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Mar 28, 2005, 03:43 PM
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DriverHeaven Newbie
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Manchester, UK
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Mouse crash problems
Hi Folks
Has anyone got any suggestions? I started using KX drivers for my Audigy 2 Platinum Ex because my PC kept crashing in Cubase 5.1 but it hasn't helped: I've also (deep breath) upgraded the PS, bought new RAM, converted from Windows 98 SE to XP, shut down all unnecessary services in XP, disabled stuff I don't need like parallel ports, modem and ethernet connection, and sworn a lot. But it still crashes really regularly, seemingly when I've done a lot of mouse movements - editing MIDI, in Wavelab or even just clicking on the screen to move a parameter. I've spent a YEAR trying to get the system to work well enough to get more than 15 minutes work in before I have to reboot....any ideas? Please please please!!!!!
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Mar 28, 2005, 04:54 PM
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DriverHeaven Senior Member
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sounds like a faulty motherboard... or processor; you say that when you are clicking alot it crashes, could this be because you are using the processor more when you are clicking alot (the clicking itself doesnt use hardly any processor but what you are clicking on may be) so, if you are using alot of cpu power and you are crashing it could also be a heat issue (your heatsync cant get rid of the heat fast enough) make sure no fans have burned out... thats all i can think of right now good luck!
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COMP: Dual Intel PIII 733 Mhz; GeForce 4 Ti 4600; 1.128 Gb RAM; SB0350 (Audigy 2 ZS Platnium)
STEREO(I UPGRADED):Crown Audio K1 and K2 amplifiers (4000 watts at .1% THD  ), JL 13w7 Subwoofer (6.5 CF) (2) 18" PR's, Klipsch SB-1's, some cement blocks for speaker stands...
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Mar 28, 2005, 04:55 PM
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DriverHeaven Senior Member
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or you could buy a new computer... (trade it in if still under warrenty)
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COMP: Dual Intel PIII 733 Mhz; GeForce 4 Ti 4600; 1.128 Gb RAM; SB0350 (Audigy 2 ZS Platnium)
STEREO(I UPGRADED):Crown Audio K1 and K2 amplifiers (4000 watts at .1% THD  ), JL 13w7 Subwoofer (6.5 CF) (2) 18" PR's, Klipsch SB-1's, some cement blocks for speaker stands...
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Mar 28, 2005, 05:15 PM
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DriverHeaven Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Montevideo, MN USA
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Try a different mouse if you haven't already. Otherwise, it sounds like, as Chester01 said, something is near death on with your computer.
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Mar 28, 2005, 05:42 PM
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DriverHeaven Newbie
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Thanks for the input fellas - advice from the land of the Prairie Home Companion always welcome - I have tried different mices so it ain't that - but I have thought about heat before. Recently fitted a second fan cos it was running pretty warm (65 C plus) after being on a while but it also seems to crash sometimes soon after switching on when its only 45 C or so. Still, the data could be wrong - I'm wondering if the heatsink I put on isn't big enough. That's the trouble - built it meself! Never again....... 
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Mar 28, 2005, 06:25 PM
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DriverHeaven Junior Member
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I know this problem, or at least a similar one. My old computer started to crash when I moved it to another apartment. I thought there were software conflicts, so I reinstalled OP, or - changed from W98 to W2000. The problem remained. I switched OP lots of times but the problem stayed.
I bought a new computer and for some reason kept the old one and when my gf wanted to use it some months later I warned her about the problem. She started it and since then it works perfectly and has been working for about one year.
I'm not saying you should give the computer to a girlfriend even though I can see no other logical reason for it to suddenly work again.
I'd go for a software conflict.
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PIII 1GHz, 512 MB RAM, SB Live! 5.1 Platinum, Cubase SX, ATI Radeon 9000, a good mood.
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Mar 29, 2005, 04:58 PM
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DriverHeaven Newbie
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Hmm....maybe its female hormones...nah. I have found two other possible problems. that's just it, there's always summat else to try....for one thing, i read elsewhere on the site that AMD CPUs don't like Radeon graphics cards (both of which I've got) and the combination is often unstable. Also, the specific way I get crashes sounds a lot like something fixed in XP SP2 to do with clicking on menus within programs causing crashes. But I still reckon it's heat like the guys said: having built the thing, its dawned on me i've recycled an old heatsink and its maybe not big enough for a more up to date CPU. D'oh........ 
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Mar 30, 2005, 04:30 AM
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DH's Latest Mac Convert
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Originally Posted by martin h
.for one thing, i read elsewhere on the site that AMD CPUs don't like Radeon graphics cards (both of which I've got) and the combination is often unstable.
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never heard of that before
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Mar 30, 2005, 03:42 PM
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DH's Latest Mac Convert
Join Date: Jun 2003
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mmm that post is a year old - there have been at least 12 driver updates then
and still, i have never seen such a thing posted by anyone else before… if you would like the opinion of some more experienced members post in either the tech discussion forum or radeon graphics cards forum here on DH
EDIT: i should add that i have a Radeon 9600se with an AMD Athlon XP
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Mar 31, 2005, 02:18 AM
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DriverHeaven Newbie
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OK thanks - and I'd better check for driver updates too from the sound of it.........
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