ok who HATES SOUNDBLASTER LIVE CARDS?

***Zardon*** · May 8, 2002, 07:37 PM

cause I do

XP driver support? !!!!!! stabillity!!!!!!!

Mize · May 8, 2002, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zardon
cause I do

XP driver support? !!!!!! stabillity!!!!!!!

Ahh...the trials and tribulations of my *&%! Audigy! Turned out to be bad hardware if you can believe it. Certainly the last Creative product I'll own. Meanwhile my Aureal/Diamond Vortex2 is still chugging away...haven't installed XP on that machine yet, but it runs under both Me and Linux just fine.

Mize

***Zardon*** · May 8, 2002, 08:09 PM

well im still running my pci128 SB and its great, but those Live cards, I really do hate creative for making them, the problems they have caused on XP installations isnt even funny !

and on a certain model they wanted to charge customers a price to supply a CD with XP drivers, and not EVEN give the option to let people download them.

customer care????

I think not !!!

Darksider · May 8, 2002, 08:25 PM

I hate my Live! card. It is the biggest POS in my computer. The XP drivers are terrible!

Renegade[CSR] · May 8, 2002, 08:40 PM

The Audigy is a great card. Its a shame it didn't work out for you Mize

Jeff · May 8, 2002, 09:00 PM

I love my Audigy....MMMM....Firewire. I still have a PCI128 too though its good for 2000 and XP.

brc64 · May 8, 2002, 09:09 PM

I shall point you to two different threads at Rage3D that might make you change your opinion slightly of SB Live cards in XP.

http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthre...eadid=33616388
and
http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthre...eadid=33616272

I agree they're not perfect, but this new driver/software combo has definitely breathed new life into these sound cards.

[Edit]Apparently "Automatically parse URLs" doesn't work?[/Edit]

- Me

Jeff · May 8, 2002, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by brc64
I shall point you to two different threads at Rage3D that might make you change your opinion slightly of SB Live cards in XP.

http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthre...eadid=33616388
and
http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthre...eadid=33616272

I agree they're not perfect, but this new driver/software combo has definitely breathed new life into these sound cards.

[Edit]Apparently "Automatically parse URLs" doesn't work?[/Edit]

- Me

Actually it worked for me.

brc64 · May 8, 2002, 09:35 PM

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Originally posted by Cyborg
Actually it worked for me.

The URLs? I manually added the tags after previewing my post and seeing that they weren't parsed. It could just be that they don't get parsed until you actually post (and not when you preview), but I don't like editing posts, so I just did it manually.

- Me

peroni · May 9, 2002, 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zardon
...and on a certain model they wanted to charge customers a price to supply a CD with XP drivers, and not EVEN give the option to let people download them.

customer care???? I think not !!!

Eh eh, if you check out the creative newsgroup you'll see how many people are completely mad at them.
I also spent hours installing all kind of drivers

until I managed to sell my SBlive and buy an Hercules Fortissimo II.
I couldn't be happier now!

SBlive+XP=crapola

Althornin · May 9, 2002, 01:37 AM

Oddly enough, my Audigy and fresh XP install went off without a hitch, zero problems.
I think some problems are PEBCAK errors - others are actual card problems.

I have had no problems with either my SBlive or audigy, and both are running on VIA chipset mobos. There goes that myth...

Mize · May 9, 2002, 04:10 AM

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Originally posted by Renegade[CSR]
The Audigy is a great card. Its a shame it didn't work out for you Mize

Oh it DID work out in the end...had to beg and plead for the RMA, but the replacement card works fine. I suppose I could have killed the first one with a high FSB, but I only ran it up to 145. The replacement is running fine, but I'm using the 1/5 PCI divisor on my XP333-R with the FSB at 185 so it's basically stock clock. I had the original card in my KR7A which had no 1/5.

Mize

Motoki · May 9, 2002, 04:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mize

Ahh...the trials and tribulations of my *&%! Audigy! Turned out to be bad hardware if you can believe it. Certainly the last Creative product I'll own. Meanwhile my Aureal/Diamond Vortex2 is still chugging away...haven't installed XP on that machine yet, but it runs under both Me and Linux just fine.

Mize

It will work but may have some issues. Don't download the newer drivers for it on Windows Update (those disable 3d sound in hardware ugh), just keep the ones that come with XP. Also while you can get sound out of four speakers, it's really only 2 channel sound doubled up and not true 4 channel.

That's another thing you can thank Creative Labs for, bankrupting Aureal with their silly lawsuit which they lost and probably had no intention of winning in the first place. They just wanted to drive a small company with a better competing product out of business. So then they go and by them out and just sit on the A3D technology instead continuing to promote their inferior EAX instead. Whatever.

I manage with my Diamond MX 300 for now, but I really want to get a Turtle Beach Santa Cruz at some point.

Necrosis · May 9, 2002, 04:37 AM

I have a SB Audigy which I am "okay" with..but I would let to get my hands on a SoundSystem DMX 6fire 24/96 by TerraTec.

http://www.terratec.net/ttus/default.htm

drool..

Vaporizer · May 9, 2002, 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zardon
and on a certain model they wanted to charge customers a price to supply a CD with XP drivers, and not EVEN give the option to let people download them.

customer care???? I think not !!!

jeez, that just sick..... very sick.

Darksider · May 9, 2002, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by brc64
I shall point you to two different threads at Rage3D that might make you change your opinion slightly of SB Live cards in XP.

http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthre...eadid=33616388
and
http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthre...eadid=33616272

I agree they're not perfect, but this new driver/software combo has definitely breathed new life into these sound cards.

[Edit]Apparently "Automatically parse URLs" doesn't work?[/Edit]

- Me

I got those drivers. After I installed them, I had to turn my speakers to max to even hear anything. I did the driver only installation.

Yeti · May 9, 2002, 04:05 PM

Hmm... This is completely off topic.

But since we are on the sound blaster issue:
What the hell is the SB512 ???!!!

I have to admit i am with the PCI128 crowd. I have my sound routed through a stereo...with a good cable and the amplification turned down to zero... you can really get some high quality sound. Although i imagin all the audiophiles in the room are screaming blasphemy....

michael_saxon · May 9, 2002, 04:18 PM

I also had the Audigy Platinum and I never could get it to work with my KG7 RAID. Apparently, something to do with ACPI and the Creative card's firmware.

This was my last straw with Creative. The straw before that was their decision to pull their drivers off of the website and make you "order" them on disc.

Crap... Crap... Crap...

Looks like I'll be sticking with good old Acoustic Edge until someone comes along with something that is better and ISN'T CREATIVE.

curiophile · May 9, 2002, 04:30 PM

I had an Audigy for a day, took it back that night

The stupid firewire connection would make a network connection that would conflict with my cable internet. Firewire is a great idea for that card, too bad it conflicted though.

I have a Turtle Beach Santa Cruz now that runs great

erg haulage · May 9, 2002, 05:05 PM

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~~WyreTheWolf~~ · May 10, 2002, 08:07 AM

If it says Creative anywhere on it... you know it sucks.

Just for shiznits, and giggles, I wrote creative on the little sticker on my Radeon 7500, and it crashed! I pulled the sticker off, and it ran like a champ ... so

reno · May 10, 2002, 11:13 AM

Have any of you actually heard the audigy, performing like it should, full surround 5.1 klipsch speakers, in Morrowind? I think you would all drop on your knees the first time you walked into a tomb and were surrounded by devilish whispers and moans coming at you at varying intensities and distances...not to mention DVD's using powerDVD xp and DTS or Dolby Digital...watch duel of the fates ONCE on the phantom menace DVD, crank it, and enjoy...that is true audio bliss.

***Zardon*** · May 10, 2002, 12:25 PM

that card certainly gets alot of attention and praise, and yes it certainly performs well.

Majin Paul · May 10, 2002, 05:23 PM

I have an ECS K7S5A and I had nothing but trouble with it when I had a Live! installed, my LAN kept getting messed up. I said screw Creative, I went to a local EB and bought a Santa Cruz for $120 CDN. Not one regret since. Everything is working on my computer flawlessly.

Go Turtle Beach!

ECS K7S5A
Athlon XP 1600+ @ 1400Mhz
512 Mb Micron PC2100 @ CAS 2
Retail Radeon 8500 (275, 550Mhz) 64Mb
Turtle Beach Santa Cruz
20Gb Maxtor 7200rpm
Onboard LAN

Frodo301 · May 10, 2002, 08:35 PM

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Originally posted by Mize
Meanwhile my Aureal/Diamond Vortex2 is still chugging away...haven't installed XP on that machine yet, but it runs under both Me and Linux just fine.

Mize

I love my Diamond Vortex2 card. Still running strong after all these years in another machine and I have no problems, even with apps or games that claim problems.