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Old Feb 12, 2008, 12:12 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I mean that's like a concert setup, to much for a small room......i don't think even at .5 volume would anything sound right....... not sure.....
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what, u think somebody is going to spend that type of money & pay for the experise to set it up & not have it tuned for that room? i guarantee you it sounds awsome at any level.. at least till it fets to loud & you lose hearing lol.
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not nessaryly, i've seen "professional" setups that sound absalutely like crap...... just because anyone might have a certificate or degree or diploma stating that they know something, doesn't nessarly mean it.

I would have to sit there and listen to it to make any real judgement on it.... the iceing and the cake look good, but it doesn't mean it is good (specially if it's made of shit or is filled with crap)
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Man, some of you guys are nuts. That setup is awsome, and I bet nobody here would turn it down if they were offered it. While it not be "necessary", it still kicks the crap out of my setup. I'd maybe add a Devo style spaceship to the middle of the room, just to complete the effect.

Hell, I'd watch old Charlie Chaplin movies on that thing.
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cmon, are we talking "i'd take it cause it's worth a shitload" or we talking "i'd take it cause it would be the utlimate experience".... or maybe because "e-penis"

seriously, while i haven't had 6 million $ worth of stuff around me, i've had a considerable amount of power and juice, and similare setup, sounds good, when setup properly.. but still... it's utterly rediculious.....
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cmon, are we talking "i'd take it cause it's worth a shitload" or we talking "i'd take it cause it would be the utlimate experience".... or maybe because "e-penis"

seriously, while i haven't had 6 million $ worth of stuff around me, i've had a considerable amount of power and juice, and similare setup, sounds good, when setup properly.. but still... it's utterly rediculious.....
so you think that the type of pros that install the kind of equip & that kind of setup wouldnt know what the yare doing? lmao.
i agree that there are many 'pro' sellers/installers that dont know sht from personal experience(i have about 10g in my current home theater & have helped with purchase/setup advice with several of the docs at work so i know exactly what u r talking about) but these guys are on a whole other level & wouldnt be able to maintain that kind of business for that kind of clientel if they didnt have their act together at the highest level.
think 'z' had a point.
& judas, you have never, ever had a similar setup. not even one that is 1% of the value of that.
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so you think that the type of pros that install the kind of equip & that kind of setup wouldnt know what the yare doing? lmao.
i agree that there are many 'pro' sellers/installers that dont know sht from personal experience(i have about 10g in my current home theater & have helped with purchase/setup advice with several of the docs at work so i know exactly what u r talking about) but these guys are on a whole other level & wouldnt be able to maintain that kind of business for that kind of clientel if they didnt have their act together at the highest level.
think 'z' had a point.
& judas, you have never, ever had a similar setup. not even one that is 1% of the value of that.

perhaps i said that much to "in general"

there is a difference between someone going out, purchasing the equipment, getting recommended specific stuff, and putting it together themselves, OR getting a friend to put it together for them, or the slight chance that a "professional" put it all together for them. The chance remains, it could potentially be a "not so great" experience.

You'd be surprised what business have and continue to maintain the clientel that they do, we've got plenty of examples all over hell and back.... I know, i've experienced it, i don't know anyone that hasn't seen or heard or been aware of small and large businesses that manage to strangle every bit of money out of someone with poor quality, pure crap, completely unreliable and horriblely supported. But it's also baised on per person expeirences....

either way, your making quite the bold statement, pretty confident that i haven't been around and experienced a $60,000 setup...... fact of the matter is that i've been around more. Why such doubt?

I've sat, played a xbox360 (hdmi) on a system that had 4 stereo amplifiers, connected via analog to a digital 7.1 decoder, hooked up to a 67" 1080p Plasma (would have preferred lcd), Plenty of big ass speakers sitting around, i couldn't give you the estimate on the value, but i'm pretty confident that it wasn't more then 12 grand for the sound system alone..... perhaps.. i don't know... don't really care. The room it was sitting in was built into pretty much an identical mini theater.. i'd guess it to be a 15x25 foot room, and i would also guess the ceiling at around 12 or more feet high.

It was lack for a better word, overkill even in that sense.
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ok theorectially speaking. how much do you think you could build a similar sounding system judas? i think this one was 6 million right?

reckon you could for example. build one at say 1 million, walk this guy into the same room blindfolded and fool him into thinking it was the same one ?
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possibly... but i wasn't trying to make the point on dollar value... you can throw any dollar value at anyone....

It's the quality, the purpose, and application of the matter...

The simple fact of the matter is that i can't make any solid judgement on if that system would indeed be the most incredible and wanted system setup or not, not untill i experience it for myself.

No different then me spending 6 million on a computer system, sure it's all damn impressive, but it's completely beyond any logical sense other then "because i have money, i can spend it"... which is all fine and dandy, but doesn't apply to everyone obviously and doesn't nessaryly mean it's the best by any means.
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judas 1% of 6 mill is 60 thou. by your own words you havent come close. 'nuff said.
your silly statements pretty much show you dont have a clue about high end installs so pls leave it alone.
you are aware that in cases like this the companies that make the equipment are involved rt? you dont have to spend that much to get that type of service either, not even close. & you do know that that system isnt ps3 specific rt?
nobody said it was the best judas. sht, cant believe i let myself get drawn into another meaningless argument with u judas. *hits self in head*
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possibly... but i wasn't trying to make the point on dollar value... you can throw any dollar value at anyone....
What a waste of keystrokes. I wish someone would throw a few hundred bags of them at your head, to knock some semi sane sense out of you !

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All the hardware in that room is the pinnacle of quality. hence the price. Its not like he went down to the local store and bought a JBL 2:1 set of speakers and they charged him 3 million.

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The simple fact of the matter is that i can't make any solid judgement on if that system would indeed be the most incredible and wanted system setup or not, not untill i experience it for myself.
Rest assured if you heard it you would wet your pants like a little schoolgirl. Envy is not really a pleasant thing to see. This is coming from the guy who ranted in other forums that he had a 14:4 dolby setup or some such nonsense.

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sure it's all damn impressive,but it's completely beyond any logical sense other then "because i have money, i can spend it"...
To you 6 million is a mindless figure because you dont have it, it seems ludicrously insane to spend that, right? What would happen if you were a billionaire. that 6 million to you would be pocket change, so why not spend it on something which will bring endless hours of enjoyment.

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which is all fine and dandy, but doesn't apply to everyone obviously and doesn't nessaryly mean it's the best by any means.
I have no idea what on earth this even means.
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apparently i'm not making myself clear at all...

i am well aware of what 1% of 6 million is..

the fact that i personally don't have that kind of cash on hand is moot, the fact that i'm aware and know people that do, while not best of friends, but have been around, and have seen and used what they've got, is just another matter.

Scale it, it all works the same, just because a dollar or equipment size is bigger, doesn't mean anything is that much different.

I could claim assests i could claim anything, frankly i don't care, that's not the point of the discussion, and that's all this is, is a discussion, sounds like your all shooting for something else, not sure what that is but whatever.

I had setup a 10.2 system, essentially crap to anything that would have been real, but essentially simulated, matrixed to hell.... It was a toy, an experience, i mentioned it on the forums, showed it off a bit, tried to stir up discussion, (remember you brought it up, not me). Instead it turned into a flame fest, a rather disgusting turn of pure disreguard for any possibility of something working in the slightest, making up your own minds (not everyone but those few). Fully aware of the obvious that 10.2 is a little on the overboard side, my claims are valid to a point, it may not and i never did claim, true 10.2 sound, meerly simiulating it and anyone that i DID show it to, were thoroughly, extremely impressed with the way it sounded vs 5.1 or 7.1 modes. It did very well in counterstrike source at the time. Even for having and using such horrible speakers.

Now it's turned that way in this forum, quite rediculious. I'm am familare with several things, i do know that if someones going to buy a boatload of this stuff, they'd have a boxtruck/semi trailer pulling up in thier driveway to unload. You cannot deny the FACT that the possibility of it looking impressive that it could pentially sound like garbage. I'm not denying that FACT that it could pentially sound incredible in every sense of the word. But i'm state the FACT that i've seen, i've heard, PERSONALLY remotely similare system, and for the size of the room, i can and will remain standing by my own words that it is overkill, to much, even for my own tastes, baised on my own opinion.

And that's the point of my own opinion in which i've made that a few of you somehow twisted and turned around into as a fact that spreads over everyone elses.... How this came about i don't know, but emediately the few of you dwelled on "Similare systems" and called bullshit, fine, that's your own claim, i'm quite sick of having to either ignore the few of you, or to back what i've said, and the only way that anyone will budge is by providing proof, and even then, pictures, video, anything i would submit would probably result in calling photoshop, stealing the images from somewhere, or some other nonsense.

$60,000 is not alot of money, $1,000,000 is not alot of money, to me. It would be an incredible asset if i had it, but i don't have that kind of cash on hand...

And as i stated before, some people have the cash, some people don't..... spending what cash you have is your own bloody business, but that doesn't mean my own opinion doesn't have any form of justification if i look at as many angles as possible, i still haven't MADE a completely clear full on judgement, i can't.... i am not there to "experience" that system... i can only gage to what i've experienced myself.

And lastly, i will decide for myself what i find as quality. I will not be told by a review, by popular vote, or by anyone at all, i will play with the product myself, even if the product frustrates me for a month or more, i won't make a final conclusion on it for quite some time (even if i make a post that claim something is garbage, just in my own frustration)


and just to clarify, this is not ME going off topic, this is the few of you that dragged the thread of the topic.... you made it about me...... not the other way around.
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