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Old Sep 22, 2009, 02:20 AM   #61
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Very good,All normal!thank you
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Old Sep 22, 2009, 06:29 AM   #62
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Try increasing buffer size. If that doesn't help, select 2/3 as your output instead of Master Mixer.
It is my actual buffer's configuration:

1024 KB
8352 bytes (~8.70 ms)
65536 bytes
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256 samples

I am using Windows 7 rc 7100.

I yet hear noise

Can I change any property for improve the sound??
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Old Sep 22, 2009, 09:08 AM   #63
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Yessss! I <3 you Eugene. Working 100% in Windows 7 32-bit on a SB0220, surround and everything! Is there a paypal or something i can thank you with?

Sound was tinny and distorted on install (i have a digital speaker set thats uses the SPDIF) but i went into Sound in the Control Panel and switched to SPDIF from the default 'WaveOut 6/7' and all was working (surround and all) and it sounded superb.

Did some testing with my speakers & a nice headset i have:
Master mixer, sounds ok, not great, no surround.
WaveOut 2/3: Distorted sound, a little tinny but lows and mids are a bit more defined than master mixer. No surround.
WaveOut 4/5: Distorted sound just the same except its outputting to only the 2 rear speakers. No surround.
WaveOut 6/7: Very tinny, very noticable distortion, lows and mids sound fairly muddy, missing depth to audio. Theres surround but its very quiet.
SPDIF/AC3 Output: Sounds great, possibly better than it does in XP(suprisingly). Clear and defined lows mids and highs. Full surround.

Thank you very much for everything Eugene!

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Re: 3550 released - x86 and x64

Now using 3550 with Windows 7 x64 RC1 with 4GB RAM and working perfect and so far no clicks or whatever noticed!

This is my recommendation for headphone/stereo setup users:

Use Wave 4/5, lower volume in windows volume control for Wave 4/5 to 33% to avoid distortion at higher volume and use kX volume slider to set volume as needed. Make sure Surrounder+ have set Surround to "On" and 2.1 profile.

This will have very nice audio quality (highs and mids and powerful deep bass) and perfectly working 3D positional/surround sound for a stereo setup. And yes like above mentioned, the sound quality is better in Windows 7 than Win XP even, when configured correctly.

Creative should really have a look at kX project, their cards are great but their own drivers sux so much it ain't funny. kX drivers are the perfect example of how IMPORTANT good drivers are!

EDIT: If some1 have problem with getting it to work PM me and I could send my settings.

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Old Sep 22, 2009, 12:46 PM   #65
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Yessss! I <3 you Eugene. Working 100% in Windows 7 32-bit on a SB0220, surround and everything! Is there a paypal or something i can thank you with?
A nice idea. There is donation info on the kX web page here: kX Project -- kX Fund
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WaveOut 5/6
WaveOut 5/6? Is that a typo? It should be 6/7.
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Old Sep 22, 2009, 02:23 PM   #67
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Yessss! I <3 you Eugene. Working 100% in Windows 7 32-bit on a SB0220, surround and everything! Is there a paypal or something i can thank you with?

Sound was tinny and distorted on install (i have a digital speaker set thats uses the SPDIF) but i went into Sound in the Control Panel and switched to SPDIF from the default 'WaveOut 6/7' and all was working (surround and all) and it sounded superb.

Did some testing with my speakers & a nice headset i have:
Master mixer, sounds ok, not great, no surround.
WaveOut 2/3: Distorted sound, a little tinny but lows and mids are a bit more defined than master mixer. No surround.
WaveOut 4/5: Distorted sound just the same except its outputting to only the 2 rear speakers. No surround.
WaveOut 5/6: Very tinny, very noticable distortion, lows and mids sound fairly muddy, missing depth to audio. Theres surround but its very quiet.
SPDIF/AC3 Output: Sounds great, possibly better than it does in XP(suprisingly). Clear and defined lows mids and highs. Full surround.

Thank you very much for everything Eugene!
Wow, aren't you quite right about SPDIF/AC3? I'm pretty surprised.
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Old Sep 22, 2009, 08:34 PM   #68
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It is my actual buffer's configuration:

1024 KB
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256 samples

I am using Windows 7 rc 7100.

I yet hear noise

Can I change any property for improve the sound??
Your default output is 2/3 instead of Master Mixer, right?
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Old Sep 22, 2009, 08:39 PM   #69
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Selecting "master mixer" seems to be the best option. Thanks about pointing out that though. I wonder if the random metallic sounds at system startup will be gone.
Master mixer is distorted for me, for whatever reason. I don't get metallic sound at system startup. Well, maybe I do, but I've got my Grado's hooked on and I never have them on on startup. It's strange that different people here have very different distortion profiles on different WaveOuts. For reference, I have SB 0243 (Dell's version of Audigy 2 ZS).
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@Astral: I do not know what you need to do/change, everything your doing 'sounds' correct to me... you could try clearing the dsp and loading a very basic configuration, FXbusX into StVol, into k2lt, then try changing the outputs, use a peak meeter to check if you are getting signal into the dsp, also, if you go into the kXmixer and click on the last (lowest) tab on the left, you should see some sort of colored bars, depending on what kind of input to the card you are using (Ks, direct sound, etc)... if you cannot find anything using a peak meter (off of the FXbusX) then look at that to see if the card is receiving a source...
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Old Sep 22, 2009, 09:48 PM   #71
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CT4830 4G 内存 缓冲区设置:1024K 2048K 正常发声
安装设置完毕后 wave out6/7 声音非常小 SPDIF/AC3 output 声音有改善 不过声音还是有点小
再次感谢kx驱动开发人员

CT4830 4G memory buffer settings: 1024K 2048K normal voice
After installation settings wave out6 / 7 voice sounds very small SPDIF/AC3 output has improved, but the sound is still a bit small
Once again, thank kx-driven development officer
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Old Sep 22, 2009, 10:28 PM   #72
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Master mixer is distorted for me, for whatever reason. I don't get metallic sound at system startup. Well, maybe I do, but I've got my Grado's hooked on and I never have them on on startup. It's strange that different people here have very different distortion profiles on different WaveOuts. For reference, I have SB 0243 (Dell's version of Audigy 2 ZS).
Forget what I said about "Master mixer" if you have a Soundblaster Live! 5.1, as I do. Someone pointed out the SPDIF/AC3 output, and sound is better and cleaner than what I've ever seen before.
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Old Sep 22, 2009, 10:29 PM   #73
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By the way, guys, one interesting thing that seems to allow to control channels is to select each of them as a default device and then increase / decrease volume in them, and then setting SPDIF/AC3 output as default again.

Why is this happening though? I didn't know Live had this kind of output.
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A little bug: under Settings\Driver Compatibility, there is an option "lang settings.compat14 ??". Not sure what should be there, but I'm pretty sure that's not it
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Old Sep 26, 2009, 09:20 AM   #75
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hi, I've been using kX drivers on my Audigy Platinum some years ago, but had to choose another drivers when vista came out (I had 4gb of ram).
Now with Windows 7 I tried them again, and as it used to be, the sound is brilliant
But I have problem with 5.1 speaker configuration. When I choose Master mixer as playback device, only my 2 front speakers work when playing .wav files (even if I set surround on in speaker configuration, neither my subwoofer makes any sound). But when I play AC3 file witch 6 channel sound, all the speakers play as they should.
If I choose SPDIF/AC3, I get much much better sound, everything works as should, EXCEPT the AC3 files, no matter what I try I always hear rear channel sounds and surround channel in my front speakers (like when I play 2 channel .wav files), so no 6 channel sound.

Is there any way to get this sorted out? I don't remember exactly how it used to behave on Windows XP when I used kX for the last time.
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Old Sep 26, 2009, 11:21 AM   #76
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Re: 3550 released - x86 and x64

Driver is working in Windows Server 2008 R2 x64(R2 doesn't have x86). 4GB RAM PC.

I did little tweak:

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The following registry entry is set to 100 in Win2k8, where it is set to 20 on Vista.
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Multimedia\SystemProfile\SystemR esponsiveness
I am using Wave Out 2/3. Master Mixer has clicks as always.
Sometimes audio stutters, even with SystemResponsiveness tweak.

I tweaked the buffers a bit, but I am not sure what values to put there.

now:

Code:
512KB
9600 (10.00ms)
32768 bytes
4 buffers
256 samples
Can you suggest me other values to try?

Thanks for the driver Eugene.

The only thing stopping me from going x64 is that there is still not ProFX x64. I have audigy 2 zs and the only way of selecting the external MIC input (Mic2/Line In2) is with ProFX plugin.
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I have audigy 2 zs and the only way of selecting the external MIC input (Mic2/Line In2) is with ProFX plugin.
Is Mic2/Line In2 not available on Prolog for your card?
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Is Mic2/Line In2 not available on Prolog for your card?
I am gonna test this right now
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I have connected Peak to every output of prolog starting with:
Line1/Mic1
Line2
Line3

No indication of sound coming out of it.
I only can use my microphone with your plugins it seems.

PS2.
I found my Line In2/Mic 2 input on prologlt. Its called i2s0_l and i2s0_r. Noise level its very high. Maybe that's related to A2ZS model. I have to investigate more.

PS3. Looks like basic version of ProFX is included in the x64 driver . MX6 is kinda ugly but does the job. Thanks a lot! Goodbye 32bit OSes

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PS3. Looks like basic version of ProFX is included in the x64 driver . MX6 is kinda ugly but does the job. Thanks a lot! Goodbye 32bit OSes
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Tested SB0220 under windows7 x86, 1Gb. Ram: -- -----, only noise.
Soundcard detected as SB0229 or SB0228, but it's a SB0220.
Selected all waveouts, and all analog jack outputs, but no sound.

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EDIT: This soundcard was broken.

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Often an OEM card will be printed SB0XX0 but be recognized SB0XX8 (or 2, 4, 9 etc.) that last digit seems to be an OEM designation. (CT4XX0 cards are similar in this regard) I always go with the driver chosen by KX... it's seems to know better than I do, which is the right one.
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Often an OEM card will be printed SB0XX0 but be recognized SB0XX8 (or 2, 4, 9 etc.) that last digit seems to be an OEM designation. (CT4XX0 cards are similar in this regard) I always go with the driver chosen by KX... it's seems to know better than I do, which is the right one.
But the driver sometimes show SB0228, sometimes SB0229, with the same card..
EDIT: Soundcard was broken.

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I've never experienced it myself, but I've read that the eeprom can get corrupt and show incorrect version or "no version"....... Odd that it would "switch" though.


Did you try an un-install and re-install of the drivers?
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I've never experienced it myself, but I've read that the eeprom can get corrupt and show incorrect version or "no version"....... Odd that it would "switch" though.


Did you try an un-install and re-install of the drivers?
Yes, I tried to uninstall and reinstall several times the Kx in windows7.

I'll try to install XP (clean install), to test if the soundcard is correctly detected by the Creative driver, and the Kx driver also.

Thanks.

EDIT: I tried it in XP (32), with it's Creative drivers, and this soundcard seems to be broken.
Kx detected it as "SB0246 10k2", but the installed installs "kx 10k1 audio (3550) - generic".
I tested in another PCI slot, also.

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EDIT: I tried it in XP (32), with it's Creative drivers, and this soundcard seems to be broken.
Kx detected it as "SB0246 10k2", but the installed installs "kx 10k1 audio (3550) - generic".
Is it "kx 10k1 audio (3550) - generic" or is "kx 10k2 audio (3550) - generic"?

BTW: This seems to be normal behavior with the new kX versions. If you look at the kx.inf, you will see that it no longer listes every model, but rather only has the generic names. However, kxmixer still shows correct model info (assuming it is a model recognized by kX), as does the Windows Control Panel (for MIDI/WAV devices, etc).

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There were card with broken EEPROMs which worked, so that's most likely not an issue here. It apparently got shocked in some way that both EEPROM and something else got destoryed, and that's why it doesn't work.
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Is this normal? I'm using these new drivers on Windows Vista x64 and the Kx Mixer page only has off options and the other drop down boxes are empty. Does direct recording still work? It does not seem to be able to be turned on.

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Looks like a bug to me...

I guess that is what Ino was talking about in this thread...

BTW: It is all normal for me on Windows XP SP2 (32 Bit).
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I get a similar looking mixer in Win7 32 bit with a live card, I haven't tried any recording with that system though so I don't know what may/may not work. Is probably a bug...... shouldn't be that way
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I get a similar looking mixer in Win7 32 bit with a live card, I haven't tried any recording with that system though so I don't know what may/may not work. Is probably a bug...... shouldn't be that way
Hmm, with a Live! model, you should not even see those combo boxes (since they do not support such things).

Note: Again, with Windows XP SP2 (32 Bit), all is normal for me with both of my cards (SB0090, SB0228).
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