Is it impossible to get sound from rears on Live! Value?

Mastiff · Apr 8, 2003, 04:46 PM

Hi!
I'm trying to get my Live! Value (original four channel card without digital output) to play through the rear channels, but I get nowhere. I have tried the four available routings and can't get anywhere. Has anybody managed to do this, or am I just wasting time? I use the latest drivers, I believe, and I have set surrounder to 5.1 (I also tried 4.1) and surround off, and speakers in Windows Control Panel to 5.1 speakers). Hope somebody can help me, thanks a lot in advance!

Mastiff · Apr 11, 2003, 01:24 AM

You've got to be kidding! Does nobody on this forum know the answer to this?

Max M. · Apr 11, 2003, 03:38 AM

> I have tried the four available routings

Which ones?

Does rear play something when surrounder set to spk:5.1 and sur:On?

And copy here info from "kx->about->sw/hw config"...

Mastiff · Apr 11, 2003, 03:58 AM

First: Thank you very much for answering! I had almost given up, but our large neighbour in the East (my wife's from Kirkenes, just about two hour drive from Murmansk) comes through!

I have not managed to get sound from the rears yet, no. I used the 0/1, the 4/5, the 6/7 and the 8/9, the chip is reported as CT4670, and I have tried two drivers both the Value and the generic.

btw it drives me crazy that kX uses some menues I can't see over Remote Administrator! One of those was the About menu. I see the first image (the logo), but not the menu. Is it possible to turn off that effect anywhere?

Here is the info. I also have an Audigy Platinum EX in the same computer, but that's kept to itself since it seems I can't route only front channels to the SPDIF.
----Hardware / Software configuration---------------
Drivernavn:kX Audio Driver (Debug)
Driver-dato: Mar 27 2003 00:01:41
Driverversjon: 5.10.00.3531 - debug
DB-navn:none
CT4670 10k1 [d400]
PCI Information:
Device: 21102 Subsys: 201102 ChipRev: 4
Card has MPU device
Card HAS AC97 codec
Codec name: TriTech TR28023/CT1297
3D Extension: No 3D Stereo Enhancement
Codec is 1.0 compliant
Capabilities[0] :
DAC resolutions : -16-bit-
ADC resolutions : -16-bit-
Ext Capabilities [0]:
Port: d400 Irq: 7
Playback buffer: 20a0
Record buffer: 4000
Number of AC3 buffers: 8
Tank memory: 256 kb
----------------------------------------------------

And again thanks for answering!

Mastiff · Apr 11, 2003, 10:57 AM

OK, now I'm confused. I did a third restore settings (I've tried that twice before), and suddenly I get all sound out of either front or back outputs (depending on if I use switch back and front or not). I tried playing around with the router but that did not seem to change anything. What should be the correct settings?

Max M. · Apr 11, 2003, 07:53 PM

>What should be the correct settings? - this depends on what you mean with "correct"...

Mastiff · Apr 12, 2003, 01:11 AM

The settings that lets me use it as a two zone card in my multi-zone system!

Mastiff · Apr 13, 2003, 01:35 PM

I've even tried to put the card in another computer (same motherboard - MSI KT4 Ultra) but with Win2K instead of XP Pro, and I got the same problem. No sound on the speaker pair that isn't the "main" (depending on if I switch front and back) and sound from all wave devices on the main speakers.

Max M. · Apr 13, 2003, 01:44 PM

>and sound from all wave devices on the main speakers. - btw. this is default settings of "surrounder"... i hope you did not forget to configure it for your speakers before this test

Mastiff · Apr 13, 2003, 02:10 PM

Like I said in the first post, 5.1 or 4.1 (tried both at both times) with surround off. That should be the correct settings there, I belive. Or am I wrong?

xxxp · Apr 15, 2003, 04:54 PM

I have sillilar prblem with KX. On SB Live drivers there works fine 4 speakers, but when instal KX drivers, there works only 2 (could only mark to hear rear or front).
I try all the settings in KX and windows, but nothing is seem to work.
KS >Speaker test ! works ! but when playing sound f.e from winamp,
only 2 speakers are active
I like KX, but if it doesn't support 4 speakers on my SB Live Value..

----Hardware / Software configuration---------------
Driver Name:kX Audio Driver (Debug)
Driver Date: Mar 27 2003 00:01:41
Driver Version: 5.10.00.3531 - debug
DB Name:none
CT4670 10k1 [e800]
PCI Information:
Device: 21102 Subsys: 201102 ChipRev: 5
Card has MPU device
Card HAS AC97 codec
Codec name: SigmaTel STAC9721/23
3D Extension: SigmaTel 3D Enhancement
Codec is 2.0 compliant
Capabilities[6940] :
DAC resolutions : -16-bit- -18-bit-
ADC resolutions : -16-bit- -18-bit-
Ext Capabilities [200]: -slot/DAC mappings-
Port: e800 Irq: 12
Playback buffer: 20a0
Record buffer: 4000
Number of AC3 buffers: 8
Tank memory: 256 kb
----------------------------------------------------
If anyone know how to fix it, i'd be glad

Max M. · Apr 15, 2003, 07:16 PM

>KS >Speaker test ! works ! but when playing sound f.e from winamp, - this is absolutely normal - typically all the files you are listening (mp3/waves/cd) have only two channels: one left and one right... the normal human behaviour is to listen to two channels via two speakers - let's say front... if you want to duplicate front to rear, or create some kind of "virtual 5/4.1" you have to set surrounder to "copy" or "on"

xxxp · Apr 16, 2003, 11:57 AM

Max M. thanks for reply...

There is no deifrence when i set on "copy" or "on" surround.
I have try all the settings in sorruond.
Only 2 speakers are active (2 front or 2 rear, not 4 togheter.. ) and this is problem.
It is anoying to play winamp and only hear sound from 2 speakers

Is it KX drivers or settings bad ? If You know how to fix this, and if it possinle to fix, I would be glad..

Max M. · Apr 18, 2003, 05:46 PM

just check everything once more (it just works) - 1. make sure winamp output is set to kX Wave 0/1 (or its directsound brother - not to Wave 4/5/6/7/8/9). 2. Set surrounder to "SpkMode: 4.1", "Surround:Copy"

xxxp · Apr 19, 2003, 05:21 AM

Thank You very much Max M. I update to 3532 and set 4:1copy and all is fine. Thanks again. KX rox

Max M. · Apr 19, 2003, 06:06 PM

glad to know..

ruirocha · Apr 21, 2003, 07:22 PM

Hi there...
I had the same problem and i fixed it. I went to the router and in the wave tab put all the sliders up. Now i have sound from all speakers.