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Mar 11, 2004, 07:54 AM
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DriverHeaven Junior Member
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 64
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KX Project and the SB Live!
I felt I should put this on a new thread for those too young to remember the history of modern audio recording, so here it goes again:
What more can we expect from an SB Live!, a soundcard which so-called pro musicians have shun so many times, it has taken the luster out of it. We must not forget that not too long ago (say 15 years) we could not record even in 16 bit/44Khz without having to spend thousands of dollars on stand alone equipment that did not even have effects built-in (that would be other thousands of dollars), go back five more years and you could not even record in 8 bit, and your only option was hissy analog tape machines (I know, I was there then, splicing reel-to-reel tape!). I hear time and time again, from musician friends and on forums on the net, about the lack of higher ASIO bit rates and frequencies not supported on certain soundcards, namely the Sound Blaster line of cards, and I say to myself, why do people take for granted an SB Live! which nowadays costs only a meager $20 bucks! and could do things that 15 years ago people only dreamed of. I personally have an SB Live, and an Audigy, and have done full audio projects with vocals and all, and have not been let down by these cards- not to mention that I also use the great drivers from the KX Project which work flawlessly. I'll finish up by saying this: Recording in 16 bit/48 Khz is not a drawback, you gain by recording at a higher rate other than 44Khz, and if you wish to finish your projects in 16/44 (which you will ultimately have to if you want to burn to an audio disk), you can always use the myriad of sample conversion programs available for free on the net, that is if your audio Application does not already have it implemented. Did I also mentioned that nowadays buying a synth is not a sacrifice like it use to be for older folks wanting to get into music back in the days, now you just download a free VSTi from the net and start creating music- on your KX ASIO-enabled SB Live!!!! Dont let the 48Khz deter you from creating your art!
Rivera
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Mar 11, 2004, 08:13 AM
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Alternative Audioproductions
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Germany / Sachsen-Anhalt
Posts: 1,597
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Hi!
That´s all right what you say and many people believe that only 24/192 is the real audio-format for these times (and tons of speakers around us). All fine, but I think (for myself), this is really overdriven. No one of us is able to hear frequencies above 16.000 Hz and yes, headroom is important... But - I´m a really thankful user of 16/48 technology and I´m very happy that my dreams come true with every new day and new version of the famous kx-driver. Don´t let us create a new philosophy of sound quality and don´t let us try to reach things we never can get - let us create new music (for a better world  )!
Greetings!
TravelRec. 
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Mar 11, 2004, 10:16 AM
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DriverHeaven Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Brazil
Posts: 1,137
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Also, when using VSTi, it doesn't matter if you have a sblive or the ultimate protools gig, because the audio is created, mixed and processed completely in the digital domain, so the final result is the same for every single card...
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Mar 11, 2004, 12:52 PM
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DriverHeaven Lover
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 228
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Let me 1st say im poor. I dont make alot of money at work, and my band is mainly doing alot of freebe opening gigs to get our name out ( www.barelywhiteband.com ). The KX drivers and Sound Blaster Live card has enabled me to use my PC as a live sound module. I run alot of different great sounding VSTi. Todays VSTi sound as good or better that hardware keyboards that cost 10 times as much. With out KX i woud be stuck with the lame cheezy sounds of my Korg M1. Now I just midi to the PC and have an unmatched sound library to choose from.
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Mar 12, 2004, 01:12 AM
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Alternative Audioproductions
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Germany / Sachsen-Anhalt
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Quote:
Originally posted by Daniel Drummond
Also, when using VSTi, it doesn't matter if you have a sblive or the ultimate protools gig, because the audio is created, mixed and processed completely in the digital domain, so the final result is the same for every single card...
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Yes, quite correct, but with kx and the card I´m very flexible in chaining and switching outputs and inputs without spending money in horrible hardware things or an audio card that burns out my power supply  / and don´t forget the onboard fx and .... you know what I mean!
Greetings!
TravelRec.
P.S.: Finally the user takes the responsibility for the sound - it´s just a difference how you can get it - relaxed or with a bunch of grey hairs!
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Mar 12, 2004, 01:45 AM
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DH's Latest Mac Convert
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Basement of the first floor
Posts: 15,630
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the kx project, the soundblaster live, and vst-i software has allowed me, a 16 yr old skoolboy, to do things i was only dreaming of 2 years ago
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Mar 12, 2004, 04:02 AM
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DriverHeaven Lover
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 209
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ah you lucky dj_stick  when i was 16 i'd record on a two tape boombox that mixed tape 1 with mic in and record that into tape 2. So I'd record something on tape2 then move that tape to tape1, and play on top of that the next track, switch tapes and re-record the whole mix again and again
Imagine a mono recorder where everything you play whas inmediately mixed and "burned" togheter with the whole mix, funny days, It felt very creative.
Last edited by miguel; Mar 12, 2004 at 04:09 AM.
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Mar 19, 2004, 08:46 PM
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DriverHeaven Junior Member
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 70
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Ah you lucky Miguel, when I was 16 I made my first slide show with audio, and had ONE tape recorder so I had to record the music, rewind, cover the erase head with insulating tape put the tape in the place were the narration was intended to be and record over the musical background??. And as you said I felt very creative. (believe it or not that was a professional technique some recorders had a switch to disconnect the erase heads)
Regarding your dual recorder technique, I remember as a kid watching Walt Disney himself (on TV) explaining how they recorded a ?duet? song (I think it was the Siamese Cats song ) with two ¼ inch reel recorders, and I think even my grandchildren will enjoy these songs.
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Mar 20, 2004, 12:49 AM
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DriverHeaven Junior Member
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 27
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Ahh...the memories are all coming back now!!!!......
I remember when i was 16, i borrowed an old boss drum machine from school ran it through my little 10 watt practice amp with my bass guitar, set up a little portable tape recorder in the middle of my bedroom and got my brother to sit near it while strumming some beat-up old acoustic and sing while i played, recorded everything through the little mic on the tape deck, u could mix by moving the amp (or Brother) further away or closer to the little boombox!...............i think i still have the cassette stashed away somewhere! 
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Mar 20, 2004, 05:43 AM
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DH's Latest Mac Convert
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Basement of the first floor
Posts: 15,630
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it's interesting to see how everyone adapts to the technology that they have access to in order to do pretty much the same thing…
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