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Old Mar 10, 2007, 07:37 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hphs troubles (not enough space)

I'm trying to run the HphS module in replace of the surrounder, but no matter what I do, I can't free up enough G{R slots to have it run with nothing other than the FXBus and the Epilogue.

How would I go about creating more GPR slots, as i've noticed that once running with nothing other than the FXBus and the Epilogue, the DSP window reads 260 of 256 slots filled D:

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Old Mar 10, 2007, 11:05 AM   #2 (permalink)
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GPR's (General Purpose Registers) are 10kX DSP resources and are limited, you cannot do anything to ADD GPR's. 10k2 DSP based cards have 2x (512) GPR's- so more plugins (more GPR's, more INST and TRAM too) can be used.
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Old Mar 10, 2007, 12:48 PM   #3 (permalink)
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The HphSp plugin is really meant for 10k2 based cards, but you can use it with a 10k1 card in a stripped down DSP config.

Note: The resource counters shown at the top of the DSP are not exact (as you noticed).

i.e. (DSP config)
Clear DSP.
Load Fxbus.
Load Summ
Load Summ
Load HphSp
Load epilog

Note: You can use kxlt instead of epilog to save additional GPRs, if you do not care about Master Volume control.

Make connections as in this picture (assuming that kX Router is using the default routing).

Note: I am not completely sure about the bottom two pins of the HphSp plugin as they are not labeled (I connected them as 3D_Top and LFE in the picture).

BTW: Do not forget to turn on 8ps in kX Console (shw 20 1).

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Old Mar 10, 2007, 05:05 PM   #4 (permalink)
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The HphSp plugin is really meant for 10k2 based cards, but you can use it with a 10k1 card in a stripped down DSP config.

Note: The resource counters shown at the top of the DSP are not exact (as you noticed).

i.e. (DSP config)
Clear DSP.
Load Fxbus.
Load Summ
Load Summ
Load HphSp
Load epilog

Note: You can use kxlt instead of epilog to save additional GPRs, if you do not care about Master Volume control.

Make connections as in this picture (assuming that kX Router is using the default routing).

Note: I am not completely sure about the bottom two pins of the HphSp plugin as they are not labeled (I connected them as 3D_Top and LFE in the picture).

BTW: Do not forget to turn on 8ps in kX Console (shw 20 1).

-Russ
Thank you, i'll give that a shot.

I was also wondering though, will I really notice that much difference in ANYTHING, whilst using headphones and the hphs together?
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Thank you, i'll give that a shot.

I was also wondering though, will I really notice that much difference in ANYTHING, whilst using headphones and the hphs together?
I am not sure what you mean, the HphSp plugin is specifically for headphone use (HphSp = Headphone Spatializer). How much of a difference it would make, I guess would depend on what you are comparing it to.
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I was also wondering though, will I really notice that much difference in ANYTHING, whilst using headphones and the hphs together?
it seems like its meant to simulate surround thru headphones - I havent played with it too much, but I have used it for sending 5.1 (DVD) to it instead of using speakers (late night watching) - and, while it allowed me to *hear everything* - the overall effect wasn't too impressive (*surround* effect-wise) IMHO.
Considering the resources it requires - I don't use it often. But, I havent tried playing with sending it surround from media player plugins (like foobar2000's AT Surround) - mayby I'll give it a try.. ??
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I think that the main thing that it is supposed to do, is to sound more like speakers than headphones (i.e. with speakers (sound in general), you do not only hear sounds from one side, in one ear, like it is in most cases with headphones). The spacialization of the positional channels is supposed to help with 3D sound positioning using headphones (but I find front/back placement is very hard to differentiate with any such headphone technology I have heard (Binaural, Dolby Headohone, etc), so it is not that impressive to me in that respect (but maybe my head just does not match the general model used by these technologies, or maybe it is just my headphones)). In any case, it is not just for surround sound stuff (i.e. it is supposed to sound more natural than basic left/right type headphone).

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Old Mar 16, 2007, 01:29 AM   #8 (permalink)
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What do you folk think would be the best way to set up a pair of headphones for general computing use?
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Old Mar 16, 2007, 01:42 AM   #9 (permalink)
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For general use, probably just Surrounder+ using the '2.0 Surround Mix' preset or the '2.0 Stereo Only' preset (depending on the source audio). At least until there is something better that doesn't use a ton of resources...

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