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Old Sep 28, 2003, 01:42 PM   #1
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All inputs muted but "What u hear" still records

Any ideas?
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Old Sep 28, 2003, 02:40 PM   #2
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Gimme some more!

Where have you muted your inputs? (on which page in kx mixer?
Which program do you record in?
Which driver (ASIO, DirectX etc) have you selected from within your software?
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Old Sep 29, 2003, 12:24 AM   #3
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... to say it once more again: all creative drivers should be completely uninstalled before running a kx-installation. As far as I remember, the "what U hear" is an creative input. Please uninstall creative drivers!!!

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Old Sep 29, 2003, 09:50 AM   #4
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- haven't installed Creative drivers, but have tried to obliterate them as much as I can.

Just used "what U hear" because I can think of no other way to describe it, especially as I can't see that as an input in the KX mixer.

Have muted all inputs and zero'ed too on both the AC97 page and the rec page too.

Using Cubase to record but I _think_ it effects sound recorder too, I can test that later to be sure - if it does effect all programs it's not an ASIO input thing.

Unfortunately this is a friends computer.

This problem presists on a fresh install.

Perhaps there is a program I can use to test:

- asio in/out
- directx in/out
- `normal` in/out

That could simplify things?
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Old Sep 29, 2003, 10:49 AM   #5
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Hi again!

Sorry for suspecting creative´s drivers. Hm, cubase normally records via ASIO (you will know this), so do you have the kx ASIO driver selected (under audio/system)? If yes, then look into your DSP, where the ASIO 0/1 inputs are connected with. This should be the source you will record. Maybe it´s okay to connect your ASIOs manually with the source you like. This works fine and eliminates errors of forgotten faders or so. And there are many plugins and routing possibilities to swich your ASIOs around. So check all your connections again and take a little time, and all will be fine!

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Old Sep 29, 2003, 11:59 AM   #6
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have you tweaked 'Wave Recording' slider?..

in ASIO mode you should not be able to record 'what you hear' without tweaking the kX DSP settings

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"Have muted all inputs and zero'ed too on both the AC97 page and the rec page too."

With this you should not be able to record in Cubase with DirectX driver or ASIO Multimedia driver.
(You choose this from within Cubase). You can still hear "What you hear" because you have not muted AC97
on In/Out page on kx mixer. (And should not do either.)

So use kx ASIO inside Cubase , choose 48 kHz and choose the right VSTinputs inside Cubase.
(4 and 5 if you haven´t made any changes in DSP)
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The silly thing is that you now must disconnect in DSP the lines that goes from
prolog 0 and 1 (AC97) to xrouting 0 and 1.
If you don´t do that you will hear your signal twice.
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Old Oct 1, 2003, 05:31 PM   #8
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>> The silly thing is that you now must disconnect in DSP the lines that goes from
>> prolog 0 and 1 (AC97) to xrouting 0 and 1.

this is caused by certain ambiguity in the present DSP microcode
(introduced mainly in order to save DSP registers)

when you record in WinMM/KernelStreaming/DirectSound mode, you don't need to tweak the DSP and you can control the rec. levels on the 'recording' page
while in 'ASIO' mode the DSP window might require certain modifications and the levels that affect recording are located on the 'ins & outs' page (and they affect monitoring sound, too)
so, one really needs to disconnect the corresponding inputs in the DSP window in order to disable monitoring in ASIO...

in order to get 'what you hear' recording option, connect xrouting's RecL & RecR to asio0/asio1
(in this case you will get a simple setup a-la WinMM/DirectSound)

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