NEW: ProFx (3538) Update Incl. MX6 and AC97

Lex Nahumury · Feb 26, 2006, 11:49 PM

Quote:

If ADC acted similairly, it would help to keep it synced with kxmixer (and the registers themselves).

No, that's not what I wrote ADC and ProFx for.
If user perse wants to use kxmixer pages they should use prolog/epilog default dsp stuff or whatever.
So from my perspective ADC will always overide AC97 registers.
Not the other way around.

I'll add an "Update" or "Set" button to ADC which will force ac97 regs back to ADC's current settings.

John Lodge · Feb 27, 2006, 09:25 AM

LeMury, thanks for the response

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeMury

As mentioned before, one can't use the ADC plugin and operating kXMixer AC97 page the same time.

Well, you can ofcourse but that's asking for trouble,
Both kxmixer and ADC can and do access physical AC97 device when operated
but there is no notification between them whatsoever.

Can't say much about the rest of your questions since I don't
have/use Abobe Audition and never use HQ.

I was not intending to use both but I found I needed to go the the Kxmixer page to toggle the AC97 off. Then the ADC control and the mixer page separate and it works.

But once it is working it does not stay working. Changing the kX output driver (Windows not ASIO) from 0/1 to HD seems to effect the ADC. Not at all sure what is happening.

I can get it working perfectly then touch nothing but change driver settings in Audition (which only touches the windows WAVE output driver (from kX) and the Audio data from an LP makes it through ADC and MX6 and disappears.

If I were to guess I would say that it seems like thre are three issues:

1. Something is not managing state (overriding it) in regard to the ADC control and its action on kX.

2. The k2lt is participating in an issue in regard to WinMM recording

3. An old Bug between kX and Audition remains (which is ok by itself it is not impossible).

I have used Profx before under 3538H and while there was more fiddling to get SB0400 to work, after that the Profx controls did a superb job of taking analogy input (LP) through to Audition. The noise level was exemplary and the contols were very good in use, this is maintained with the new controls, when they work.

Of course 3538H is not 3538J, the latter is a lot easier to use with a SB0400 but there may have been some introduced issues.

By the way the performance of kX with only the ProFx controls and surrounder+ is very good, low CPU and when I wring out the memory with Igor Arsenin's Taskinfo the available memory greater too.

John Lodge · Feb 27, 2006, 11:40 AM

OK!! starting with --startup --noac97 or closing and reopening with --noac97 eliminates the problems.

SUN · Feb 27, 2006, 02:09 PM

Hi LeMury again,
i found no Line1/Mic1 SRC-Input... only Line2/Mic2 which i can use now!
btw: AC97.2/Line2 is also there...

Audigy2 paltinum EX = SB0280 10k2

Greetings,
SUN

laserbeak · Feb 27, 2006, 02:38 PM

i have 3538 i can tell that by cliccking about but i cant tell if i have version h or i

Lex Nahumury · Feb 27, 2006, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SUN

..i found no Line1/Mic1 SRC-Input... only Line2/Mic2 which i can use now!
btw: AC97.2/Line2 is also there...

Audigy2 paltinum EX = SB0280 10k2

That is correct. Line,Mic, CD etc. are
removed from SRC since the introduction of the ADC plugin
which handles all those AC97 inputs and AC97.2/Line2(UDA) on 10k2 cards.

laserbeak · Feb 27, 2006, 07:59 PM

so im assuming you cant use these new profx plugins with the 3858j drivers either then hah?

thomasabarnes · Feb 27, 2006, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by laserbeak

so im assuming you cant use these new profx plugins with the 3858j drivers either then hah?

Youre assuming wrong. The newest ProFX is for .3538j! You sound confused. What do you mean by "either"?

laserbeak · Feb 27, 2006, 09:46 PM

well i mean the new mx6 and ac7 modules and src if i instal them nothing works anymore maybe i have to use the ac7 plug but when i try to laod the mx6 i get nothing

laserbeak · Feb 27, 2006, 09:48 PM

sorry i meant acd so i can use the version compiled for h on version j?

laserbeak · Feb 27, 2006, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thomasabarnes

Youre assuming wrong. The newest ProFX is for .3538j! You sound confused. What do you mean by "either"?

im talking about the cool version of mx6 in the pic of the first post of this thread. cause they dont work for the i. i'm no wizard programmer sorry if im not as literal as i'd like to be

Lex Nahumury · Feb 27, 2006, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Lodge

By the way the performance of kX with only the ProFx controls and
surrounder+ is very good, low CPU and when I wring out the memory with Igor Arsenin's
Taskinfo the available memory greater too.

Good!

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Lodge

OK!! starting with --startup --noac97 or closing and reopening with
--noac97 eliminates the problems.

Even better!

Hmm,..perhaps we should remind this somehow (knowledge base?) in case other users
run into similair setup/problems.
I'll forget for sure since I rarely use/open any kxmixer page.

I'll have a look at integrating p16v stuff in profx if possible and time permits.

Lex Nahumury · Feb 27, 2006, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by laserbeak

im talking about the cool version of mx6 in the pic of the first post of this thread. cause they dont work for the i. i'm no wizard programmer sorry if im not as literal as i'd like to be

I have just updated the first post.
Get latest ProFx v3.02 for 3538j from there.

(Btw: There has never been a 'i' release)

thomasabarnes · Feb 28, 2006, 01:38 AM

laserbeak:

When you want to use an ac97 source like Mic, you have to load the ADC plugin (after installing the ProFX for 3538j). The SRC doesnt have the ac97 sources in the drop down menu anymore. ADC has them, now. Also, when you install ProFX for 3538j you have to install the 3538j kX driver 1st. Then, when you load MX6 or the ADC plugin by right clicking in the DSP and selecting Add Effect/Plugin->ProFX, the MX6 and ADC should work for you, if youre using Win 2000 or higher operating system.

SUN · Feb 28, 2006, 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeMury

That is correct. Line,Mic, CD etc. are
removed from SRC since the introduction of the ADC plugin
which handles all those AC97 inputs and AC97.2/Line2(UDA) on 10k2 cards.

Hi LeMury,

hm - but kx and Your ADC report my card has no AC97 advice...

look here

SUN

**dj_stick** · Feb 28, 2006, 05:55 AM

SUN, your card has no AC97 codec, therefore the ADC isn't applicable to your card

SUN · Feb 28, 2006, 06:15 AM

Yo dj stick,

i know - but what i try to explain is:

In LeMurys SRC-Plugin 4 my SB0280 there is no Line1 but two Line2-inputs (See pic im my previous message) :-(

Originally Posted by SUN
..i found no Line1/Mic1 SRC-Input... only Line2/Mic2 which i can use now!
btw: AC97.2/Line2 is also there...

Audigy2 paltinum EX = SB0280 10k2

**dj_stick** · Feb 28, 2006, 06:24 AM

my cards show
Line2/Mix 2
AC97.2/Line2
also

it's possible the UDA codec is used for one of your inputs, just check each inputs with a peak meter in the DSP, to see what ones actually work
you should also have aux2/line3 and zvideo i2s, the second of which may be the third available input on your card

SUN · Feb 28, 2006, 06:34 AM

In the original ProFX witch comes with 3538J all works fine...I hope 2 remember this right...

I think LeMury only have to rename Line2/Mic2 into Line1/Mic1...??? if its a SB0280...
Because this one works!

Or is LeMury's SRC-Plugin only seeing what it gets from kxdriver..?

SUN alias DJ Sunnie

laserbeak · Feb 28, 2006, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thomasabarnes

laserbeak:

When you want to use an ac97 source like Mic, you have to load the ADC plugin (after installing the ProFX for 3538j). The SRC doesnt have the ac97 sources in the drop down menu anymore. ADC has them, now. Also, when you install ProFX for 3538j you have to install the 3538j kX driver 1st. Then, when you load MX6 or the ADC plugin by right clicking in the DSP and selecting Add Effect/Plugin->ProFX, the MX6 and ADC should work for you, if youre using Win 2000 or higher operating system.

so where is the pro fx installer for 3858j?

laserbeak · Feb 28, 2006, 01:48 PM

sweet! i didnt see that yesterday!!

ROBSCIX · Feb 28, 2006, 02:15 PM

first page...yeah they are pretty sweet...

laserbeak · Feb 28, 2006, 02:19 PM

i dont ever want another soundcard!!!

thomasabarnes · Feb 28, 2006, 03:19 PM

laserbeak:

The .3538j ProFX version was posted in post #260 of this thread. That wasn't long ago, but since ProFX is so cherished, there has been a lot of posts already after it was posted, so I think that's why you missed that post. Anyway, LeMury updated the 1st page in this thread to reflect the latest release.

Enjoy!

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeMury

ProFx v3.0 (compiled for 3538j)

Screenshot:
http://members.home.nl/nahutec/kxplugins/pfx3_shot.PNG

Download links on first post!

- removed: kXGUI and MFC dependancy

Notes:
- Since I wrote the entire GUI framework
from scratch using plain win32 api only,
user should experience faster GUI load times
and less CPU usage.
(i.e. the 8 Peak meters in MX6 should consume
hardly any CPU time)

- Allthough compiled for 3538j it is
very likely it will also work on future 3538 driver releases.
(because it doesn't use KXGUI)
It will NOT work on 3537 or earlier because
it uses some of the newer 3538 api features.

- You are free to choose which build to use.
Theoreticly the Release build should work fine,
but since everything in kX is Debug release...bla bla bla.

- Note that the old MX6 does not get overwritten.
You'll find the new MX6 in the ProFx section
using the GUID of old k2lt.
Previously saved DSP-setups have to be re-wired.

I did not have the time to check everything,
so please report any bugs.

/LeMury

EDIT:
Installation; Just unzip and register the .KXL file that's all.

Lex Nahumury · Mar 1, 2006, 07:15 AM

Update: ProFx v3.03 Release Build (compiled for 3538j)

http://members.home.nl/nahutec/ProFx/profx3x.htm

- Fix for Windows200x
- Peak meter Release Speed added
- ADC 'Clip Indicator' added
- New LED Graphics provided by Miquel.M

Please report any bugs and have fun,

/Lex

Tril · Mar 1, 2006, 07:41 AM

Great work on the ProFx plugins. They work very well.

Lemury, you changed nick to Lex Nahumury? That will confuse some people.

It will take some time to get used to it.

Russ · Mar 1, 2006, 07:45 AM

Looks good. The new clip indicator with the selectable threshhold setting on the ADC should prove to be very useful, and the addition of the release time settings is nice touch. It just keeps getting better and better

Lex Nahumury · Mar 1, 2006, 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tril

Lemury, you changed nick to Lex Nahumury? That will confuse some people.

It will take some time to get used to it.

Eh,..nick 2 real name actualy.
Yep, no doubt that will confuse a few.
Anyway, should have changed that a long time ago.

Lex Nahumury · Mar 1, 2006, 08:37 AM

>>The new clip indicator with the selectable threshhold setting on the ADC should
>>prove to be very useful,
Yes. Initialy I had planned a pop-up slider for adjusting the threshold
but was a bit pressed for time so I settled for a menu.

>>and the addition of the release time settings is nice touch.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, i got all 'jumpy' watching those meters going up&down like crazy
providing very little peak/level information on percusive audio material.

ROBSCIX · Mar 1, 2006, 10:17 AM

Very nice indeed. I appreciate your time and contribution to KX... Definatlye top quality plugins.

Feb 28, 2006, 01:38 AM	#344
thomasabarnes DriverHeaven Maniac Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: USA Posts: 1,315 Rep Power: 44 System Specs	laserbeak: When you want to use an ac97 source like Mic, you have to load the ADC plugin (after installing the ProFX for 3538j). The SRC doesnt have the ac97 sources in the drop down menu anymore. ADC has them, now. Also, when you install ProFX for 3538j you have to install the 3538j kX driver 1st. Then, when you load MX6 or the ADC plugin by right clicking in the DSP and selecting Add Effect/Plugin->ProFX, the MX6 and ADC should work for you, if youre using Win 2000 or higher operating system. __________________ May a song always touch you in a positive way. Sonar 8 Producer Edition, Vista Ultimate 64Bit, MOTU UltraLite MK3, 250 GB HDD 7200 rpm, 80 GB HDD 7200 rpm, Lite-On DVDRW LH 18A1P My Music Production: Top 40, Contemporary Christian, Pop/Rock, Decent Rap, Inspirationals, and Children Songs

Feb 28, 2006, 06:34 AM	#349
SUN DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Made in Germany Posts: 50 Rep Power: 0	In the original ProFX witch comes with 3538J all works fine...I hope 2 remember this right... I think LeMury only have to rename Line2/Mic2 into Line1/Mic1...??? if its a SB0280... Because this one works! Or is LeMury's SRC-Plugin only seeing what it gets from kxdriver..? SUN alias DJ Sunnie Last edited by SUN; Feb 28, 2006 at 06:44 AM.

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Feb 27, 2006, 11:40 AM	#333
John Lodge DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 71 Rep Power: 0	OK!! starting with --startup --noac97 or closing and reopening with --noac97 eliminates the problems.

Feb 27, 2006, 02:09 PM	#334
SUN DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Made in Germany Posts: 50 Rep Power: 0	Hi LeMury again, i found no Line1/Mic1 SRC-Input... only Line2/Mic2 which i can use now! btw: AC97.2/Line2 is also there... Audigy2 paltinum EX = SB0280 10k2 Greetings, SUN

Feb 27, 2006, 02:38 PM	#335
laserbeak DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 153 Rep Power: 0	i have 3538 i can tell that by cliccking about but i cant tell if i have version h or i

Feb 27, 2006, 07:59 PM	#337
laserbeak DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 153 Rep Power: 0	so im assuming you cant use these new profx plugins with the 3858j drivers either then hah?

Feb 27, 2006, 09:46 PM	#339
laserbeak DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 153 Rep Power: 0	well i mean the new mx6 and ac7 modules and src if i instal them nothing works anymore maybe i have to use the ac7 plug but when i try to laod the mx6 i get nothing

Feb 27, 2006, 09:48 PM	#340
laserbeak DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 153 Rep Power: 0	sorry i meant acd so i can use the version compiled for h on version j?

Feb 28, 2006, 06:15 AM	#347
SUN DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Made in Germany Posts: 50 Rep Power: 0	Yo dj stick, i know - but what i try to explain is: In LeMurys SRC-Plugin 4 my SB0280 there is no Line1 but two Line2-inputs (See pic im my previous message) :-( Originally Posted by SUN ..i found no Line1/Mic1 SRC-Input... only Line2/Mic2 which i can use now! btw: AC97.2/Line2 is also there... Audigy2 paltinum EX = SB0280 10k2

Feb 28, 2006, 01:48 PM	#351
laserbeak DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 153 Rep Power: 0	sweet! i didnt see that yesterday!!

Feb 28, 2006, 02:15 PM	#352
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,745 Rep Power: 0	first page...yeah they are pretty sweet...

Feb 28, 2006, 02:19 PM	#353
laserbeak DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 153 Rep Power: 0	i dont ever want another soundcard!!!

Mar 1, 2006, 07:15 AM	#355
Lex Nahumury DH Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,883 Rep Power: 48	Update: ProFx v3.03 Release Build (compiled for 3538j) http://members.home.nl/nahutec/ProFx/profx3x.htm - Fix for Windows200x - Peak meter Release Speed added - ADC 'Clip Indicator' added - New LED Graphics provided by Miquel.M Please report any bugs and have fun, /Lex

Mar 1, 2006, 07:41 AM	#356
Tril S-3D enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,561 Rep Power: 39 System Specs	Great work on the ProFx plugins. They work very well. Lemury, you changed nick to Lex Nahumury? That will confuse some people. It will take some time to get used to it.

Mar 1, 2006, 07:45 AM	#357
Russ DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,836 Rep Power: 41	Looks good. The new clip indicator with the selectable threshhold setting on the ADC should prove to be very useful, and the addition of the release time settings is nice touch. It just keeps getting better and better

Mar 1, 2006, 08:37 AM	#359
Lex Nahumury DH Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,883 Rep Power: 48	>>The new clip indicator with the selectable threshhold setting on the ADC should >>prove to be very useful, Yes. Initialy I had planned a pop-up slider for adjusting the threshold but was a bit pressed for time so I settled for a menu. >>and the addition of the release time settings is nice touch.[/QUOTE] Yeah, i got all 'jumpy' watching those meters going up&down like crazy providing very little peak/level information on percusive audio material.

Mar 1, 2006, 10:17 AM	#360
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,745 Rep Power: 0	Very nice indeed. I appreciate your time and contribution to KX... Definatlye top quality plugins.