KX configuration and Guitar Rig 2

opiren15 · Jul 7, 2006, 05:58 AM

Hello my friends:

I have a Sounblaster Live Value and i would like to ask you if can you tell me where can i find the way to configure the KX drivers for been used with Guitar Rig 2.
Thank you very much for your atention.

willi neutron · Jul 7, 2006, 06:57 AM

You want to use in stand alone mode or VST or DX?
salute you

opiren15 · Jul 7, 2006, 08:45 AM

Hello Willi !!:
Stand alone will be OK, but if you tell me too how to configure for VST with Cubase SX 3.1 (i tried http://members.home.nl/nahutec/kxtut...kxcubasesx.htm , but it is for the 1.6 version,and i cant stand it

) i will fall in love with you !!!!!!

.
Thank you for your help.

willi neutron · Jul 11, 2006, 07:42 AM

After you register your product, you need configure your asio drivers (start/all programs/Native instrument/guitar rig/)
I´m runing on sonar 5 and I worked whit cubase V32 (older version)
but only try go to tool or options and find it and configure
salute you

Danezzu · Jul 17, 2006, 07:49 AM

it's really easy.just install the drivers (i use 3537),start gr2 and in the config. screen choose sampling@48000,and then in the ASIO inputs choose wave 4 and wave 3.
it should work perfectly with a clean install drivers,no dsp change.try it out

mrvomit · Aug 1, 2006, 01:42 PM

8+8]i Can't get less than 8ms Of latency (3538j ) on asio é, that's really frustrating .

With asio [ 2+2] ,can't get lower than 4ms, but truly i have to set 5,33 ms ,
As I've noticed the sound changes a little if i set 4ms .

Is mY audiocard limit (my model 10k1) do You think?10k2 perform better maybe?

ANy tip to set at 2-3ms maybe?

jiiteepee · Aug 1, 2006, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrvomit

8+8]i Can't get less than 8ms Of latency (3538j ) on asio é, that's really frustrating .

With asio [ 2+2] ,can't get lower than 4ms, but truly i have to set 5,33 ms ,
As I've noticed the sound changes a little if i set 4ms .

Is mY audiocard limit (my model 10k1) do You think?10k2 perform better maybe?

ANy tip to set at 2-3ms maybe?

Maybe Live! cards are not very good to go low latencies (as you're asking), but maybe Asio4All is worth to try.

jiitee

Russ · Aug 1, 2006, 06:03 PM

You could try kX version 3534f, as people have reported better ASIO performance with that version of kX (but your card may not be fully supported (if at all) in that version). Beyond that, since ASIO uses the host CPU, the performance depends more upon the system and OS, then what model sound card you have. If you have not done so allready, search the internet for info on optimizing your system for audio.

mrvomit · Aug 1, 2006, 07:10 PM

done already .
Uhm I'm afraid my sb060 is not supported.i remember having various problem (win 98 at that time on my pc) before 3537.
I hope eugene will find time for analize 3534 (as he stated on the last revision) .
True is that 10k1 are less asio capable in terms of Ms latency than 10k2?

Russ · Aug 1, 2006, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrvomit

True is that 10k1 are less asio capable in terms of Ms latency than 10k2?

I am no expert, but, I do not know of any reason why they would be.

Lex Nahumury · Aug 2, 2006, 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrvomit

done already .
Uhm I'm afraid my sb060 is not supported.i remember having various problem (win 98 at that time on my pc) before 3537.
I hope eugene will find time for analize 3534 (as he stated on the last revision) .
True is that 10k1 are less asio capable in terms of Ms latency than 10k2?

1. AFAIK the SB060 is just a SBLive 5.1, so it should work fine with 3534f
2. No problem installing 3534 on XP ( neither on W98SE btw)
3. ASIO Latency performance is the same for 10k1 and 10k2.
FIY and as russ already pointed out;
Audio Latency performance of any (modern) soundcard only depends on OS and driver. Hardly on hardware and not even on CPU speed.

/Lex.

jiiteepee · Aug 2, 2006, 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lex Nahumury

1. AFAIK the SB060 is just a SBLive 5.1, so it should work fine with 3534f
2. No problem installing 3534 on XP ( neither on W98SE btw)
3. ASIO Latency performance is the same for 10k1 and 10k2.
FIY and as russ already pointed out;
Audio Latency performance of any (modern) soundcard only depends on OS and driver. Hardly on hardware and not even on CPU speed.

/Lex.

Or could it be vice versa too?

http://www.roadrec.com/S3TestLine.gif

jiitee

Lex Nahumury · Aug 2, 2006, 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jiiteepee

Or could it be vice versa too?

http://www.roadrec.com/S3TestLine.gif

jiitee

Although it's not entirely clear what that graph represents,
I'd say it shows that XP(?) + Sonar3 'eats up' so much
system bandwidth that one is forced to set one's (unknown) soundcard's
Latency setting to ~11ms when using a P3 1.4Ghz!

Still, the *minimum* possible latency of the (unknown) soundcard
is determined by OS architecture and driver in the first place.
CPU speed really doesn't change much about that.
(it helps running bloated applications, as the graph shows, but that's something else)

/Lex.

jiiteepee · Aug 2, 2006, 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lex Nahumury

Although it's not entirely clear what that graph represents,
I'd say it shows that XP(?) + Sonar3 'eats up' so much
system bandwidth that one is forced to set one's (unknown) soundcard's
Latency setting to ~11ms when using a P3 1.4Ghz!

Still, the *minimum* possible latency of the (unknown) soundcard
is determined by OS architecture and driver in the first place.
CPU speed really doesn't change much about that.
(it helps running bloated applications, as the graph shows, but that's something else)

/Lex.

Some more "Latency" : "CPU performance/usage" comparisons:

http://www.adkproaudio.com/N37-24.jpg
http://www.adkproaudio.com/Fudd3.bmp
http://www.adkproaudio.com/Sonarreams.bmp
http://www.adkproaudio.com/garysonar7-24.jpg

jiitee

mrvomit · Aug 4, 2006, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ

I am no expert, but, I do not know of any reason why they would be.

Thsnks
I've though so.
Apart for mapping ,is like that.
I Have to add ,that 5.33 ms is a bit too much for guitar.

You don hear by playng chords, but you have the sensation of the "delay" by playing speedy Riffs.
4 ms is a lot better ,though i dunno why (is really a tiny difference 1,3 ms).

I have xp OS.