NEW:'Analog' Synth (DSP-instrument)

Lex Nahumury

Understood, I'll compile latest automated version in 3537.

/LeMury

Tril

There is an option in windows to disable automatic reboot.
Windows key + pause, advanced and click on the correct button. I don't know the english name of that button as I have the french version of windows. There should be an option called automatic reboot. Disable it. It won't help avoid blue screens but at least you will be able to read the message. I had one of those blue screen before but it only happened once. I was never able to make it occur again.


Lemury, good work on your synth. It sounds great. I won't use it as I'm don't play music but I look forward to hearing music made by others using your synth.

trevbushell

lemury- thanx yes, that helps, i was using midiox, thinking it was midiyoke and couldnt work it out!! I've now got midi yoke and it all works fine now.

tril- thnx, have switched auto reboot off and i'll test it and paste results
trev


edit- hmm, its ok now, no blue screen when i open cubase with the synth open in dsp!- since i did a reinstall of kx (kx wasnt accepting downloaded plugins, but since reinstall its now ok)


edit- lemury, btw, nice drums on your "bass" synth example on the begining of this thread, (I'm a drummer and appreciated the flams,groove etc.. nice) did you play them in or programme them or were they a loop? nice bass riff too btw!

trev

trevbushell

lemury- not sure if youre interested .. but I've done a bit of testing and there definatly is a problem when you have the Asynth opened up in dsp and then open cubase (the midi in port has to be activated in order for the problem to happen!)


every time i open up cubase sx 2 with asynth activated, i get a blue screen of death and it says that the problem 'may be' due to the kx.sys file.

obviuosly the way to stop this from happening is NOT to have the synth loaded when you go into cubase, so its not really a problem, just need to be aware of it and work around it, but wondered if you were interested?
trev

DK-1

This Synth Is Greattttt. It seems to work well on my system. I recorded a Track in Cubase SX using the MoogBass. I recorded the bass track along with drums that I already laid. Sounds great. Can more than one channel be used at a time? By that I mean can I record a bass, then come back on another channel and record a string using Asynth? How would I do this if it is possible. My system is a P4 1.4 Ghz 512 mg of ram Soundblaster 5.1 SB0102.

Thanks for the great work

DK-1

Also, I opened Cubase SX 2 with the Synth activated and did not get blue screen. All seemed fine. I'm using KX 3537. Don't know if this helps.

Lex Nahumury

All drums are played live on my TD5 trapkit and edited afterwards.

- First (rock/soul ballad) tune at the end of the preset riffs;
live drum, no quantize, no edits
- Second (musak/jazz) tune;
live drum, quantized, edited, copy&paste
- Third (uptempo groove) tune;
live drum, heavely quantized, lots of edits, copy&paste the best parts.

I never use drum loops cause they almost never 'fit' the song structure.
Lack of fills, tempo stretch issues etc. etc.
To get a programmed drum track to 'sound right' is often more work for me
then to play the parts live and edit out the errors afterwards.
Hmm,..So far I haven't been able to reproduce this problem.
Anyway, I'll keep an eye on this one.
Thanks for reporting!

/LeMury

Lex Nahumury

Yes of course.
But an even better way is to load more then 1 asynth,
assign each instance to a different midi channel,
do you 'thang' in you sequencer and record the whole thing.
This is called a 'multi timbral' setup.

/LeMury

Lex Nahumury

Yes it helps. Thanks!

/LeMury

Lex Nahumury

@ trevbushell:
This might be related;
In Cubase->Device Setup, make sure you deactivate all MIDI YOKE inputs..!!

This avoids possible 'midi feedback' which can bring a system down.

/LeMury

DK-1

LeMury,

Thanks for the reply! How would I set up a multi timbral setup in the DSP what would I connect the synth to. I understand setting each instance to a separate channel, but I'm not sure how I would connect Asynth in the DSP to use multiple channels. Thanks Again for A great Synth. One more thing is it true that Asynth should use no CPU since it is running from the card?

TravelRec.

Each Asynth instance you open in the DSP acts as an own sound generator. Wire each ASynth to the different mixer channels. Then select on each single Asynth a different MIDI input (MidiYoke-Channel). In your sequencer select on different tracks different MIDI outputs, corresponding to the connected ASynths. So each ASynth get´s its own signal and you can play all of them together in an orchestra . With different MIDI-routings it´s also possible to play 2 or more synths on one MIDI output device with different sound to fattening the output signal (please don´t blow up your boxes ). Play around a bit!


@ LeMury: 3537 version available for testing?!? (and finally recording)

Lex Nahumury

Yep, all DSP-Instruments (ASynth, DrawbarOrgan, Tiger's Synth) run in hardware.
Only very little cpu overhead which is next to nothing.

TravelRec's already answered your question regarding multi instances.

/LeMury

Lex Nahumury

Coming up.
(hmm,..I'm a bit out of order lately. Can't think straight. the flue I guess).

Lex Nahumury

@TravelRec:
ASynth 3537 with MIDI Automation.

OBSOLETE!
See first post

/LeMury

trevbushell

talking about midi recording from Asynth.... theres no way you can record a midi track and then record filter or reso glides onto the same track is there?
ive tried and it doesnt work so far, wondering if my midi setup needs to be tweaked to do this?
trev

trevbushell

yep, got it, that worked, thanx , youre on the ball as usual!!
trev

Lex Nahumury

Of course you can do that in diff ways.
Let's say you play/rec the midi notes first on a midi track.
Now you can either play/rec some slider CC movements on that same track or another track
assigned to the same midi channel.
If you can not assign some slider on your midi keyboard then there are other (soft) options
to get those CC messages into your midi track.
Either draw them in your sequencer, or use some midi plugin slider to generate the CCs.

/LeMury

DK-1

Thanks for the quick replys TravelRec, Lemury, What is the easiest way to add multiple Asynth in the dsp? When I add another instance of Asynth I get a "No More GPR Registers" error. I don't want to start with a blank DSP because I have Cubase and other recording software setup the way I want. So I used the default DSP which is obviously full. I guess what I am saying is I don't want to change my entire KX setup, just add a few instances of Asynth. Thanks again for some wonderful drivers and synth.

Russ

Thats is what save/load settings is for. Save you current config, then remove some of the plugins that you do not need at the moment, and create a synth config, and save it under a different name. Then when you want to revert back, just load your saved configs.

Lex Nahumury

Some advice;
Sticking to the default DSP while using kX for making serious music is doing yourself short.
That's practicly the same as using CL drivers.
So do yourself a favor, ditch the default DSP, read the DSP setup guide and taylor your
custom setup.
There is no reason (other then ignorance) to stick to the default DSP setup.
Besides that, it's the only way to free up resources.

/LeMury

trevbushell

ok, probably being dumb here, but ive looked at how to get the cc messages into cubase and cant see it.

my kbd controller is a basic MK-149 evolution so i dont think i can assign a slider control.

ive tried using the Asynth sliders indsp to record (merge) over the top of the midi track, that doesnt work. how do you assign sliders? dont worry if you dont want to explain... i understand!
trev


ps- still have blue screen problem, despite turning midi in off! seems to be intermittent (as always). not a real prob though! just for your informatin

Russ

How are user presets mapped to midi instruments (i.e. in a midi sequencer). For example, the 12 default presets seem to map to midi instrument numbers 0 to 11, and then any midi instrument numbers above 11, all seem to map to "Alien Chopper". What about user created presets?

-Russ

TravelRec.

Program 0-11 are the "factory presets", you can add your own settings by adding a preset in the ASynth (click the custom line and save the current settings under a name you want). Then the new setting will be assignable via MIDI-program number.

TravelRec.

CubaseSX has a built in midi-fx that comes up like a slider. You can generate all necessary controllers with the mouse (sorry, forgot the name of the fx, but it´s a MIDI-plugin, not VST). If you don´t have external faders/sliders, it´s the only chance to create controllers in a simple way (you can also write them manually in the List-Editor). Finally you can use the input transformer or the transformer plugin, to map pitch-bending signals (for example) into controller messages. Check cubase help file. BTW, ASynth for itself cannot send controller messages, only receive. Greetings!

TravelRec.

Thank you man! And all the best wishes for your health!