FARCRY 64bit COMPLETELY fragged

ptsigas

Ok i got my cpu up and running with win64bit. all drivers are installed including direct x 9c (august) for 64bit.

I play oblivion with no problems, fear, condemned with no issues whatsoever.

now i installed a fresh install of FARCRY.

i did not patch it at all.

I installed the 64BIT UPGRADE patch for it which was the first patch i had to install. all other patched 1.33 is 32bit.
then i installed the ECU patch which contains all of the goodies and visuals i wanted.

-i play the game- first- it takes roughly 3-4 min to load the game. oblivion takes 10 seconds..not even.

-then when i get into the menu it stalls every 10 seconds for half a second..as if the graphics were resetting or something.

- i saw the intro..no problems..but when i looked outside the visuals were amazing..but..the floral/birds/water and pretty much anything that moves would "reset" or "loop" its animations. i mean the game would stall for a brief 0.5 seconds every minute.

-when i ran into enemies this is where the real crazyness began- the enemies would freeze while ducking and move around and yell "hes there" - i would not be able to shoot.

i ran to a box and pushed it into the water...it floated then after 3 seconds the sound of the splash was heard...ugh.


this is very very annoying. this game ran amazing on my 2800 amd, 9800pro vid card..now its just totally screwed up.


system specs
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amd athlon 4400 x2 2.2ghz
ati radeon 1900xt 512mb
1gb pc 3200 generic ram
xpress 3200 a8r32 mvp deluxe motherboard

cool and quiett is disabled..i tried running the game on the lowest..most ugly graphics possible..still same problems..

anyone who can help? thanks in advance - game on!

im going to try running it again. change some other options around.

ptsigas

ok..well..the problem was somewhat resolved. i didnt know this but when the 64bit version is installed a folder called bin64 is created within farcry folders..i had to load the game with this 64bit exe.

the game loads better- but i still have the lag when i try and shoot an enemy. the enemies now move..but i still have problems shooting.

im reading this tweaking guide manual for this problem..hopefully i can resolve this because if i cannot shoot at times...well im dead hehe

game on!

and for anyone having this problem - if you install farcry, you can only install 2 patches. the amd 64 bit patches. all of the others are 32bit!

Sobek

Have you tried setting Affinity to one CPU in task manager while Far Cry is running? (do you know how to do that?)

ptsigas

well i just gave up after a few hours of messing around with this bs.

i did the affinity method- nothing. i have all amd cpu updates, optimizers etc- nothing.

all drivers up2date did squat. i mean game doesnt stutter or nothing. i cant shoot, the enemies float around with stuck animations. good thing i bought this game 2 years ago and beat it. because holy crap i would be so mad right now lol

my final idea was to install it with no 64 bit no patches nothing- mabye 1.33 not 1.32 ...

now time to get vampire bloodlines running...oh god..if all of this fails..good thing oblivion runs and kicks ass!

anyways game on- thanks for the reply.

**im wondering if i need to actually install 1.33 first THEN the 64 bit stuff? ugh..it looks amazing on it. but this animation garbage is really annoying!

Judas

that game as far as i can tell, is a nightmare code wise.

ptsigas

ugh if not even Judas can help on this matter then all is lost tis a good thing i beat this game way back in 04..was awesome..i might try and install it with no patches. but hey this is nowhere near as bad as VAMPIRE BLOODLINES holy moly gravity guns! that game is totally messed up lol

anyways game on!!! Halflife is the way!!

Judas

The only thing i can suggest is try each patch seperately..

basically remove the game and all files..

the install the game, and try each one step at a time..

for example:

install game, play test, trial
install first available patch, player/test/trial
install 2nd patch, play/test/trial.

Do a few google searches on it..

Farcry is one of the most buggy games i'm aware of that has a habit of for whatever reason, not likeing anything suddenly.

ptsigas

yes basically that is the only way i can do it right now.

i got allof the patches. so im going to play with pre patching. see what happens. then im going to install the 1.3 1.31 1.33 (1.32 not needed) and try all of them seperate liek ya said.

then if all goes well i will try the 64bit stuff!

oh also i read in a forum (believe me i have been reading alot about this) that HDR and AA cannot be run the same time..i didnt even look in options for HDR (how noob of me)- ugh.

so i will look for that when i get to that stage. right now- one step at a time.

i seriously wanna beat this game again i really enjoyed it!!!

thansk again ill keep a post for anyone taht cares lol - hopefully might be able to give some input to help others!

-Game On- - yo Judas you defintely played metal gear havent ya? (just have a feeling ya do!) thanks buddy big big help y'ave been

ptsigas

ok i played the game with no patch...it didnt even run lol - so i installed a no cd thing- worked great (this is retail by the way) - so i played with the crack and the game still did the reset animation thing.. the enemies froze again- but not as much. i believe what the problem is that there is a memory problem. i mean- the game looks great, runs smooth..but the floral, the water seems to reset. so i figure its the ram. i also believe the cpu is too fast for the 32bit version. thats what it appears by the naked eye. well im trying the newer patch now 1.3 so ill see how that goes.

ptsigas

alrighty, 1.33 did nothing either- the game still runs with the annoying animation glitch. and now i got some texture corruptions ie- when i shoot an enemy..shot marks appear..they get black textures on the model and then it turns red and the shots reappear..well this is just very annoying. i could really give two S***S now how this game looks and feels.

all of these problems for this game are not worth the time anymore. wasted some good oblivion time dammit!!

well the only other thing now is to install the last two patches the big ones, the 64bit junk- mabye just mabye- but this is my final last attempt im really sick and tired of this now.

same thing with vampire bloodlines..what a crappy build! so many issues..holy. hl=no issues (ever!!!! never had any) - fear, condmned and a lot of other games...but these two games have seroiusly ticked me off.

hopefully crytek doesnt Frag up on crysis- stupid issues like this one. an issue where the only solution is running it on an older system..

anyways end of Vent. game on!- thanks again everyone with the input i really appreciated it alot!

ptsigas

well there was one option i was thinking..mayhaps reinstalling direct 9c- but not the august release? mabye there is a prob with that ? but i still havent tried the 64bit patches for farcry yet (this time i installed all of the 32bit patches..mabye i had to from the getgo..but it didnt say that in the instructions but who cares-its all messed anyways lol).

i shall not give up dammit!! game on- think there is a point of getting a 32bit directx installed? or just stick with 64bit direct x?

Judas

both 32 and 64 bit direct Xs are installed at the same time, if you go to RUN and type in:

dxdiag

you'll notice that the first one is 32bit DirectX and you'll have an option to run the 64bit version.

ptsigas

ok with all of the patches 1.1,1.3,1.33 installed i set affinity to cpu 1 and gave it a whirl. it ran very nicely, plus i installed cat 6.8 64bit! so things are cool FINALLY it DID have its stall but this time it was very quick - but no animation lock ups or nothing- when it did its stall it was .5 secs, also i wasnt able to shoot..but then i did. so i believe it was just the 64bit issue- running it on 64bit should be much better. but overall dammit i can finally enjoy it again! so im going to try the 64 bit content now- and see what happens.

big thanks to everyone- Judas- huge ginormous thanks( without your expertise id be frigging doing work aroudn the house and not game!) bud- Game On!

Judas

glad you got farcry working.. imo, ut2004 and halflife 2 shows some pretty nice advantages with 64bit mode.

ptsigas

yeah facry is fine now- but i cannot even run my mp3 player device manager or musicmatch! plus i tested Vampire bloondlines...forget about it!!

also sims 2 is completely messed up..sound is screwed (skips on and off) also the same wierd animations as of prey..so you know what? i believe its time for 32bit xp to come back on the scene!

i mean i compared the pros and cons of 64bit vs 32bit enviroment and, for me, the cons outweigh the pros. i would rather wait for vista atleast and right now enjoy my older games via 32bit!

1.yes 64bit= faster load times less waiting


but i cannot use my soundcard, which is WAY better than my onboard, because its not 64bit compatible (last driver update was dec 02!)

also this graphic issues with farcry and sims2.

plus the utter bs of having problems with drivers for my player (gonna try and use media player 10 for music transfers)

yeah i dont know right now..64bit for me anyways has not seemed worth the transition.
i mean yes it is very fast but what is a fast car with no breaks? - im not generalizing this experience for everyone else either- other people are ahving a blast..but me- nah, ill wait fir vista and revert back to 32bit! but thanks again man it was quite the journey!

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-Game On-

Judas

Hey could you post your specs again?

I've never had a problem with sims 2 or vampire bloodlines..

Course i always toss the CD and use a Crack because frankly, these cd checks and cracks cause more problems to the extent of pretty much making it impossible to even play the game.

I'm curious about your sound card though, sounds like it's more of the culprit then anything.

BTW, i'd recommend leaving x64 working, but install xp 32bit alongside it. This way you can for trials sake, jump on x64 and perhaps install new drivers to see what your current setup will act like.

ptsigas

SPECS
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Amd Athlon x2 4400 dual core processor @2.2ghz 1MB cache
Asus a8r32 mvp deluxe motherboard
Ati Radeon 1900xt crossfire ready videocard 512mb
1gb ddr pc3200 (generic ram)
Sb pci 128bit soundcard (4 yrs old now-i cannot install it but i have it in my motherboard physically)
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all drivers were installed accordingly, all updates as well. everything i installed was also 64bit.
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when i try and install musicmatch and or device manager for my mp3 player i cant because it saysi need winxp32bit sp1 and higher
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-ok so i should create a partition and installed winxp 32bit on it? do i just boot winxp32 then install it on the new partition? will winxp 64 be the main OS still? well ill google this, but i didnt know you could have two different enviroments running side by side!

i DID not format or anything. now by installing the os on another partition should i installed ALL 32bit drivers on that other partition?

i rreeeeeaaallly dont want to format so any isnight on this matter is greatly appreciated, but i will google this myself to find out as well!

the soundcard i dont have installed with drivers because no driver is 64bit ready.

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games messed up so far
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-FARCRY (no matter which patch i have, affinity set to 1 core, compatible mode - nothing works the best)

-sims 2 - similar behaviour as Farcry- also sound is really messed up. plays on and off every 2-6 seconds.... there are animation delays like in farcry- set affinity to 1 core- did nothing. patched it- nothing.

-vampires- runs..but it freezes for 20sc every min..its really really annoying-

i run farcry with a no cd crack- it helps a bit but nothing concrete.
ill try vampires as well and sims 2
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i think its the realtek junk personally- and the 64bit matter..but yeah i would like to install winxp 32bit on another partition and see what happens.


thanks Judas

Judas

This is how it works,

You can install windows XP 32bit on the same partition as windows x64, but i wouldn't recommend it.

Just create another partition, and then pop in the windows cd and boot from it.

when it asks where you'd like to install it, create the partition you wish if not already created, and then install TO that partition.

What happens is the boot files will be setup into the main partition (probably your windows x64 partition), and what'll happen is, when you startup your machine, be default, a screen will popup in which you can select either of the 2 (or more) versions of windows.

Right now i've got x64 and xp 32bit install side by side on 2 different partitions, the boot partition is C drive where x64 resides, and the xp 32bit is on G drive all by itself. When i startup, i've by default, windows x64 is selected and will boot within 20 seconds to x64, However you can change this so that whichever version of windows you want will be first, and you can adjust how quickly it'll boot (i've got mine set to 3 seconds so i can walk away from the machine and not waist 20 seconds at a boot loader)

Just whatever you do, don't delete/format the partition in which the boot files are located, or you'll run into a problem of not being able to boot to the uneffected version of windows.

It's very easy and quite handy if you want to see if an x64 bug is occuring or fixed, and if it applies to xp 32bit or not.

OR even better, if you want to say install multiple copies of the same version of windows, so you can have a "This is my my test version of windows in which i don't a crap what happens to it" and another is "this is my games windows, only games and no programs " and lastly, another with "This is my work version of windows, no games no garbage"

ptsigas

thats Fing wicked dude! now because the other partition will have 32bit..i should install 32bit drivers for THAT partition right? it will be pretty much like another "computer"?

Judas

yeah 32bit drivers for the 32bit windows.. and 64 for 64...

both will be completely independant.

ptsigas

nice..damn, i love computers!