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Jul 20, 2004, 09:52 AM
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Gamer's Select Your Engine
Doom 3's arrival will signify something much more exciting than the return of Doom itself. It's the day we, the gamers get to sample what ID's new engine could do. Quite possibly the most successfuly engine to date would have to be the Q3 Engine. Several developers have taken this engine and created some eye popping visuals and great games with it. It is also good to know that the Quake 3 Engine is quite flexible and even lower end machines could run games based on it with them.
So what's the engine of choice? Which engine do you think will pull off the balance of Quality/Performance best.
In my opinion, I think ID will pull of another flexible engine  Far Cry looks great, but it just demands so much.
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Jul 20, 2004, 09:58 AM
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I agree with ya there, although i do like the rest of them. 
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Jul 20, 2004, 10:00 AM
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The rest of them are good
But not all of us can run them well without more hardware power. The Unreal 2 Engine has proven that their engine isn't necessarily geared towards FPS games. Splinter Cell has proven that nicely along side with the great vehicles in UT2K4.
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Jul 20, 2004, 10:04 AM
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I just love the Unreal Engine, can read and write blindly with it but it's not the best. ID always had good engines, the quake enigine has been used extensivly but i think the HL2 will win this round because of good scaling to older hardware. Couldn't know for sure tho because i haven't seen HL2 and Doom3 in action yet. Crytek dissapointed me a bit so far, to buggie and heavy running but that could just be Farcry 
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Jul 20, 2004, 10:18 AM
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I like moddable engines, and don't have access to any of these yet, so although Doom 3 looks good, I can't make a decision on it yet.
The Phoenix engine was technically very good, but never took off, something that is shown by the fact that none of you probably heard of it.
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Jul 20, 2004, 10:19 AM
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were's the Unreal 3 Engine?
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Jul 20, 2004, 10:22 AM
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I think the battle will be won by ID's DOOM3 engine but i also believe half life2 will put up one hell of a fight, these two company's take the time to polish there work there are games already being developed using the HL2 engine thats just to show you how polish the engine is, i also have always believed crytek had a great game/engine but that it had been rushed and i also believe ubisoft had a lot to do with this since most of there games come out with something wrong AA anyone, and crytek is now having to take a long time to patch the game to get rid of these's bugs, come on a doubt that there wheren't any beta testers out there that didn't report these bugs but the game was still lauched
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Jul 20, 2004, 10:33 AM
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DH's Dormant Dragon
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ubisoft is terrible at every game..... don't get me wrong..the storyline, or the gameplay is/would be stunning if the engines and or controlls weren't built by script kiddies... terrible coders...
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Jul 20, 2004, 10:38 AM
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I like the Far Cry engine....only time will tell though on which one will deliver the best graphics IQ 
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Jul 20, 2004, 11:07 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Judas
were's the Unreal 3 Engine?
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That's way too far out there man. 
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Jul 20, 2004, 11:31 AM
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Doom 3's.
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Jul 20, 2004, 02:26 PM
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Guessing which one will dominate, i'd put my money on ID. But Valve seems to have done a terrific job too. Anything can happen.
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Jul 20, 2004, 05:00 PM
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hahah doom 3 engine. it will run better anyways  thanks to mr. openGL. the best part about hl2 i think, (although the graphics are damned good) is the physics engine. so...what they need to do is make a game with the doom3 engine, and hl2 physics!
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Jul 20, 2004, 07:02 PM
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D3 will have some serious setbacks. It can only do stencil shadows(not that impressive anymore), and is generally limited to openGL using d3d function calls. Which will slow it down a bit I imagine. Also most environments will be small and indoors.
The best thing about the D3 will be the care put into the textures and animation... which has nothing do with the engine itself. That’s all down to artistry.
Source is still kind of iffy. Best part about it is it seems to be able to take total chaos. Lots of processing power.
Unreal (3?) is still too far off to know what it can do. Looks pretty, but the most likely rendered it using a workstation.
So I'm going to have to go with far cry. They have shown they have the goods. Massive, pretty environments are a plus as well.
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Jul 20, 2004, 10:03 PM
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no, in pcgamer they said the environments in doom3 were large, and there are a couple out door parts..but i think it's too early for either of us to tell that kind of thing. the review also noted that it looked a good deal better than far cry. i also doubt that john carmack is gonna release an engine with slowed down performance.
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Jul 20, 2004, 10:30 PM
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We'll have to wait and see...
Physics are cool. But I could care less about physics. As long as they just don't evaporate because they have no physics, I'm set.
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Jul 20, 2004, 10:44 PM
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doom 3 engine for me
but the unreal engine is the MOST flexible engine i have ever seen in my life.
i mentioned in my ut2k4 review, stealth action and insane lighting effects of splinter cell pandora tomorrow, insane large environments huge explosions of ut2k4, and realism of r6 athena sword and huge distances of spiderman 2
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Jul 21, 2004, 10:45 AM
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yea, the unreal engine is amazing...the warfare version is what they license out isnt it? that's the one that's used in the tournaments.
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Jul 21, 2004, 10:56 AM
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I'm very impressed with the work that can be done with the Unreal engine. Til recently, the only major licensed engine was ID based. LithTech had some licenses too, but their titles never made it big like ID Based ones.
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Jul 21, 2004, 12:15 PM
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Looking forward to see what the Serious Sam 2 engine will do...
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Jul 21, 2004, 03:22 PM
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the NOLF engine has been liscensed a bit...but q3 and unreal are tops for that.
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Jul 21, 2004, 03:25 PM
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Quote:
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the NOLF engine has been liscensed a bit...but q3 and unreal are tops for that.
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NOLF2 was powered by LithTech  Good engine.
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Jul 21, 2004, 03:26 PM
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Doom 3 all the way baby !! half life 2? pffftttt
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Jul 21, 2004, 03:28 PM
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I haven't played Doom III or HL2, so I wouldn't know anything about the engines, I bet if I played Doom III it would be my 1st choice.
But Far Cry is my fav for now, UT2004 would be in the top 5

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Jul 21, 2004, 03:46 PM
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i havent played hl2, but i can say that even at 2 years old...the doom3 alpha is...it's just amazing.
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Jul 21, 2004, 04:02 PM
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I've experimented with all three-
So far the biggest pig performance wise has been DoomIII- even in it's alpha form, HL2 seems to deliver the best visuals with the fastest performance.. Of course Farcry looks great too- but even that requires a lot to run fast with any IQ settings maxed out... I think we'll have to wait t | |