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Well, kinda selfexplanatory I guess.
http://members.home.nl/nahutec/kxtut...kxcubasesx.htm Post any questions, suggestion, remarks, errors here please. [color=silver]There are a lot of SX users around here, so getting[/color] [color=silver]a proper answer to your questions shouldn't be a problem.[/color] /LeMury Last edited by LeMury; Jun 21, 2005 at 02:47 AM. |
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Hi LeMury,
a very good guide for Cubase running with KxDrivers. Perhaps you should move the Reverb plugin in the DSP window to make it easier to see which pins it connects to in the MX6. Now it is difficult to see where they go. Another idea is to connect a monitor output for headphones. Sture |
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>>Perhaps you should move the Reverb plugin in the DSP window to make it
>>easier to see which pins it connects to in the MX6. [color=yellow]Yes you're right. Done.[/color] >>Another idea is to connect a monitor output for headphones. [color=yellow]Ok, but what signal would you like having to go to the HP?[/color] [color=yellow]The Main mx6 output, the Rec mx6 output, or straight after the Compressor? [/color] [color=yellow]/LeMury[/color] Last edited by LeMury; Sep 27, 2004 at 05:02 PM. |
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Aargh,.. I forgot to mention the kXi VSTi in the guide.
If I dont fix this soon please someone remind me to...! |
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Hi again LeMury,
In my case, I think that a mix of the Cubase Asio outputs and my input (Line Input which comes from an external mixer for microphones) with a possibility to add reverb to the input would be great! Thanks - Sture |
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[color=yellow]but Record it dry. Right?[/color] [color=yellow]If so, that's quite easy to accomplish with kX.[/color] [color=yellow]/LeMury[/color] |
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Exactly, I have been thinking about it, but never really got to do it. With your example above as a base - how would you implement that?
Thanks in advance! Sture |
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[color=yellow]I've done it quickly "out of my head", didn't' check it, but it should work fine.[/color] [color=yellow][/color] [color=yellow](and now I'm realy going to sleep.. . I'll check in later)[/color][color=yellow] [/color] [color=yellow]/LeMury[/color] |
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Thanks LeMury,
Excellent! That also explains the MX6 better to me! In my opinion these SRC's and the MX6 makes the KxProject a lot easier to use by doing all adjustments in the DSP window instead of using the 5 pages standard mixer. This makes it look a lot more like a normal studio setup using external hardware with patch cables! Thanks for all your help in this! Sture Last edited by Sture; Sep 27, 2004 at 11:47 AM. |
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Hello again LeMury,
perhaps you would like to double-check the connections (in the last picture of the updated "How to setup kX with Cubase SX" guide) you made between the Midi Synth FX Sends and the FM Mix and Stereo Chorus. As an idea perhaps you would consider to add a couple of lines of text about the function 'release of driver in background' in Cubase to be able to have both Cubase running and at the same time be able to see the Peak meter and make slider adjustments in the MX6 window. Or is there even a better way to do this that I am not aware of? Kind regards, Sture Last edited by Sture; Sep 28, 2004 at 08:36 AM. |
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>>perhaps you would like to double-check the connections (in the last picture
>>of the updated "How to setup kX with Cubase SX" guide) you made between >>the Midi Synth FX Sends and the FM Mix and Stereo Chorus. [color=yellow]Ok, I just did, but could you tell me what is the problem? (I may have overlooked something)[/color] >>As an idea perhaps you would consider to add a couple of lines of text >>about the function 'release of driver in background' in Cubase to be able to >>have both Cubase running and at the same time be able to see the Peak >>meter and make slider adjustments in the MX6 window. [color=yellow]Yes, but it's a Cubase feature (not related to kX in particulair) and also depends on personal factors.[/color] [color=yellow]During installation Cubase SX seems to analyze the system's speed/power and sets the 'release of driver in background' checkbox accordingly. That is;[/color] [color=yellow]For slow computers it's checked,[/color] [color=yellow]for fast computers it's unchecked.[/color] [color=yellow]Personaly I like unchecked, so cubase keeps playing while tweaking another app. like mx6 or whatever.[/color] [color=yellow]However, if someone does this on a slow computer, audio skips can occure easily.[/color] [color=yellow]/LeMury[/color] |
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Hello again LeMury,
sorry I was too quick and did not first see/understand that you used 2 FX Mix units. First one to mix with Reverb and second where the Chorus goes. About the 'Release ASIO driver in background', I must have made some other misstake, since I have a rather fast PC (2.8 GHz on a 800 MHz FSB), but still Cubase stopped playing when I bring up the MX6 window or the associated DSP window when using this setup yesterday. But, I will try again! Thanks again for your great support! This user guide is great! Sture |
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>>sorry I was too quick and did not first see/understand that you used 2 FX
>>Mix units. First one to mix with Reverb and second where the Chorus goes. [color=yellow]No problem. Btw; That setup is just an example.[/color] [color=yellow]There are so many ways to achieve the same. [/color] >>About the 'Release ASIO driver in background', I must have made some >>other misstake, since I have a rather fast PC (2.8 GHz on a 800 MHz FSB), >>but still Cubase stopped playing when I bring up the MX6 window or the >>associated DSP window when using this setup yesterday. [color=yellow]Having such 'fast' PC (same as mine btw) just uncheck it of course![/color] [color=yellow](I don't know why SX didn't do that automaticly in your case)[/color] [color=yellow]Well, no big deal, just uncheck 'Release ASIO driver in background'.. ![]() [/color] [color=yellow]/LeMury[/color] |
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When I do direct monitoring in Cubase SX2 with the full duplex set up (quick guide), I can hear the Mic even the volume in Cubase input is down. This Mic sound is dry and without the effect I've added. When i increased the cubase input level I get the effect added on top of the other dry sound. Why is it that I am having as if two inputs of the same mic( one direct and one thru cubase). I thank Lemury for his explanation to me in another thread. My recording input that is mic is only connected to ASIO 2(only input that work on my SB LIVE). I've tried to mute the mic in KX mixer but with same results. When the monitor button is pressed in Cubase should I not hear ONLY the sound with the effect added? Please help.
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>>When I do direct monitoring in Cubase SX2.....
[color=yellow]In SX2, hit F4 and setup your VST inputs correctly.[/color] >>My recording input that is mic is only connected to ASIO 2(only input that >>work on my SB LIVE). [color=yellow]Again; In SX2, hit F4 and setup your VST inputs correctly..!!!!![/color] [color=yellow]That is;..You have to ACTIVATE the other VST inputs before you can use them.[/color] [color=yellow]Also; take note of the "asio mapping issue".[/color] >>I've tried to mute the mic in KX mixer but with same results. [color=yellow]if you use the ProFX, don't fiddle with kX Mixer unless you know what you are doing. There is no need to.[/color] >>> When the monitor button is pressed in Cubase should I not hear ONLY >>the sound with the effect added? Please help. [color=yellow]Yes, and it does. I just tested it with 3537, so you must be doing something wrong. [/color] [color=#ffff00]/LeMury[/color] [color=#ffff00][/color] [color=#ffff00]EDIT:[/color] [color=#ffff00]What driver version do you use?[/color] Last edited by LeMury; Oct 26, 2004 at 06:22 AM. |
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Thank you Lemury I've understood how the DSP works. I've saved all kx files. I've been recording guitar from line in of my sblive 5.1. ( ver 3537)I wanted to record also a keyboard thru the same input ( Line in Left+Right)at the same time. I could not get both to record on separate track. Is there a way to do this. In both mono and stereo track both sounds got mixed and recorded together. Also SRC1 (line in) is going to ASIO 2( mapping). but I cannot map SRC2 to any ASIO inputs. Can anybody help.
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[color=yellow]Guitar -> LineIn_Left input[/color] [color=yellow]Keyboard -> LineIn_Right input[/color] [color=yellow]Thus you'll get *mono* recordings per instrument..!![/color] [color=yellow]So in Cubase you setup 2 mono tracks.[/color] [color=yellow]One is recording the Left signal (guitar),[/color] [color=yellow]the other is recording the Right signal (synth).[/color] [color=yellow][/color] [color=yellow]You use only one SRC set to ac97 LineIn of course.[/color] [color=yellow]Wire SRC's left and right output to seperate ASIO recording outputs[/color] [color=yellow]corresponding to the two cubase tracks.[/color] Quote:
[color=yellow]Anyway;[/color] [color=yellow]Yes, you can map/record to other ASIO channels but most likely[/color] [color=yellow]your card has the 'asio mapping issue'.[/color] [color=yellow][/color] [color=yellow]You have to do a test how your card maps the asio recording channels;[/color] [color=yellow]In Cubase, add and *activate* ALL VST Inputs (F4).[/color] [color=yellow]Now add the Wavegenerator to the DSP, and wire the sine output[/color] [color=yellow]to each ASIO channel one after the other.[/color] [color=yellow]Check each time in (F3) Cubase Input Mixer if a signal is comming in.[/color] [color=yellow]Write down the mapping/results which asio nr corresponds to which VST input.[/color] [color=yellow][/color] [color=yellow]That's it.[/color] [color=#ffff00][/color] [color=#ffff00]/LeMury[/color] |
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Thanks a lot. Lemury has been of great help to us.
[color=#ffff00]Check each time in (F3) Cubase Input Mixer if a signal is comming in. Write down the mapping/results which asio nr corresponds to which VST input.[/color] In fact I am using only 1 SRC to do the job.I have done the testing you explained and here are my findings: With SRC going to ASIO only input 3 i.e ASIO2 is giving an output sinewave.I've noticed that ASIO 3&4 are missing on the ASIO. when I used Epilog only ASIO 0 is useful. |
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Great stuff, thanks
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>>I have done the testing you explained and here are my findings:
>>With SRC going to ASIO only input 3 i.e ASIO2 is giving an output sinewave. [color=yellow]There must be more channels available![/color] >>I've noticed that ASIO 3&4 are missing on the ASIO. [color=yellow]That is because you have one of those "issues cards" (sblive 5.1)[/color] >>when I used Epilog only ASIO 0 is useful. [color=yellow]There must be more channels available![/color] [color=#ffff00]--------------------------------------------------------[/color] [color=yellow]Ok,..Let me try to summerize and explain this again;[/color] [color=yellow]Some cards have the known "asio mapping issue".[/color] [color=yellow]Without going into detail; some of the lower asio numbers[/color] [color=yellow]are not available, so the numbering gets shifted.[/color] [color=yellow]Nevertheless; you stiil have and can use 16 -2 = 14 asio recording channels..!!!!![/color] [color=yellow]The difference between [ProFX's ASIO] and [Epilog's asio ] is the numbering.[/color] [color=yellow](I will fix that sometime to avoid more confusion)[/color] [color=yellow]Bottom line is;[/color] [color=yellow]- Even if you have an "issue card", you still have and can use 14 asio recording channels..!![/color] [color=yellow]- In order to actualy use these asio channels, you have to enable/activate[/color] [color=yellow]these VST inputs in your sequencer -> Cubase SX.[/color] [color=yellow]So it is simply not true that only 1 asio recording channel works....!![/color] [color=yellow](hmm,... I think I will add a section to the guide about this)[/color] [color=yellow]/LeMury[/color] |
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I am not on my PC now but i've tested the settings you've given on another pc with sblive(CT4832). ASIO 0 &1 are working o.k. both channels R+L are being monitored properly through SX2. i have not facility to record here but if it is coming on the Sx inputs it is ok then.
[color=#ffff00] In order to actualy use these asio channels, you have to enable/activate[/color] All have been activated. [color=#ffff00]So it is simply not true that only 1 asio recording channel works....!![/color] I think there is some other issue with my card. May be I will uninstall Kx and reinstall. Thank you again. |
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I've reinstall KX with same results. I am desperate with this card.(SB0101 5.1).It appears that only the left channel is working.
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Update: "ASIO mapping issue" added.
I have updated the Guide on the "asio mapping issue".
Have a look, maybe you overlooked something. /LeMury |
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[color=yellow]skipping important parts thinking they already know or don't need.[/color] [color=yellow](I have seen that happen to often)[/color] [color=yellow]Maybe later if the guides really grow to big.[/color] [color=yellow]For now; let them search and read.[/color] [color=yellow]/LeMury[/color] |
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Lots of thanks go to Lemury. I followed your guide and my card responded just as the one in the example. So at last I've selected only one stereo VST(changed to 4KX IN03, 5KX IN04
) input in Cubase and used ASIO5 and ASIO6. It works for Left and Right Channel in Sx2.As seen above I should not use the port IN00 and IN01.I have to experiment more with this card because I've noticed that when one ASIO input is disconnected from the wave generator the mapping for some inputs got changed.It depends which input is disconnected.I've noted the following readings on the ASIO ASIO 0 [4000] ASIO 1 [4001] -------------- ASIO 11[4009] and curiously it changes to ASIO 12 [[color=orange]400a[/color]] ASIO 13[[color=orange]400b[/color]] ASIO 14[[color=orange]400c[/color]] Thanks again I've got the card [[color=lime]SB0102 5.1 (ff80[/color])] to work on both channels. Continue the good work Last edited by patmos; Nov 3, 2004 at 12:00 AM. |
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[color=yellow](I'm curious if this 'changing' also happens on Epilog)[/color] [color=yellow][/color] [color=yellow]Anyway; I'm glad there's nothing wrong with your card,[/color] [color=yellow]and that you *can* use more asio recording channels if you want to.[/color] [color=yellow][/color] [color=yellow]/LeMury[/color] |
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I will gladly do this for Epilog. One more thing: I've noticed that ASIO7 get mapped to either IN4 R or IN3 R. Each time I disconnect and reconnect it got swapped between these two.
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For Epilog IN2 L+R did not map.
ASIO 0 [4010]-----------IN3 L 3 [4013]-----------IN3 R 4 [4014]-----------IN4 L 5 [4015]-----------IN4 R 6 [4016]-----------IN5 L 7 [4017]-----------IN5 R 8 [4018]-----------IN6 L 9 [4019]-----------IN6 R 10[401a]-----------IN7 L 11[401b]-----------IN7 R 12[401c]-----------IN8 L 13[401d]-----------IN8 R 14[401e]-----------IN L 15[401f]-----------IN R I was not able to do direct monitoring in SX. For all combinations of VST inputs I could not get a sound output in my loudspeaker. Nevertheless when ASIO 14 & 15 are selected I see the VU in SX loaded with both R+L signal and the O/P also is present ,but still no sound. Have I missed something? When I replaced Epilog by ASIO in the same setup I did get the direct output. |
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