isaak

Dedicated Servers for CoD:MW2 Petition


for anyone that feels strongly about it, sign here!

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BlueMak

u should 2 other options
i only care for single player
i don't care, this game sucks.

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RE III - Frankie

I don't see this thread being treated with any positive enthusiasm. No fyi that word is NOT a reference to exorcism, sacasm or anything else you try to put over what is actually written. Hmm just incase methinks.

isaak

In what sense do you mean no positive enthusiasm?

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RE III - Frankie

Idk if it would make a difference, but refering to a game in a thread you contributed to saying it isn't playable at all is a bit senseless in a way.

isaak

and which thread was this?

nevermind. banned...

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jasontheinsane

Mate, I think that people who are hardcore fans are probably going to have 3 computer's so they'd use a few of em for computer hosted but it ain't going to be a fantastic connection.
Honestly I think Infinity is going to upgrade this fact later on because their probably giving them a test.
The First Modern Warfare was a phenomenal success on the online gaming so they're going to see how many players move from 1 to 2 and then probably upgrade it.
That's what I think

isaak

So you think they're testing what sort of impact it would have on the community, but once this has finished they will patch it so dedicated servers will work again?

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Erroneus

What pisses me most off, is the fact that 402 (robert bowling) in September was asked if anything was changed with the MP part in the PC version, he replied with no.... and a couple of days later they decide to screw pc users over, by removing dedicated servers.

If anyone has a hard time figuring out what is the big problem with IWnet, watch these videos:
YouTube - MW2 - IWnet examined - Part 1
YouTube - MW2 - IWnet examined - Part 2

They are really good, explains it really well and list up the facts.

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comp_ali

Very nice demonstrations , thanks.

IW want to transfer PC gaming into console-like where you are charged for DLCs , no mods or custom contents , high ping ,....

I don't care for the game anyway , but it is just too stupid for them to do that for PC gaming community , just let them suffer with the low game sales and bring them down to their knees.

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"It is doubtful how DRM could reduce piracy and there no way it can boost games sales either"

isaak

Even how they opened up preorders, got a massive rush and then told gamers about the IWNet, i hope they lost a lot of orders.

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Erroneus

I have feeling a lot of people has canceled their pre order or have never ordered it. On steam top seller list, it has been at the bottom all the time, getting owned by titles like Borderlands (brilliant game), L4D2, Dragon Age, Torchlight, Cod4!!, Killing Floor and Team Fortress 2.

If PC users are looking for a great "nextgen" multiplayer game, which has dedicated server support, hold out for BF: Bad Company 2 which looks amazing and Dice has always been good to support the PC MP community.

If you really want to play MW2 single player, buy it second hand or wait for it to drop. The single player campaign is only around 6 hours, not worth the steep price Activision ask for the game.

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comp_ali

This article is nice.
Icrontic Gaming Nerd Rage: Console tax on PC version of Modern Warfare 2

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"It is doubtful how DRM could reduce piracy and there no way it can boost games sales either"

BiGBrOwNPimpsta

you know i was pretty disappointed at the move by IW, I thought maybe they have some legitmacy. Just maybe....

then I saw this and was disgusted



they should just admit that they do not want to spend the resources in creating a different port for the PC and this time around must release one for the fans which is based off the xbox. Better than blatantly lying.

edit: pic working

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BlueMak

pimpsta, no image.

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The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis
This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm Sic semper tyrannis.

BiGBrOwNPimpsta

oh what the hell it was there just before hold on let me find out

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Tyrsonswood

It shows up now man

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BlueMak

ok that pic is fraking funny.

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The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis
This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm Sic semper tyrannis.

isaak

oh dear god...

I still have to buy it though...multiplayer or not, my friends have been rubbing it in that I don't own it yet

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SeraphicSorcerer

Their thinking is they are promoting IWNET as a non-cheatable platform, similiar to vavle's anti-cheat. Which does work however it takes precious time to detect the cheats. And as there is no central admin and kick vote, then I think it's counter-productive, they ould have had it both ways, so players could choose. Seems like its a Ploy to make more money then it is to cater to their hardcore customers, but it's not going to stop their sales. in the slightest.

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isaak

COD 6 Hacks

There you go IW.


Damn it, I just can't understand why they changed it in the first place

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BlueMak

I can't understand one thing. With VAC, since there are no dedicated servers or any servers, but the whole online is done through p2p, how is VAC going to 1)detect the cheater, 2)ban the cheater, 3)update itself?
In theory it would scan some files to make sure they are identical to the clean ones?

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The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis
This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm Sic semper tyrannis.

BiGBrOwNPimpsta

my friend who tries to attack us for being PS3 fanboys (because we love mgs) is being a childish geek who pretty much likes anything being favored for the 360. my argument is its just a bs business practice of spinning it off. they should of been clear cut "guys we cannot make a new netcode for the PC version and the game will be ported off the 360 as we must make the product affordable and must meet the timeline we are given." People will cry "you are activision, you have so much moneyssss!". Let them cry then, because that is business. Better to be honest IMO, then spinoff the fact your product sucks (not that MW2 sucks, it's a great console game, the PC port could be much MORE of a product)

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Mousey

A Comparison.

Dedicated Servers
1) Admins to boot out "that damned glitcher"
2) Fair Pings
3) Third Party Content
4) Communities
5) Central Location
6) Pick and Choose what content you want (IE. Which map pack)

IWNet/Matchmaking
1) Screaming 12 year olds with nobody to boot out "that damned glitcher"
2) Schizophrenic Pings
3) Whatever content IW Decides is going on the network
4) Meet players once, never again without adding to friends and organising matches
5) Whatever location has the best ping to IWNet, Not the player.
6) You don't have the content IWNet suddenly decided that you should fork out $50 for to keep playing? Off the network you go

The reason why games such as Half Life 2 Deathmatch, Counter Strike 1.6 + Source, Team Fortress 2, Garry's Mod, Ect. Ect. are still going is because of Third Party content being made all the time and Dedicated servers where you can go when you KNOW That the admins there are cool and won't go on power trips when you kill them. Where you KNOW That the screaming 12 year olds will be slapped and globally muted, Where you KNOW who's hosting and where.

Anybody noticed that these are all valve games that are still going strong so many years after release?

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BlueMak

Not just Valve games.
Some EA games are doing fine too.

My favourite is Command and Conquer Renegade. Seven years and counting!

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The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis
This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm Sic semper tyrannis.

BiGBrOwNPimpsta

oh i have some great news about MW2 and activision servers:

I lagged out of 4 games in a row. The first one i was 4-0, I called in a UAV then got slapped around then d/c. Again next game I had 3-1, slapped around lagged out. Another game I got 4-1, knifed someone and then picked up a crate and got the predator missle. I am running for cover to start using it I get slapped around and get kicked. Next game I lag out in the LOBBY. Not once did PSN boot me, it always said server timed out and link lost to activision servers or something.

Then I got into 2 games, got 3-18 and a speed achievement, and then i forget my last score it was like almost as bad and got another speed achievement. Amazing net code. I am on the PS3 version and you can see my connection speed in my sig

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isaak

I heard from a friend of mine that an independant source had released a mod that allowed dedicated servers?

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Erroneus

Check out: YouTube - Modern Warfare 2 - Dedicated Servers

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Mourgolikos

Now that's why we need the new 5970 :P

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As for the dedicated servers i have heard that it's possible since there are lines of code within the .exe file that give that possibility, but are disabled. If this is true then enabling dedicated servers is illegal, right? (i don't remember the source, which wasn't very reliable)

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isaak

I think IW will have a hard time tracking down all the "illegal" offenders though... over 200,000 signatures on the "bring dedicated servers back" will bring alot of tweakers

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