legacy of kain defiance

***Zardon*** · Dec 24, 2003, 07:23 AM

anyone else played this yet? the graphics are so beautiful and what a fantastic looking game, ive just started it and im very impressed with the control over the awesome characters and how well coded the game is !!!

***Zardon*** · Dec 24, 2003, 10:51 AM

bored of controlling lame ass characters? sick of the same old human players with a gun or a sword, well how about controlling something who can fall from any height without damage, how about controlling something who can suck blood/souls, can wield a massive sword and jump 30 foot in the air while attacking enemies, how about controlling something who can use telekinesis to attack and throw enemies from different locations over the edge of buildings or into other enemies?

how about controlling something who can jump across massive ledges and walk through doors in mist form and take bat form to fly?

how about taking control of the mighty vampire KAIN.

***Zardon*** · Dec 24, 2003, 10:51 AM

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zerodamage · Dec 24, 2003, 11:58 AM

Wow, that game actually looks really cool. What is the game play like Zardon?

***Zardon*** · Dec 24, 2003, 12:16 PM

it plays very well, initially I was really getting irritated by the keyboard commands, as there are quite a few of them, relating to the vampires KAIN and RAPHAEL and sometimes it takes some working out which key to hit, but ive gotten used to it and im sure with a pad it would work alot better. I might hunt out my sidewinder USB MS gamepad, but I generally like keyboards, I think with this one though there might be too many to feasibly use in the heat of a battle.

Its a great game, exceptionally well coded, runs super smooth on my system at 1600x1200 with everything maxxed and 2 aa 16 quality aniso. Very refreshing to control two very powerful characters instead of the lameass guys we are normally stuck with. alot of combat combos. In some ways the graphics remind me ingame of prince of persia, just smoother with better combat.

highly recommended especially for those of you who loved bloodrayne, I love it. only comment would be the large array of keyboard commands, some people might find the control irritating. ive persevered with it because its just so damn beautiful to watch when playing !

wertret · Dec 24, 2003, 12:45 PM

OK now it's in my list

~~Optimummind~~ · Dec 24, 2003, 04:37 PM

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Originally posted by Zardon
bored of controlling lame ass characters? sick of the same old human players with a gun or a sword, well how about controlling something who can fall from any height without damage, how about controlling something who can suck blood/souls, can wield a massive sword and jump 30 foot in the air while attacking enemies, how about controlling something who can use telekinesis to attack and throw enemies from different locations over the edge of buildings or into other enemies?

how about controlling something who can jump across massive ledges and walk through doors in mist form and take bat form to fly?

how about taking control of the mighty vampire KAIN.

He sounds more like the mighty vampire Alucard.

Well, at least Alucard is good looking! That Kain is butt-ugly!

***Zardon*** · Dec 24, 2003, 04:47 PM

Markius · Dec 24, 2003, 05:29 PM

sounds/looks good! ill have to check it out!

***Zardon*** · Dec 24, 2003, 05:38 PM

this is the other vampire raphael..... he is pretty cool too, not so much brute force as Kain but he is a better jumper, has some pretty mean moves and can shift between the ethereal plane and "real life".

Asmoday · Dec 24, 2003, 05:53 PM

this really looks like an kick-ass game....seems that i'll have to consult my "special" online retailer to try this out..

jonis · Dec 24, 2003, 08:17 PM

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Originally posted by Zardon
highly recommended especially for those of you who loved bloodrayne, I love it. only comment would be the large array of keyboard commands, some people might find the control irritating. ive persevered with it because its just so damn beautiful to watch when playing !

I loved Bloodrayne, extremely looking forward to its sequel! You got me hooked for sure, my definite next buy. Thx for tip.

Skull · Dec 25, 2003, 04:27 AM

My wife bought me this for christmas and I had a go at it last night, with a few stiff whiskies in me, very good engine, runs well on the 5900 card I have. Yeah I would recommend it as well.

wertret · Dec 26, 2003, 06:47 AM

The game is fantastic, runs super smoothly but i have to complain about the ugly control system, as Zardon said sometimes you don't know what key hit to go in a certain direction, the jumping levels can be a little frustrating. I'll recommend the game of course but along with a good game pad

***Zardon*** · Dec 26, 2003, 06:57 AM

It really is a fantastic game I intend to play it more later, runs so well and gets better IMO the further you get into it - some quite challenging levels leading to much hair pulling !, ive been playing Shenmue2 on the xbox as well today, got that for xmas !

Markius · Dec 26, 2003, 07:10 AM

Shenmue 2 is a great game!! i couldnt stop playing it when i bought it! (x-box too)
you should have a good time with that one Zardon

***Zardon*** · Dec 26, 2003, 07:36 AM

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Originally posted by Markius
Shenmue 2 is a great game!! i couldnt stop playing it when i bought it! (x-box too)
you should have a good time with that one Zardon

yeah I am, I did beat the first one on the dreamcast and I totally loved it. This is one game on a console I dont pay too much attention to low res graphics - just shows how good the game is !

Markius · Dec 26, 2003, 06:53 PM

yep i played the original shenmue on the good ol' Dreamcast.....
the shenmue series is one if my faves...it would be a great shame if shenmue 3 never sees the light of day

ViRuS2k · Dec 27, 2003, 06:57 AM

yeah would have to agree its a killer game

ZARDON when you get to chapter 8 it becomes a nightmare LOL you will know what i mean when you get to VARADONS MANSION < this is the point when the gameplay get harder and stranger and Mazelike lol

also playing as RAZEL is more dificult playing as Kain is more easy becuse he does not use the spectral reilm to solve puzzles

wertret · Dec 27, 2003, 07:58 AM

Antialiasing in that game doesn't work beyond 1024x768 in my rig, i've tried official 3.10 and latest omegas, anyone having the same problem?

Murdock · Dec 28, 2003, 08:31 AM

graphich are cool, but i don't like this kind of games

***Zardon*** · Dec 28, 2003, 09:05 AM

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Originally posted by Markius
yep i played the original shenmue on the good ol' Dreamcast.....
the shenmue series is one if my faves...it would be a great shame if shenmue 3 never sees the light of day

hope they do release it, and I also wish more PC game makers would do DVD versions of games. its about time it became more widespread.

Falstaff · Dec 28, 2003, 09:54 AM

another total immersion theme. the artwork is interesting, I am trying to adapt a game engine right now and practice but it is terribly complex, gonna have to get four drives in a RAID to pull this one off or two seperate rendering machines and adapt.
Oh yeah....I like the artwork too....lol

EcPercy · Jan 2, 2004, 10:18 AM

this game looks great and I am using a logitech wingman rumblepad. I have been following the legacy of kain series since the first game on the ps1... this is a great series and the devs have done a great job tying the stories together...

the games:

Blood Omen: Legacy of Kain
Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver
Soul Reaver 2
Blood Omen 2
Legacy of Kain: Defiance

Necrosis · Jan 3, 2004, 06:39 PM

Okay I've never followed this series and the only game I've played other than this one is Soul Reaver. If you want a good laugh since I wasn't familar with this game family playing the game for the first time I thought "Damn..this sure reminds me of Soul Reaver!". I do have to say this is one of the best titles I've played in along time. However, my gamepad is being barrowed right now so I'm left with my joystick only so it gets pretty interesting to say the least! Thank god the buttons are numbered!!!

~~BMG_Cya=-~~ · Jan 8, 2004, 12:17 PM

They finally got this game at the stores in my area this week. Just got it last night.
Once you get a handle on the controls, and get used to the shifting camera, this game
kicks major ass. As always, the storyline and characters in this game are the best.

And the graphics and animation are incredible.

I'm just now starting the Raziel level where you have to beat the mist.

Love it.

Rayder · Jan 10, 2004, 12:56 AM

Just got this game last night. Lotsa fun.

Great graphics and runs very smooth at 1152x864......for some reason or other it blue-screened on me at 1280x1024 when I exited the game (even though it seemed to run fine when I was playing) so I backed it off a level.

I'm up to the beginning of Chapter 4 with Raziel. Good stuff. Runs nice with the RumblePad, but those camera angles can get quite annoying and disconcerting at times. No matter, the game more than makes up for it in sheer graphics splendor.

Dec 24, 2003, 07:23 AM	#1
*Zardon* enchanted Join Date: May 2002 Location: Driverheaven Posts: 32,259 Rep Power: 3150	legacy of kain defiance anyone else played this yet? the graphics are so beautiful and what a fantastic looking game, ive just started it and im very impressed with the control over the awesome characters and how well coded the game is !!!

Dec 24, 2003, 12:45 PM	#9
wertret Still watching... Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Orihuela (Spain) Posts: 1,560 Rep Power: 0	OK now it's in my list __________________ "They who dream by day are cognizant of many things which escape those who dream only by night."

Dec 24, 2003, 05:29 PM	#12
Markius DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 2,350 Rep Power: 0	sounds/looks good! ill have to check it out! __________________ DriverHeavens Aussie... "Lifes tragedy is that we get old too soon and wise too late"

Dec 24, 2003, 05:38 PM	#13
*Zardon* enchanted Join Date: May 2002 Location: Driverheaven Posts: 32,259 Rep Power: 3150	no console port on these textures :) this is the other vampire raphael..... he is pretty cool too, not so much brute force as Kain but he is a better jumper, has some pretty mean moves and can shift between the ethereal plane and "real life".

Dec 24, 2003, 05:53 PM	#14
Asmoday Demonic Join Date: May 2002 Location: In the cold, dark north... Posts: 5,184 Rep Power: 69 System Specs	this really looks like an kick-ass game....seems that i'll have to consult my "special" online retailer to try this out.. __________________ How You can help Driverheaven by using Digg

Dec 24, 2003, 10:51 AM	#2
*Zardon* enchanted Join Date: May 2002 Location: Driverheaven Posts: 32,259 Rep Power: 3150	bored of controlling lame ass characters? sick of the same old human players with a gun or a sword, well how about controlling something who can fall from any height without damage, how about controlling something who can suck blood/souls, can wield a massive sword and jump 30 foot in the air while attacking enemies, how about controlling something who can use telekinesis to attack and throw enemies from different locations over the edge of buildings or into other enemies? how about controlling something who can jump across massive ledges and walk through doors in mist form and take bat form to fly? how about taking control of the mighty vampire KAIN.

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Dec 24, 2003, 11:58 AM	#7
zerodamage DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 3,574 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Wow, that game actually looks really cool. What is the game play like Zardon?

Dec 24, 2003, 12:16 PM	#8
*Zardon* enchanted Join Date: May 2002 Location: Driverheaven Posts: 32,259 Rep Power: 3150	it plays very well, initially I was really getting irritated by the keyboard commands, as there are quite a few of them, relating to the vampires KAIN and RAPHAEL and sometimes it takes some working out which key to hit, but ive gotten used to it and im sure with a pad it would work alot better. I might hunt out my sidewinder USB MS gamepad, but I generally like keyboards, I think with this one though there might be too many to feasibly use in the heat of a battle. Its a great game, exceptionally well coded, runs super smooth on my system at 1600x1200 with everything maxxed and 2 aa 16 quality aniso. Very refreshing to control two very powerful characters instead of the lameass guys we are normally stuck with. alot of combat combos. In some ways the graphics remind me ingame of prince of persia, just smoother with better combat. highly recommended especially for those of you who loved bloodrayne, I love it. only comment would be the large array of keyboard commands, some people might find the control irritating. ive persevered with it because its just so damn beautiful to watch when playing !

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Dec 25, 2003, 04:27 AM	#16
Skull Boney Admin Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: somewhere over the rainbow Posts: 659 Rep Power: 43	My wife bought me this for christmas and I had a go at it last night, with a few stiff whiskies in me, very good engine, runs well on the 5900 card I have. Yeah I would recommend it as well. __________________ How you can help DriverHeaven by using Digg!

Dec 26, 2003, 06:47 AM	#17
wertret Still watching... Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Orihuela (Spain) Posts: 1,560 Rep Power: 0	The game is fantastic, runs super smoothly but i have to complain about the ugly control system, as Zardon said sometimes you don't know what key hit to go in a certain direction, the jumping levels can be a little frustrating. I'll recommend the game of course but along with a good game pad __________________ "They who dream by day are cognizant of many things which escape those who dream only by night."

Dec 26, 2003, 06:57 AM	#18
*Zardon* enchanted Join Date: May 2002 Location: Driverheaven Posts: 32,259 Rep Power: 3150	It really is a fantastic game I intend to play it more later, runs so well and gets better IMO the further you get into it - some quite challenging levels leading to much hair pulling !, ive been playing Shenmue2 on the xbox as well today, got that for xmas !

Dec 26, 2003, 07:10 AM	#19
Markius DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 2,350 Rep Power: 0	Shenmue 2 is a great game!! i couldnt stop playing it when i bought it! (x-box too) you should have a good time with that one Zardon __________________ DriverHeavens Aussie... "Lifes tragedy is that we get old too soon and wise too late"

Dec 26, 2003, 06:53 PM	#21
Markius DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 2,350 Rep Power: 0	yep i played the original shenmue on the good ol' Dreamcast..... the shenmue series is one if my faves...it would be a great shame if shenmue 3 never sees the light of day __________________ DriverHeavens Aussie... "Lifes tragedy is that we get old too soon and wise too late"

Dec 27, 2003, 06:57 AM	#22
ViRuS2k DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Uk Posts: 8,343 Rep Power: 57 System Specs	yeah would have to agree its a killer game ZARDON when you get to chapter 8 it becomes a nightmare LOL you will know what i mean when you get to VARADONS MANSION < this is the point when the gameplay get harder and stranger and Mazelike lol also playing as RAZEL is more dificult playing as Kain is more easy becuse he does not use the spectral reilm to solve puzzles

Dec 27, 2003, 07:58 AM	#23
wertret Still watching... Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Orihuela (Spain) Posts: 1,560 Rep Power: 0	Antialiasing in that game doesn't work beyond 1024x768 in my rig, i've tried official 3.10 and latest omegas, anyone having the same problem? __________________ "They who dream by day are cognizant of many things which escape those who dream only by night."

Dec 28, 2003, 08:31 AM	#24
Murdock DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: UK Posts: 325 Rep Power: 0	re graphich are cool, but i don't like this kind of games

Dec 28, 2003, 09:54 AM	#26
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 18,139 Rep Power: 131	another total immersion theme. the artwork is interesting, I am trying to adapt a game engine right now and practice but it is terribly complex, gonna have to get four drives in a RAID to pull this one off or two seperate rendering machines and adapt. Oh yeah....I like the artwork too....lol __________________ The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the scythe.

Jan 2, 2004, 10:18 AM	#27
EcPercy DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Iraq Posts: 1,529 Rep Power: 49	this game looks great and I am using a logitech wingman rumblepad. I have been following the legacy of kain series since the first game on the ps1... this is a great series and the devs have done a great job tying the stories together... the games: Blood Omen: Legacy of Kain Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver Soul Reaver 2 Blood Omen 2 Legacy of Kain: Defiance

Jan 8, 2004, 12:17 PM	#29
~~BMG_Cya=-~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 721 Rep Power: 0	They finally got this game at the stores in my area this week. Just got it last night. Once you get a handle on the controls, and get used to the shifting camera, this game kicks major ass. As always, the storyline and characters in this game are the best. And the graphics and animation are incredible. I'm just now starting the Raziel level where you have to beat the mist. Love it.

Jan 10, 2004, 12:56 AM	#30
Rayder Mostly lurking lately.... Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 2,043 Rep Power: 51	Just got this game last night. Lotsa fun. Great graphics and runs very smooth at 1152x864......for some reason or other it blue-screened on me at 1280x1024 when I exited the game (even though it seemed to run fine when I was playing) so I backed it off a level. I'm up to the beginning of Chapter 4 with Raziel. Good stuff. Runs nice with the RumblePad, but those camera angles can get quite annoying and disconcerting at times. No matter, the game more than makes up for it in sheer graphics splendor. __________________