3538l ASIO performance

**Eugene Gavrilov** · Sep 17, 2006, 09:19 PM

pls report your results with 3538l here
(ASIO performance ONLY)!

E.

Doug W · Sep 18, 2006, 11:26 PM

I loaded 3538l tonight and played a test song that I recorded in nTrack. 15 tracks, using one Aux effect and 12 of the 15 tracks have effects.
http://webpages.charter.net/drw46/ex...ck15tracks.jpg

My elderly specs are listed in my signature.

3537 couldn't handle this song on my system
3534f played it back without pops or crackling with CPU usage above 90%
3538l played it back without pops or crackling with CPU usage around 87%

I will look at the other settings in the next couple of days but initially it looks like 3538l performance is as good or better than 3534f.

Thanks for all the work Eugene.

fvi · Sep 19, 2006, 05:02 AM

hi all,
I was sticked on 3538h due to midi patch inspector working fine (I know there's a trick for later releases).
I tried 3538l on 2 standard Cubase performance tests :
http://www.moar.net/cubasetest/index.shtml and http://www.adkproaudio.com/benchmarks.cfm (thonex test)
These tests have to be performed in 44.1khz but can be done in 48khz.

At relaxed latency (23ms), 3538h and 3538l have the same performance.
With the 2nd test (thonex)
3538h can handle 2.18ms (timer-based or default)
3538l can *only* handle 11.61ms (user/timer or defaut)

I switch back to 3538h, but I may try further tests if you want.

**dj_stick** · Sep 19, 2006, 06:10 AM

fvi - try different sync modes

BuzzT · Sep 19, 2006, 07:17 AM

Hi,
thanks Eugene for this new release. The "Double Cick" action is a cool feature. :-)

[COLOR=Silver] It seems to me that 3538k was a little better than 3538l in asio performance. With my audigy2zs and an old atlhon xp 1800+ i was able to use a latency of around 10ms on "k", but "l" crackles even at around 16ms. This happens in case of more than 60% cpu-usage. [/COLOR]
I really would like to know more about these different sync modes. Which one is very cpu intensive and which is not?

**dj_stick** · Sep 19, 2006, 07:48 AM

each sync mode will perform differently on different machines - you need to try each mde to see which works best for you.

BuzzT · Sep 19, 2006, 08:16 AM

Thanks. I just made a second test and found out that "map/irq/event (10k2)" works good for me. Please ignore my post #5 because at the first test there were some bugs on my system that caused insufficient resources (e.g. a program didn't release the memory after closing it) .
Now everything works just fine on "l" at 8-10,67ms.

Doug W · Sep 20, 2006, 01:51 AM

Tonight I tried all the new ASIO settings using the same test song that I described above. 15 tracks with effects in 12 of the tracks plus 1 aux effect channel. Normally on this computer, I use mostly the AUX effects and maybe a couple in the individual tracks but I through this song together to see how far I could push it.

OS: Xp Pro SP2
RAM: 512 MB RAM
CPU: Intel PIII 800 Mhz
HDD: 20G 7200RPM -40G 7200 RPM
ACPI
Sound cards:SB0090, Audigy 2 ZS SB0350
Video:NVidia GeForce 256
Rec. Software: nTrack Ver. 3.3

This is how the CPU usage went with the various settings:

Default 90%
User / Sleep 71%
User / Thread 90%
User Timer 65%
User / SMP-Froze the program
Krnl / Sleep 65-68%
Krnl / SMP-Froze the program
MAP / Irq / Sleep 65-68%
MAP / Timer / Sleep 65-68%
MAP / Irq / SMP-Froze the program
MAP / Timer / Event 70%
MAP / Irq / Event 70%

JGSF · Sep 20, 2006, 06:29 AM

I haven't done extensive testing, but one thing is sure: 3538l is definitely better! I can use 1ms in some apps with acpi installation and a network card working...

4ms works flawessly under those circumstances (previously I would still hear some glitches).

The map/irq/event mode works great in my system.

Thanks, Eugene!

fvi · Sep 20, 2006, 08:33 AM

Cubase Thonex test report

3538l - 44.1Khz - latency 5.80ms :
Default Impossible
User / Sleep Impossible
User / Thread lots of drops out
User Timer Impossible
User / SMP-Froze the program
Krnl / Sleep Impossible
Krnl / SMP-Froze the program
MAP / Timer / Sleep no sound
MAP / Timer / Event no sound

Note0 : same result at 48khz
Note1 : I didn't try 10k2 settings since I have an APS
Note2 : for all settings leading to "impossible", windows task manager reports only 4% of cpu usage !

3538h : the same test is possible at 2.80ms with default, timer or thread setting
with Timer setting I can even achieve 2.18ms (95% usage)

It's very strange I am the only one to have poor results.
I installed 3538l over 3538h as usual and do a "reset device settings" before testing.
My DAW : see my signature, standard ACPI, cubase 3.1, no extra process running

thomasabarnes · Sep 20, 2006, 12:22 PM

fvi:

Installing a newer driver over an older driver can sometimes create problems. Uninstall the kX Driver completely, then install 3538l and see what performance you get?

EDIT:

You may also want to follow this thread. In it Eugene says "...to make sure to reset your kX settings, since otherwize 3538l will behave unpredictably!"

http://driverheaven.net/showthread.php?t=118618

nakamichi · Sep 20, 2006, 02:38 PM

This is the best release yet (for 10k2-based cards)

3534f was unusable,missing a lot of 10k2-specific important features,even though it had slightly lower ASIO latency (in default mode).On the other hand,thread mode in 3538h had the best performance (solid 1ms),but it was unusable because of constant 100% CPU usage.

3538l is different: All modes perform very similar,offering the same performance as 3538h,except for the last one: IRQ/Event (10k2).

Really impressive - solid 1ms,even 0.66ms is usable for simpler projects

- but this time not hogging the CPU as with the Thread mode = really low CPU usage

Great release,but it has a few irritating issues:

- kxmixer.exe (the system tray process) has a very large memory footprint - about 34MB or more,a lot more than the previous versions.

- The audio device is grayed out (SB0240) in 'Sounds and Audio Devices' in the control panel.

- The included ProFX have serious issues: UDA is not working in the AC97 plugin,illegible pitch-black 'skin' and font corruption in the drop-down boxes for inputs after a selection is made.

geraldandreas · Sep 21, 2006, 08:58 AM

thanks to eugene

this asio-performance is unbelievable, i made some short tests and i got
1ms without pops and clicks on my lappy with a2nb and live5 and also wavelab.
i´m switch to map/irq/event (10k2) and got this latency.
but i hope the mx6 (colored)is also soon aviable for this version.
the memory for kx is 28,8mb, checked with processexplorer, the best taskmanager ever.
thanks to eugene for this very very good work, i´ll do some more tests in the next days
regards to all kx-fans
gerald

fvi · Sep 21, 2006, 02:42 PM

well, I perform a clean uninstall of 3538h, reboot, and install 3538l, reboot, and this lead to the same conclusion : I can't get 3538l to work on my DAW, at least like 3538h does. 3538l is sticked at 11ms, though 3538h work fine at 2ms ! (see my previous post for details)
It seems so far I am the only 10k1 sound card *unlucky* user (Emu-APS), is this related ?

Russ · Sep 21, 2006, 06:20 PM

3538L seems to offer the best performance thus far. I only did brief testing with 3534f, but 3538L appears to have better performance on my system.

Regarding the sync options:
It is hard to notice a difference between some of the sync options, but I think the default option probably works the best with my system.

I have only a single cpu/single core, and a 10k1 card, so only 4 of the sync options apply to my system.

'User Thread' seems to use the most CPU of the 4 options. In some instances it performs better than the rest (i.e. at the lowest latency setting), while at other times it performs the worst.

Krnl/Sleep, although it performs about the same as the other 2 (User/Sleep, User/Timer) in most cases, it is the setting that is most effected by other things going on in the system (i.e. moving windows around, adjusting sliders, etc), making it less usable.

It is hard to notice a difference between User/Sleep (the default) and User/Timer, but I think the default setting probably works best overall on my system.

CPU: AMD Athlon Thunderbird 1300 MHz.
Memory: 896 MB SDRAM
OS: Windows XP Professional SP2
HAL: Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) PC
Performance setting: Processor scheduling adjusted for Background services
Sound card: SB Live! 5.1 (SB0228)

Jimi Junior · Sep 22, 2006, 06:18 AM

As much as I would like to try the driver SX doesnt seem to find it.
No ASIO driver selectable in SX3. Had to go back to the 3537.

Any ideas amigos?

Vadim_K · Sep 24, 2006, 02:56 PM

You don't see KX ASIO available in Device Setup->VSTAudiobay ? It's strange.. I have Nuendo 3 and all works fine, and in other audioappz too. Try full KX uninstall, and install it again.

Jimi Junior · Sep 25, 2006, 09:07 AM

All is good now.
No idea what I did different this time. Uninstalled the 3537 and installed the 3538l, all worked from the start. I did clap my hands 3 times though....
ASIO performance is the same as 3537 for me although I'm not a pro at this testing like you guys.
The FX are wonderfull, this driver actualy made me look into it.

Thx for KX!!!

Doug W · Sep 25, 2006, 07:15 PM

[quote=Jimi Junior;969288]I did clap my hands 3 times though....[quote]
Are you trying to say, you didn't clap your hands before the other installations? Didn't you read the instructions?

ReWired · Sep 26, 2006, 10:05 AM

he must be excused...
this line is at the end of 234 pages install manual

imperia · Oct 3, 2006, 05:05 PM

I uninstalled kxdriver, cleared kx-registry then installed it again. I can see ASIO sound card in WaveLab but trying to select it gives: "This driver does not seem to match any hardware installed on this machine." ASIO Control Panel is not showing at all. Any ideas?

Russ · Oct 3, 2006, 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imperia

I uninstalled kxdriver, cleared kx-registry then installed it again. I can see ASIO sound card in WaveLab but trying to select it gives: "This driver does not seem to match any hardware installed on this machine." ASIO Control Panel is not showing at all. Any ideas?

Make sure that Hardware acceleration for Audio playback is set to Full acceleration.

imperia · Oct 3, 2006, 05:12 PM

i thought driver change in for me. i will check in 1 min.

edit: now working. thank you very much Russ for the fast reply

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edit2: now i have exactly the same problem as fvi. cannot make asio to work except at 44.1khz my card is:

CT4832 10k1 [b000]
PCI Information:
Device: 21102 Subsys: 80271102 ChipRev: 8
Card has MPU device
Card HAS AC97 codec
Codec name: TriTech TR A5/CT1297 TAT
3D Extension: No 3D Stereo Enhancement
Codec is 1.0 compliant
Capabilities[0] :
DAC resolutions : -16-bit-
ADC resolutions : -16-bit-
Ext Capabilities [0]:
Port: b000 Irq: 0x9(9)

CPU P4 630

Russ · Oct 3, 2006, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imperia

edit: now working. thank you very much Russ for the fast reply

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edit2: now i have exactly the same problem as fvi. cannot make asio to work except at 44.1khz my card is:

Why do you think it is the same problem as fvi? His issue seemed to be that he could not use latency settings below 11ms (in 3538L), but it did sound like it worked for him (at both 44kHz and 48kHz).

From your reply, I can only gather that it does work at 44kHz, but it doesn't work at all at 48kHz, which sounds different from fvi's problem. Are you making sure the the settings in the ASIO CP and your software match (i.e. both set to 48kHz / 16 bit)? Can you elaborate a little more on your current problem? i.e. What software are you testing with? What sync methods have your tried? Have your tried any other software?
etc.

I do not know if we will be able to help, but there more info you can provide, the better.

imperia · Oct 3, 2006, 09:09 PM

I tested using Traktor DJ Studio. When I load MP3 it starts to play but i cannot hear anything or it just freezes. eg. sound graph is not moving at all. while trying to make it work i tested several random picked settings. the only success i have made is with 44khz /default i think.

Russ · Oct 3, 2006, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imperia

I tested using Traktor DJ Studio. When I load MP3 it starts to play but i cannot hear anything or it just freezes. eg. sound graph is not moving at all. while trying to make it work i tested several random picked settings. the only success i have made is with 44khz /default i think.

I would suggest trying another program, as I there may be an issue with Traktor and kX 3538L.

imperia · Oct 3, 2006, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ

I would suggest trying another program, as I there may be an issue with Traktor and kX 3538L.

i doubt it because my problems look very similar to problems that fvi have.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fvi

Default Impossible
User / Sleep Impossible
User / Thread lots of drops out
User Timer Impossible
User / SMP-Froze the program
Krnl / Sleep Impossible
Krnl / SMP-Froze the program
MAP / Timer / Sleep no sound
MAP / Timer / Event no sound

this is the similar part. no sound or froze.

also traktor has always been pretty stable for me for all previous versions of kx.

will try later wavelab and post result.

Russ · Oct 3, 2006, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imperia

also traktor has always been pretty stable for me for all previous versions of kx.

will try later wavelab and post result.

Yes, I realize this (I know it has worked well for other people in the past), but there was another thread yesterday about problems with Traktor (using ASIO) and 3538L, so I am thinking that maybe there is an issue there (and I tried using the demo and could not get it to work either).
Traktor 3 and external mixer

Quote:

eg. sound graph is not moving at all.

According to the Traktor manual, this means that the driver is not configured correctly, which again makes me think that maybe there is an issue there (I had similair problems with the demo (when it wsn't crashing on me)).

imperia · Oct 4, 2006, 09:28 AM

It seems ASIO is working with WaveLab

48khz 16+16:
Default - 2.67ms
User/Sleep - when i select this, ASIO driver reverts to Default.
User/Thread - 1.00ms
User/Timer - 2.67ms
User/SMP - 0.67ms (pops and clicks) , 1.00ms - ok
Krnl/Sleep - 2.67ms
Krnl/SMP - 1.00ms
Map/Timer/Sleep - 2.67ms
Map/Timer/Event - 0.67ms there are still pops/clicks but better than User/SMP (this is the best so far i think)

Also before in Wavelab I was only able to listen to songs. if I pressed "Monitor Audio Input" wavelab was crashing. Now its working perfect I can record and even monitor the audio incoming. I guess ASIO driver is better now. Too bad it does not work with my lovely Traktor.

BTW: my windows process priority is not set to Background services. Setting it so can give even better results maybe.

I am switching now back to Traktor to see what is going on there

EDIT: No success with Traktor

EDIT2: OMG Post Number 100

SPYRO · Oct 15, 2006, 09:14 AM

On my machine (AMD64x2 - Audigy eX - FL Studio) the sync option "User Thread" seems to be the best one, but barely noticeable.

"Map" options (for non 10k2) doesn't work, and the "default" setting is a bad performer (as usual)

The best ones are between "User Thread" and "Krnl / SMP"

Sep 17, 2006, 09:19 PM	#1
Eugene Gavrilov kX Project Lead Programmer and Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,037 Rep Power: 56	3538l ASIO performance pls report your results with 3538l here (ASIO performance ONLY)! E.

Sep 19, 2006, 05:02 AM	#3
fvi DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Paris, France Posts: 48 Rep Power: 0	hi all, I was sticked on 3538h due to midi patch inspector working fine (I know there's a trick for later releases). I tried 3538l on 2 standard Cubase performance tests : http://www.moar.net/cubasetest/index.shtml and http://www.adkproaudio.com/benchmarks.cfm (thonex test) These tests have to be performed in 44.1khz but can be done in 48khz. At relaxed latency (23ms), 3538h and 3538l have the same performance. With the 2nd test (thonex) 3538h can handle 2.18ms (timer-based or default) 3538l can only handle 11.61ms (user/timer or defaut) I switch back to 3538h, but I may try further tests if you want. __________________ Asrock 939Dual SataII / A64 x2 @ 2600Mhz / 2Gb PC3200 / Emu APS / Kx3538h

Sep 20, 2006, 08:33 AM	#10
fvi DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Paris, France Posts: 48 Rep Power: 0	Cubase Thonex test report 3538l - 44.1Khz - latency 5.80ms : Default Impossible User / Sleep Impossible User / Thread lots of drops out User Timer Impossible User / SMP-Froze the program Krnl / Sleep Impossible Krnl / SMP-Froze the program MAP / Timer / Sleep no sound MAP / Timer / Event no sound Note0 : same result at 48khz Note1 : I didn't try 10k2 settings since I have an APS Note2 : for all settings leading to "impossible", windows task manager reports only 4% of cpu usage ! 3538h : the same test is possible at 2.80ms with default, timer or thread setting with Timer setting I can even achieve 2.18ms (95% usage) It's very strange I am the only one to have poor results. I installed 3538l over 3538h as usual and do a "reset device settings" before testing. My DAW : see my signature, standard ACPI, cubase 3.1, no extra process running __________________ Asrock 939Dual SataII / A64 x2 @ 2600Mhz / 2Gb PC3200 / Emu APS / Kx3538h

Sep 20, 2006, 12:22 PM	#11
thomasabarnes DriverHeaven Maniac Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: USA Posts: 1,315 Rep Power: 44 System Specs	fvi: Installing a newer driver over an older driver can sometimes create problems. Uninstall the kX Driver completely, then install 3538l and see what performance you get? EDIT: You may also want to follow this thread. In it Eugene says "...to make sure to reset your kX settings, since otherwize 3538l will behave unpredictably!" http://driverheaven.net/showthread.php?t=118618 __________________ May a song always touch you in a positive way. Sonar 8 Producer Edition, Vista Ultimate 64Bit, MOTU UltraLite MK3, 250 GB HDD 7200 rpm, 80 GB HDD 7200 rpm, Lite-On DVDRW LH 18A1P My Music Production: Top 40, Contemporary Christian, Pop/Rock, Decent Rap, Inspirationals, and Children Songs Last edited by thomasabarnes; Sep 20, 2006 at 01:39 PM.

Sep 20, 2006, 02:38 PM	#12
nakamichi DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 100 Rep Power: 0	This is the best release yet (for 10k2-based cards) 3534f was unusable,missing a lot of 10k2-specific important features,even though it had slightly lower ASIO latency (in default mode).On the other hand,thread mode in 3538h had the best performance (solid 1ms),but it was unusable because of constant 100% CPU usage. 3538l is different: All modes perform very similar,offering the same performance as 3538h,except for the last one: IRQ/Event (10k2). Really impressive - solid 1ms,even 0.66ms is usable for simpler projects - but this time not hogging the CPU as with the Thread mode = really low CPU usage Great release,but it has a few irritating issues: - kxmixer.exe (the system tray process) has a very large memory footprint - about 34MB or more,a lot more than the previous versions. - The audio device is grayed out (SB0240) in 'Sounds and Audio Devices' in the control panel. - The included ProFX have serious issues: UDA is not working in the AC97 plugin,illegible pitch-black 'skin' and font corruption in the drop-down boxes for inputs after a selection is made. Last edited by nakamichi; Sep 20, 2006 at 02:45 PM.

Sep 18, 2006, 11:26 PM	#2
Doug W DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Montevideo, MN USA Posts: 957 Rep Power: 0	I loaded 3538l tonight and played a test song that I recorded in nTrack. 15 tracks, using one Aux effect and 12 of the 15 tracks have effects. http://webpages.charter.net/drw46/ex...ck15tracks.jpg My elderly specs are listed in my signature. 3537 couldn't handle this song on my system 3534f played it back without pops or crackling with CPU usage above 90% 3538l played it back without pops or crackling with CPU usage around 87% I will look at the other settings in the next couple of days but initially it looks like 3538l performance is as good or better than 3534f. Thanks for all the work Eugene.

Sep 19, 2006, 07:17 AM	#5
BuzzT DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 24 Rep Power: 0	Hi, thanks Eugene for this new release. The "Double Cick" action is a cool feature. :-) [COLOR=Silver] It seems to me that 3538k was a little better than 3538l in asio performance. With my audigy2zs and an old atlhon xp 1800+ i was able to use a latency of around 10ms on "k", but "l" crackles even at around 16ms. This happens in case of more than 60% cpu-usage. [/COLOR] I really would like to know more about these different sync modes. Which one is very cpu intensive and which is not? Last edited by BuzzT; Sep 19, 2006 at 08:19 AM. Reason: Look at post #7 for updated test results.

Sep 19, 2006, 08:16 AM	#7
BuzzT DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 24 Rep Power: 0	Thanks. I just made a second test and found out that "map/irq/event (10k2)" works good for me. Please ignore my post #5 because at the first test there were some bugs on my system that caused insufficient resources (e.g. a program didn't release the memory after closing it) . Now everything works just fine on "l" at 8-10,67ms.

Sep 20, 2006, 01:51 AM	#8
Doug W DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Montevideo, MN USA Posts: 957 Rep Power: 0	Tonight I tried all the new ASIO settings using the same test song that I described above. 15 tracks with effects in 12 of the tracks plus 1 aux effect channel. Normally on this computer, I use mostly the AUX effects and maybe a couple in the individual tracks but I through this song together to see how far I could push it. OS: Xp Pro SP2 RAM: 512 MB RAM CPU: Intel PIII 800 Mhz HDD: 20G 7200RPM -40G 7200 RPM ACPI Sound cards:SB0090, Audigy 2 ZS SB0350 Video:NVidia GeForce 256 Rec. Software: nTrack Ver. 3.3 This is how the CPU usage went with the various settings: Default 90% User / Sleep 71% User / Thread 90% User Timer 65% User / SMP-Froze the program Krnl / Sleep 65-68% Krnl / SMP-Froze the program MAP / Irq / Sleep 65-68% MAP / Timer / Sleep 65-68% MAP / Irq / SMP-Froze the program MAP / Timer / Event 70% MAP / Irq / Event 70%

Sep 20, 2006, 06:29 AM	#9
JGSF DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 450 Rep Power: 0	I haven't done extensive testing, but one thing is sure: 3538l is definitely better! I can use 1ms in some apps with acpi installation and a network card working... 4ms works flawessly under those circumstances (previously I would still hear some glitches). The map/irq/event mode works great in my system. Thanks, Eugene!

Sep 21, 2006, 08:58 AM	#13
geraldandreas KX-Driver Lover Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: in the heart of EU, near vienna Posts: 239 Rep Power: 0	thanks to eugene this asio-performance is unbelievable, i made some short tests and i got 1ms without pops and clicks on my lappy with a2nb and live5 and also wavelab. i´m switch to map/irq/event (10k2) and got this latency. but i hope the mx6 (colored)is also soon aviable for this version. the memory for kx is 28,8mb, checked with processexplorer, the best taskmanager ever. thanks to eugene for this very very good work, i´ll do some more tests in the next days regards to all kx-fans gerald __________________ Gerald 1; Core2-Q9450, x38-Mobo, 2048mb, 2x SATA-HD, SB0092+LD, XP/sp3

Sep 21, 2006, 02:42 PM	#14
fvi DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Paris, France Posts: 48 Rep Power: 0	well, I perform a clean uninstall of 3538h, reboot, and install 3538l, reboot, and this lead to the same conclusion : I can't get 3538l to work on my DAW, at least like 3538h does. 3538l is sticked at 11ms, though 3538h work fine at 2ms ! (see my previous post for details) It seems so far I am the only 10k1 sound card unlucky user (Emu-APS), is this related ? __________________ Asrock 939Dual SataII / A64 x2 @ 2600Mhz / 2Gb PC3200 / Emu APS / Kx3538h

Sep 21, 2006, 06:20 PM	#15
Russ DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,836 Rep Power: 41	3538L seems to offer the best performance thus far. I only did brief testing with 3534f, but 3538L appears to have better performance on my system. Regarding the sync options: It is hard to notice a difference between some of the sync options, but I think the default option probably works the best with my system. I have only a single cpu/single core, and a 10k1 card, so only 4 of the sync options apply to my system. 'User Thread' seems to use the most CPU of the 4 options. In some instances it performs better than the rest (i.e. at the lowest latency setting), while at other times it performs the worst. Krnl/Sleep, although it performs about the same as the other 2 (User/Sleep, User/Timer) in most cases, it is the setting that is most effected by other things going on in the system (i.e. moving windows around, adjusting sliders, etc), making it less usable. It is hard to notice a difference between User/Sleep (the default) and User/Timer, but I think the default setting probably works best overall on my system. CPU: AMD Athlon Thunderbird 1300 MHz. Memory: 896 MB SDRAM OS: Windows XP Professional SP2 HAL: Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) PC Performance setting: Processor scheduling adjusted for Background services Sound card: SB Live! 5.1 (SB0228)

Sep 22, 2006, 06:18 AM	#16
Jimi Junior DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 17 Rep Power: 0	As much as I would like to try the driver SX doesnt seem to find it. No ASIO driver selectable in SX3. Had to go back to the 3537. Any ideas amigos?

Sep 24, 2006, 02:56 PM	#17
Vadim_K DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Latvia Posts: 59 Rep Power: 0	You don't see KX ASIO available in Device Setup->VSTAudiobay ? It's strange.. I have Nuendo 3 and all works fine, and in other audioappz too. Try full KX uninstall, and install it again.

Sep 25, 2006, 09:07 AM	#18
Jimi Junior DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 17 Rep Power: 0	All is good now. No idea what I did different this time. Uninstalled the 3537 and installed the 3538l, all worked from the start. I did clap my hands 3 times though.... ASIO performance is the same as 3537 for me although I'm not a pro at this testing like you guys. The FX are wonderfull, this driver actualy made me look into it. Thx for KX!!!

Sep 25, 2006, 07:15 PM	#19
Doug W DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Montevideo, MN USA Posts: 957 Rep Power: 0	[quote=Jimi Junior;969288]I did clap my hands 3 times though....[quote] Are you trying to say, you didn't clap your hands before the other installations? Didn't you read the instructions?

Sep 26, 2006, 10:05 AM	#20
ReWired DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 95 Rep Power: 0	he must be excused... this line is at the end of 234 pages install manual

Oct 3, 2006, 05:05 PM	#21
imperia DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Sofia, Bulgaria Posts: 167 Rep Power: 0	I uninstalled kxdriver, cleared kx-registry then installed it again. I can see ASIO sound card in WaveLab but trying to select it gives: "This driver does not seem to match any hardware installed on this machine." ASIO Control Panel is not showing at all. Any ideas?

Oct 3, 2006, 05:12 PM	#23
imperia DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Sofia, Bulgaria Posts: 167 Rep Power: 0	i thought driver change in for me. i will check in 1 min. edit: now working. thank you very much Russ for the fast reply ---- edit2: now i have exactly the same problem as fvi. cannot make asio to work except at 44.1khz my card is: CT4832 10k1 [b000] PCI Information: Device: 21102 Subsys: 80271102 ChipRev: 8 Card has MPU device Card HAS AC97 codec Codec name: TriTech TR A5/CT1297 TAT 3D Extension: No 3D Stereo Enhancement Codec is 1.0 compliant Capabilities[0] : DAC resolutions : -16-bit- ADC resolutions : -16-bit- Ext Capabilities [0]: Port: b000 Irq: 0x9(9) CPU P4 630 Last edited by imperia; Oct 3, 2006 at 05:56 PM.

Oct 3, 2006, 09:09 PM	#25
imperia DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Sofia, Bulgaria Posts: 167 Rep Power: 0	I tested using Traktor DJ Studio. When I load MP3 it starts to play but i cannot hear anything or it just freezes. eg. sound graph is not moving at all. while trying to make it work i tested several random picked settings. the only success i have made is with 44khz /default i think.

Oct 4, 2006, 09:28 AM	#29
imperia DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Sofia, Bulgaria Posts: 167 Rep Power: 0	It seems ASIO is working with WaveLab 48khz 16+16: Default - 2.67ms User/Sleep - when i select this, ASIO driver reverts to Default. User/Thread - 1.00ms User/Timer - 2.67ms User/SMP - 0.67ms (pops and clicks) , 1.00ms - ok Krnl/Sleep - 2.67ms Krnl/SMP - 1.00ms Map/Timer/Sleep - 2.67ms Map/Timer/Event - 0.67ms there are still pops/clicks but better than User/SMP (this is the best so far i think) Also before in Wavelab I was only able to listen to songs. if I pressed "Monitor Audio Input" wavelab was crashing. Now its working perfect I can record and even monitor the audio incoming. I guess ASIO driver is better now. Too bad it does not work with my lovely Traktor. BTW: my windows process priority is not set to Background services. Setting it so can give even better results maybe. I am switching now back to Traktor to see what is going on there EDIT: No success with Traktor EDIT2: OMG Post Number 100 Last edited by imperia; Oct 4, 2006 at 10:35 AM.

Oct 15, 2006, 09:14 AM	#30
SPYRO DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 18 Rep Power: 0	On my machine (AMD64x2 - Audigy eX - FL Studio) the sync option "User Thread" seems to be the best one, but barely noticeable. "Map" options (for non 10k2) doesn't work, and the "default" setting is a bad performer (as usual) The best ones are between "User Thread" and "Krnl / SMP"