KX + SB Live Platinum 5.1 + 48khz + 44.1Khz

petezar · Sep 29, 2003, 08:48 AM

hi there,
i know something similar has been discussed before but i still need help.

i'm using cubase sx + gigsampler + sb live platinum 5.1 on a pentium 4 with windows 2000 professional.

well, before installing KX-Driver, i was able to record and play @ 44.1khz (SPDIF in/out) but the latency on cubase sx was much too long, as well as gigasampler didn't recognize my soundcard.

after installing KX-Diver, my latency on cubase sx is fantastic and gigasampler does recognize my soundcard, hooray!

But there's another problem now. everything works fine except recording and play (SPDIF in/out) has now a rate of 48khz. i can't even play the windows systems wav files, all 44.1khz recorded wav files plays a noisy sound.

as soon as i'm going to uninstall KX-Driver, my soundcard does play and record @ 44.1khz.

can anyone help?
thanx!
pete

**Eugene Gavrilov** · Sep 29, 2003, 11:55 AM

if you are using ASIO:
= you can use either 48000 or 44100 sampling rates
in '44100' mode you won't be able to record (due to hardware limitation)
in '48000' up to 16 recording channels are available

if you are using WinMM/DirectSound/KernelStreaming:
= all sampling rates are supported
any non-48000 sampling rate is automatically resampled by the driver

GSIF
= you can use 48000 sampling rate ONLY

don't forget to set your hardware acceleration to 'Full' and sampling rate conversion quality to 'Best'

/Eugene

petezar · Sep 29, 2003, 01:06 PM

Thanx Eugene for your help.

i'm sorry, but i'm a newbie.
i have checked you tips but it's still impossible to play 44.1khz wav files on my system. also movies (mpg, avi) don't play corretly (they stuck) after installing KX-Driver.

do you know where i can change this?

i'm using wavelab to record songs in digital. i'm able to record the songs @ 44.1khz but i'm not able to play them (still a noisy sound). any idea?

hope you can help again.
thanx!
pete

Daniel Drummond · Sep 29, 2003, 02:28 PM

Did you remove all your Creative labs (soundblaster) software before installing KX? You should have.

petezar · Sep 29, 2003, 03:34 PM

yes, looks like that was the problem.
i had to re-install sb drivers and deinstall them again. now it works fine.
it does now play all the 44.1khz wav files without any noises

also movies do play now perfectly.

great, everything is now much better wih kx-drivers installed! great work!

the only difference which i couldn't fix is, that SPDIF out was sending data to my dat tape
@ 44.1khz with creative drivers, now with kx-drivers it only sends @ 48khz.

if someone knows how to fix that, i'd be more than happy

thanx!
pete

**Eugene Gavrilov** · Sep 29, 2003, 04:30 PM

there's a possibility to choose spdif output frequency (on the main page of the kX Mixer)

/E

petezar · Sep 29, 2003, 06:21 PM

yes, i have seen the control button on kx help file.
but this control button is missing on my version. i only got 8 master controls and buttons instead of 9 showing in the help file.

is it a bug?

i'm using windows 2000 professional + kx 5, 10, 00, 3534 - debug

thanx!
pete

TravelRec. · Sep 30, 2003, 12:11 AM

aaahm, another question:

isn´t it better for DAT to record with 48 kHz? Why with 44,1? The DAT-technology is predestinated to get recordings with 48 kHz - as the only one in the consumer area. I think you should use it. And the SPDIF-frequency change button is not any slider. It is on the uppest window on kx-mixer (there where the swap function and the DIRECT SPDIF RECORDING function are - take a look!).

Greetinx!

TravelRec.

petezar · Sep 30, 2003, 03:12 AM

Sorry, but never heard, that 48khz would be better for DAT recordings but I'm no professional.

I definitely can't find any SPDIF out frequency change function on my version of KX.

Maybe I'm blind, but with W2k there's no such function. Sorry, still need help

On Kx-Mixer - Master settings i got the following controllers:
1. Master Volume 2. Wave/PCM 3. Midi Synth 4. Speaker Setup 5. Toggle 'Swap front and rear' mode
6. Toggle 'Digital output only' mode 7. Toggle 'Route headphones....'mode 8. Toggle 'SPDIF bypass' mode.
that's all.

Thanx!
pete

**Eugene Gavrilov** · Sep 30, 2003, 04:40 PM

ah, ok

I forgot it was available for 10k2-based cards only...
it is difficult to keep all these cards/configurations in mind simultaneously...

sorry

>> was able to record and play @ 44.1khz (SPDIF in/out)

probably, Creative drivers re-sampled the data on-the-fly
kX Project doesn't perform any resampling (in ASIO mode)

in the very recent versions of the kX drivers you can -playback- 44.1 files successfully (in ASIO; resampled), but ASIO recording won't be available since it requires certain CPU processing

/E

petezar · Oct 1, 2003, 06:33 AM

After deinstalling all Creative lab drivers and installing kx-drivers, everything was o.k. well, as long as i didn't reboot the system.

1 day later, after rebooting my pc, nothing works again, even with my saved setting.
> winamp doesn't play wav or mp3 files (it stucks and theres a noisy sound again)
> movies (mpg,avi) are runnig to fast and without any sound
> spdif out does sound noisy again

- the only thing which still works is midi.

after 3 days of trying out different setting to fix the problem and to work as it was before with the
original creative labs drivers i had sadly to decide, to uninstall kx-driver and reinstall the original creative drivers again.

after doing that, everything is working normal, except i'm having a huge latency on cubase as well i can't use gigasampler. but i'm able to play wav, mp3, movies,... without having any problems and spdif out sends data @ 44.1khz.

Tip for everyone who's trying to create some music and being creative. don't buy sblive/audigy soundcards. better spend some more money for 'real' professional soundcards. that's what i've learned.
i'm gonna kick out my sblive and buy a big professional soundcard.

again, thanx to everyone for helping.
greetz
pete

TravelRec. · Oct 1, 2003, 06:53 AM

Hehe, don´t be so angy!

It is really possible to make good and creative music with the "cheaper" cards ´cause their quality is not so bad like you said (just take a look at the "powered by kx - forum"). Many of the people here are very lucky with their equipment. And don´t think all the world is better if you buy a "professional" card. There are also some problems with them. So... it is a little bit tricky to make your system run very well, but this is not only a thing of the drivers (think only about the OS). Too many factors are playing around. If you have a little time, browse the forum and maybe you will find an aswer.

So take it easy - not everything is growing up on trees...

TravelRec.

**Eugene Gavrilov** · Oct 1, 2003, 05:25 PM

>> 1 day later, after rebooting my pc, nothing works again, even with my saved setting.

that's strange
have you overclocked your system?
do you have any third-party software running? (cpu idle? PCI tweaking tools? any optimizers?)
post your software/hardware configuration here (found in the 'about...' dialog box of the kX Mixer)

btw, if you install kX over Creative -- and reboot -- do you get normal sound?
if you turn your PC off, then back on (on ACPI system you may need to unplug power for 20 sec!) -- does it cause the same problems?..

/E