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Dec 24, 2006, 04:38 PM
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What Is The Best Joystick For Flight Simulator X?
crimbo is tomorrow and i have accidentaly  been told that one of my pressies is Flight Simulator X Deluxe Edition which i can't wait to install and play.
for some time i've been thinking to add a joystick with my DFP and now that i have been told that i'm getting FSX it gives me even more reason to get one but i could do with some help in what joystick to choose.
From looking around the best joystick is the Saitek X52 - this joystick looks brilliant but its £66 (cheapest i can find it, without the rudder pedals).
So what others are good for gaming especially for FSX, the others that i can see are the Logitech Force 3D Pro and the Saitek Cyborg Evo Force but which is best, are there any others which are better or can anyone find the Saitek X52 at a cheaper price.
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Merry Christmas
Cube623
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Dec 25, 2006, 10:05 AM
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Go for the X52...you won't be dissappointed. It's WELL worth the money. I use it in FS9, FSX, and IL2F. Great 'feel', and more programming options than you need.
If you decide that you want rudder pedels later, you can 'lock' the twist on the stick.
I've used the MS Precision Pro (which some claim is the 'best ever') and the Logitech Freedom 2.4, and the X52 beats those hands down.
Saitek will be releasing the new X52 Pro in January which has even more features, but I'm not convinced that it's worth the $150.00 or so that they will be asking for it.
EDIT: I see that your system is almost identical to mine. Noting that I must advise you that you aren't going to be able to run FSX at anywhere near max IQ settings. I'd suggest tht you srart at MED LOW, and make sure that you have NO. or very little AUTO GEN selected. For the MSFS series a lower CONSTANT frame rate is preferable to a higher frame rate that jumps up and down.
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Last edited by OldBuzzard; Dec 25, 2006 at 10:12 AM.
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Dec 26, 2006, 06:41 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OldBuzzard
Go for the X52...you won't be dissappointed. It's WELL worth the money. I use it in FS9, FSX, and IL2F. Great 'feel', and more programming options than you need.
If you decide that you want rudder pedels later, you can 'lock' the twist on the stick.
I've used the MS Precision Pro (which some claim is the 'best ever') and the Logitech Freedom 2.4, and the X52 beats those hands down.
Saitek will be releasing the new X52 Pro in January which has even more features, but I'm not convinced that it's worth the $150.00 or so that they will be asking for it.
EDIT: I see that your system is almost identical to mine. Noting that I must advise you that you aren't going to be able to run FSX at anywhere near max IQ settings. I'd suggest tht you srart at MED LOW, and make sure that you have NO. or very little AUTO GEN selected. For the MSFS series a lower CONSTANT frame rate is preferable to a higher frame rate that jumps up and down.
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well ive been increasingly tempted by the x52 so i may buy it but it'll depend on the cash flow
i've installed FSX and it seems to be running ok at med settings, defenatly a demanding game
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Dec 26, 2006, 02:01 PM
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You may want to wait until after the X52 Pro is released tho. The price of the original X52's may drop when that happens 
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Dec 26, 2006, 06:15 PM
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I'm currently using the Cyborg Evo and I must say it's a great joystick for its price. Way better than the Logitech Force 3D....
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Dec 27, 2006, 09:30 AM
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So the Cyborg is better than Logitech's 3D pro?
I'm now in a quandry about do i get the Cyborg Force or the X52 because the X52 is double the price of the Cyborg Force! but as OldBuzzard says once the X52 Pro is released the X52 will tumble in price
but if you ask me the X52 Pro doesn't look very nice compaired to the X52
X52
and the X52 Pro

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Dec 27, 2006, 12:32 PM
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the second looks more professional
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Dec 27, 2006, 01:21 PM
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I prefer the looks of the pro due to the less lights. Lights in your face=not good.
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Dec 27, 2006, 09:43 PM
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You can change the intensity of the lights, or turn them off completely if you wish. I generally keep my intensity set to low and I never notice them while I'm flying.
As I understand it, the Pro will offer a choice of light colors, whilst the original has only Blue.
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Mar 27, 2008, 02:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cube623
crimbo is tomorrow and i have accidentaly  been told that one of my pressies is Flight Simulator X Deluxe Edition which i can't wait to install and play.
for some time i've been thinking to add a joystick with my DFP and now that i have been told that i'm getting FSX it gives me even more reason to get one but i could do with some help in what joystick to choose.
From looking around the best joystick is the Saitek X52 - this joystick looks brilliant but its £66 (cheapest i can find it, without the rudder pedals).
So what others are good for gaming especially for FSX, the others that i can see are the Logitech Force 3D Pro and the Saitek Cyborg Evo Force but which is best, are there any others which are better or can anyone find the Saitek X52 at a cheaper price.
Cheers
Merry Christmas
Cube623
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hi, im very new to all of this simulation thing, can you tell me anything about the T-Flight Stick X from Thrustmaster and does any of the X52 sticks have force-feedback along with the T-Flight Stick?
Thanks.
Shannon.
from London.
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Mar 27, 2008, 07:35 PM
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i think the pro looks far better myself 
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Mar 27, 2008, 09:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shannon007
hi, im very new to all of this simulation thing, can you tell me anything about the T-Flight Stick X from Thrustmaster and does any of the X52 sticks have force-feedback along with the T-Flight Stick?
Thanks.
Shannon.
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I haven't seen anything on the T-Flight, but then again, it's new. From looking at it and the specs it doesn't seem to be too bad, but nothing that's going to set the Flight Sim World on fire. It's main claim to fame is that it works on the PS3 as well as on a PC.
Neither it, nor the X-52 are force feedback. However, I personally don't see that as a problem. I've used a FF stick, and from my perspective, they are over-rated. As former owner of a Cessna 140, and having a lot of hours in other small aircraft, I gotta say that FF sticks aren't really as realistic as some would have you believe. Also, with a FF stick, there is just that much more that can go wrong with it.
I've used a number of sticks over the years, and the X-52 is the best I've had yet, and with the addition of the Saitek rudder pedels, I think I have the ideal combination for Combat flight simming. Now if you were going to be doing nothing but Civilian simming, and flying nothing but modern aircraft that use a yoke and not a stick, and want to be more 'realist' then you would want to look at a yoke controller. I've never used a yoke for simming, so I'm really not qualified to give a recommendation on one of those.
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Koolance EXOS2 cooling the CPU & GPU
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