 01:59 AM

Maddogg6 got it working. He simply forgot to use the -d switch to select the kX driver.

Detecting the cpu type is not necessary. The three exe (normal, SSE, SSE2) of 1.01 give the same performance so in the next version (if there is one), only the normal exe will be in it. The optimized dlls (SSE, SSE2, SSE3) don't work.

Davers · Dec 29, 2005, 11:39 PM

Hi everyone! This app seems to be working great; the receiver is showing the dolby logo, and I can hear from the front left, right, and center, but the rear left and right also come from the front.

Any ideas?

No errors; running a Creative Audigy 2 ZS PCMCIA card

Tril · Dec 30, 2005, 12:31 AM

Davers, I suppose you connected Surrounder to asio on epilog. Take a look at the settings of Surrounder. Speaker Mode should be on 5.1 (not 2.1 with Surround on). I think that's your problem.

Davers · Dec 30, 2005, 10:57 AM

Surrounder?

Tril · Dec 30, 2005, 03:23 PM

Look at the picture. Surrounder is connected to epilog.
DSP

Davers · Dec 30, 2005, 04:38 PM

ah I see; I didnt have the Kx audio drivers installed at all; but now I have downloaded both v3537 and v3538i, and neither will install the driver correctly, so I can't access the DSP... if you're interested, in 3538i it installs fine until it actually tries to install the driver and completely freezes the computer requiring a hard reset... any ideas? Or do I even need to install it?

Tril · Dec 30, 2005, 05:18 PM

You need to install the kX drivers because you need to modify the DSP to route the 6 channels to asio. The DSP is the digital signal processor on the soundcard.

It could maybe work without the kX drivers if the other drivers route all the 6 channels to 6 asio inputs. You can't modify the DSP ditrectly with drivers other than kX. You have to use the DSP they give you. I suppose that when you change options in the other drivers, it changes the DSP in some way only known precisely by the people who made the card. It might or might not be possible to use it with other drivers.

What's your sound card model?

Davers · Dec 30, 2005, 06:44 PM

Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Notebook (PCMCIA)

driver installation crashes when installing kxasio.dll

Tril · Dec 30, 2005, 07:07 PM

This card is not supported by the drivers and it will not be in 3538 final. It may never be supported. See here : kX Project Status

Davers · Dec 30, 2005, 07:09 PM

Noooooo T_T

jackmcdowell · Dec 31, 2005, 08:54 PM

This should work with the Sound Blaster Live 5.1 version which has the SPdif output right?

Dec 24, 2005, 12:01 AM	#108
Maddogg6 Tail Razer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bernyurass, AZ - USA Posts: 4,027 Rep Power: 36	I will gladly test anything you'd like... I can post a crash dump if you'd like... Edit: Yes - All V1.0.1 EXE's work fine with original dll only. All others crash. Last edited by Maddogg6; Dec 24, 2005 at 12:06 AM.

Dec 23, 2005, 02:49 PM	#91
Tril S-3D enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,561 Rep Power: 39 System Specs	Probably. Sorry if I can't be more specific. It's all untested. You can use any of the exe with any of the dll.

Dec 23, 2005, 04:39 PM	#93
Tril S-3D enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,561 Rep Power: 39 System Specs	It look like all the optimized dlls don't work. I'll have radiocolonel.it remove them all. If a user succeeds at making an optimized compilation of avcodec.dll that uses SSE, SSE2 or SSE3, I would like this user to share with us how he did it.

Dec 23, 2005, 06:16 PM	#94
radiv DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	Is it possible to integate this feature into the sounddriver? And make a switch in the master mixer? I'm currently writing a Norwegian guide how to use your files at vidiware.com. May I host the files on my website?

Dec 23, 2005, 08:22 PM	#96
Maddogg6 Tail Razer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bernyurass, AZ - USA Posts: 4,027 Rep Power: 36	@Tril Even tho I cant fully test if sound comes out.. I tested ALL combinations of .EXE's and .DLL's (except SSE3) (on P4 630 1GB DDR2 WinXP SP2) They all crashed on me (p.s. I didnt reboot after each crash tho - according to billy, this shouldnt matter... har har.. eh hem) V1.0.0 did work v1.0.1 does not for me.

Dec 23, 2005, 08:58 PM	#97
Russ DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,836 Rep Power: 41	@Maddogg6 v1.0.1 came with 1 .dll and 3 .exe's. Which .exe did you try with v1.0.1? Only the SSE2 .exe gave me problems and my processor does not support SSE2, so...

Dec 23, 2005, 08:59 PM	#99
Maddogg6 Tail Razer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bernyurass, AZ - USA Posts: 4,027 Rep Power: 36	I tried all exe's in v1.0.1

Dec 23, 2005, 10:29 PM	#100
Tril S-3D enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,561 Rep Power: 39 System Specs	Maddogg6, I never got a crash like that myself and there is not much difference between the two versions. I don't see what could be the culprit. You are also the first person to report that this version crashed with the basic exe and dll. Can you run cpuz and tell me what instructions your cpu supports? Does it support MMX?

Dec 23, 2005, 11:20 PM	#101
Maddogg6 Tail Razer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bernyurass, AZ - USA Posts: 4,027 Rep Power: 36	I just ran CPUZ - it says my (PIV 630 'Prescott') supports MMX/SSE/SSE2/SSE3/EM64T

Dec 23, 2005, 11:25 PM	#103
Maddogg6 Tail Razer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bernyurass, AZ - USA Posts: 4,027 Rep Power: 36	DOH - I forgot to set correct device.... hold on Ill test more

Dec 23, 2005, 11:36 PM	#104
Maddogg6 Tail Razer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bernyurass, AZ - USA Posts: 4,027 Rep Power: 36	Ok - ALL exes work - bit only with original dll that came with V1.0.1 Sorry if I made you panic.... (I kept running exe rather than bat file I made...) again - all I can test is if it crashes or not....

Dec 23, 2005, 11:38 PM	#105
Russ DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,836 Rep Power: 41	Tril, which CPU/Architecture did you choose to optimize for?

Dec 23, 2005, 11:52 PM	#106
Tril S-3D enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,561 Rep Power: 39 System Specs	I don't remember exactly. For the cpu, it's generic. I think that MMX was disabled in 1.00 because I was receiving a compilation error when it was activated. I later found out how to enable it without getting an error so it was enabled in 1.01. I'm not sure of this. Maybe this was all before 1.00 when I was testing it myself. I can recompile 1.01 without MMX and ask Maddogg6 to test it but I doubt that the problem is there.

Dec 23, 2005, 11:59 PM	#107
Russ DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,836 Rep Power: 41	No, I mean the .dll's. Maddogg6 got it working, so that is not an issue any more. I just thought it would be good to know if I happen to run across any information about it (to help and determine if it may be related, etc). Did you use i686 or something else? and BTW: Did you change any of the compiler options (other than specific SSE optimizations) with the new .dll's (as opposed to the .dll with version 1.0.1)?

Dec 24, 2005, 12:19 AM	#109
Russ DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,836 Rep Power: 41	BTW: You might want to take a look at the CPUID sample which shows how to detect processor support for MMX, SSE, SSE2, and 3DNow. Looks pretty simple, and you could encorporate such code in your program (if you wanted to), so that instead of crashing, it says something like "Sorry this version requires SSE2 processor support" and exits if the feature is not detected, etc. If you search the internet you could probably find the info necessary to add detection of other CPU features as well. Just a thought.

Dec 24, 2005, 01:59 AM	#110
Tril S-3D enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,561 Rep Power: 39 System Specs	Maddogg6 got it working. He simply forgot to use the -d switch to select the kX driver. Detecting the cpu type is not necessary. The three exe (normal, SSE, SSE2) of 1.01 give the same performance so in the next version (if there is one), only the normal exe will be in it. The optimized dlls (SSE, SSE2, SSE3) don't work.

Dec 29, 2005, 11:39 PM	#111
Davers DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	Hi everyone! This app seems to be working great; the receiver is showing the dolby logo, and I can hear from the front left, right, and center, but the rear left and right also come from the front. Any ideas? No errors; running a Creative Audigy 2 ZS PCMCIA card

Dec 30, 2005, 12:31 AM	#112
Tril S-3D enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,561 Rep Power: 39 System Specs	Davers, I suppose you connected Surrounder to asio on epilog. Take a look at the settings of Surrounder. Speaker Mode should be on 5.1 (not 2.1 with Surround on). I think that's your problem.

Dec 30, 2005, 10:57 AM	#113
Davers DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	Surrounder?

Dec 30, 2005, 03:23 PM	#114
Tril S-3D enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,561 Rep Power: 39 System Specs	Look at the picture. Surrounder is connected to epilog. DSP

Dec 30, 2005, 04:38 PM	#115
Davers DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	ah I see; I didnt have the Kx audio drivers installed at all; but now I have downloaded both v3537 and v3538i, and neither will install the driver correctly, so I can't access the DSP... if you're interested, in 3538i it installs fine until it actually tries to install the driver and completely freezes the computer requiring a hard reset... any ideas? Or do I even need to install it?

Dec 30, 2005, 05:18 PM	#116
Tril S-3D enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,561 Rep Power: 39 System Specs	You need to install the kX drivers because you need to modify the DSP to route the 6 channels to asio. The DSP is the digital signal processor on the soundcard. It could maybe work without the kX drivers if the other drivers route all the 6 channels to 6 asio inputs. You can't modify the DSP ditrectly with drivers other than kX. You have to use the DSP they give you. I suppose that when you change options in the other drivers, it changes the DSP in some way only known precisely by the people who made the card. It might or might not be possible to use it with other drivers. What's your sound card model?

Dec 30, 2005, 06:44 PM	#117
Davers DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Notebook (PCMCIA) driver installation crashes when installing kxasio.dll

Dec 30, 2005, 07:07 PM	#118
Tril S-3D enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,561 Rep Power: 39 System Specs	This card is not supported by the drivers and it will not be in 3538 final. It may never be supported. See here : kX Project Status

Dec 30, 2005, 07:09 PM	#119
Davers DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	Noooooo T_T

Dec 31, 2005, 08:54 PM	#120
jackmcdowell DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	This should work with the Sound Blaster Live 5.1 version which has the SPdif output right?