KX Automation parameters?

kokoon · Mar 21, 2003, 09:31 AM

how do i add a parameter from kX plugin to kX automation? can this even be done?

Max M. · Mar 21, 2003, 05:09 PM

You just open "kX Automation" and all tweakable parameters are already there (for plugins that are currently loaded) - you just need to assign some midi msg to...

Hanz Petrov · Mar 21, 2003, 05:32 PM

Err.. Max, I think he means how can he make an existing non-automated plugin parameter show up in the kX Automation window..

And the answer is: add a few lines of code and recompile the plugin (look at the SDK)..

/Hanz

p.s. kokoon, if you have one or two plugins in mind, they could maybe be updated with automation for the next release (maybe).

kokoon · Mar 22, 2003, 05:14 PM

thanks for answers, yes indeed i meant the latter. does that cost any emu resources?

Max M. · Mar 22, 2003, 05:57 PM

>does that cost any emu resources? - no it doesn't... but each automated parameter eats some x86 resources....

TheKezmiester · Mar 26, 2003, 12:03 AM

>each automated parameter eats some x86 resources....

Automated or automatable?

Max M. · Mar 26, 2003, 06:34 AM

Automated ;)

kokoon · Mar 26, 2003, 07:11 AM

by "automated" you mean the one that has midi assigned to it. so it actualy wouldnt hurt if all parameters were "automatable"

Max M. · Mar 26, 2003, 08:51 AM

yes, exactly

kokoon · Mar 26, 2003, 09:31 AM

make all parameters "automatable"!

TheKezmiester · Mar 26, 2003, 08:41 PM

I'd just like to appologize for steering people away from the MIDIBox project some time ago.
I have just made a midi box with 4x20 LCD screen, 28 buttons & LEDs, 16 Knobs and 8 Sliders with no previous experience with PCBs!
It's only two thirds finished but what's finished works great.
Better still, I had my design laser cut and CHROME-PLATED so man it looks nice in my studio!

Anyway, once all these pots and faders are working, I'm gonna need alot of automation parameters to play with so bring'em on boys!

Anyone interested in such stuff check out http://www.ucapps.de I highly recommend it!

Piccys coming soon!

Gonzo · Mar 26, 2003, 09:38 PM

Speaking of automation...I'm dying to to use automation with filter cutoffs but currently staying away from it because of the damn issue of interpolation (or lack of) that makes the zipper noise when you move a fader too quickly

This would be one of the most useful and obvious uses of automation I could think off!
:-)

Gonzo

TheKezmiester · Mar 27, 2003, 06:07 PM

Have you tried it with the pitch bender? The resolution is much better.
Of course we only have one pitch bender, so I vote for mix & max boxes in the auto window to rescale the controller msgs. (It's rare that you'd need the full range of the filter for sweeps so why waste resolution?)

Gonzo · Mar 27, 2003, 06:28 PM

You are right...you never need full the full range of the filter... but even in a short range and even still using the mouse to move the fader, I get soft clicks and not exactly a continuous sweep.
By the way, I've read somewhere else the same thing that you say, that by using pitch bend you can get a lot more midi resolution, but I must be doing something wrong because with my keyboard (admittedly a crappy one...no...worst yet...complete bullshit), while analyzing the midi output from the pitch bender with midi-ox, I found that it outputs the same range as any other controller (not the 16000.. or so steps that's supposed to do).
Go figure how smooth my pitch bending can be!

Gonzo

kokoon · Jul 1, 2003, 04:07 AM

ok - here it goes.

i hereby request plugins "Stereo Decimator" and "Aps Fuzz" to become fully automated.

also, i'd like to know whats the situation with their parameters resolution. what defines their resolution? can it be altered?

thank you very much in advance.

Mar 21, 2003, 09:31 AM	#1
kokoon DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: slovenia Posts: 269 Rep Power: 0	KX Automation parameters? how do i add a parameter from kX plugin to kX automation? can this even be done? __________________ [kokoon]

Mar 21, 2003, 05:09 PM	#2
Max M. d/h member-shmember Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Evil Empire Posts: 2,400 Rep Power: 47	You just open "kX Automation" and all tweakable parameters are already there (for plugins that are currently loaded) - you just need to assign some midi msg to... __________________

Mar 22, 2003, 05:14 PM	#4
kokoon DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: slovenia Posts: 269 Rep Power: 0	thanks for answers, yes indeed i meant the latter. does that cost any emu resources? __________________ [kokoon]

Mar 22, 2003, 05:57 PM	#5
Max M. d/h member-shmember Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Evil Empire Posts: 2,400 Rep Power: 47	>does that cost any emu resources? - no it doesn't... but each automated parameter eats some x86 resources.... __________________

Mar 26, 2003, 12:03 AM	#6
TheKezmiester DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 49 Rep Power: 0	hmm >each automated parameter eats some x86 resources.... Automated or automatable?

Mar 21, 2003, 05:32 PM	#3
Hanz Petrov kX Project Counsel Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Canada, eh? Posts: 78 Rep Power: 0	Err.. Max, I think he means how can he make an existing non-automated plugin parameter show up in the kX Automation window.. And the answer is: add a few lines of code and recompile the plugin (look at the SDK).. /Hanz p.s. kokoon, if you have one or two plugins in mind, they could maybe be updated with automation for the next release (maybe).

Mar 26, 2003, 06:34 AM	#7
Max M. d/h member-shmember Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Evil Empire Posts: 2,400 Rep Power: 47	Automated ;) __________________

Mar 26, 2003, 07:11 AM	#8
kokoon DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: slovenia Posts: 269 Rep Power: 0	by "automated" you mean the one that has midi assigned to it. so it actualy wouldnt hurt if all parameters were "automatable" __________________ [kokoon]

Mar 26, 2003, 08:51 AM	#9
Max M. d/h member-shmember Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Evil Empire Posts: 2,400 Rep Power: 47	yes, exactly __________________

Mar 26, 2003, 09:31 AM	#10
kokoon DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: slovenia Posts: 269 Rep Power: 0	make all parameters "automatable"! __________________ [kokoon]

Mar 26, 2003, 08:41 PM	#11
TheKezmiester DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 49 Rep Power: 0	MIDI Box I'd just like to appologize for steering people away from the MIDIBox project some time ago. I have just made a midi box with 4x20 LCD screen, 28 buttons & LEDs, 16 Knobs and 8 Sliders with no previous experience with PCBs! It's only two thirds finished but what's finished works great. Better still, I had my design laser cut and CHROME-PLATED so man it looks nice in my studio! Anyway, once all these pots and faders are working, I'm gonna need alot of automation parameters to play with so bring'em on boys! Anyone interested in such stuff check out http://www.ucapps.de I highly recommend it! Piccys coming soon!

Mar 26, 2003, 09:38 PM	#12
Gonzo DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Uruguay Posts: 57 Rep Power: 0	Speaking of automation...I'm dying to to use automation with filter cutoffs but currently staying away from it because of the damn issue of interpolation (or lack of) that makes the zipper noise when you move a fader too quickly This would be one of the most useful and obvious uses of automation I could think off! :-) Gonzo

Mar 27, 2003, 06:07 PM	#13
TheKezmiester DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 49 Rep Power: 0	Pithcbender Have you tried it with the pitch bender? The resolution is much better. Of course we only have one pitch bender, so I vote for mix & max boxes in the auto window to rescale the controller msgs. (It's rare that you'd need the full range of the filter for sweeps so why waste resolution?)

Mar 27, 2003, 06:28 PM	#14
Gonzo DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Uruguay Posts: 57 Rep Power: 0	You are right...you never need full the full range of the filter... but even in a short range and even still using the mouse to move the fader, I get soft clicks and not exactly a continuous sweep. By the way, I've read somewhere else the same thing that you say, that by using pitch bend you can get a lot more midi resolution, but I must be doing something wrong because with my keyboard (admittedly a crappy one...no...worst yet...complete bullshit), while analyzing the midi output from the pitch bender with midi-ox, I found that it outputs the same range as any other controller (not the 16000.. or so steps that's supposed to do). Go figure how smooth my pitch bending can be! Gonzo

Jul 1, 2003, 04:07 AM	#15
kokoon DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: slovenia Posts: 269 Rep Power: 0	ok - here it goes. i hereby request plugins "Stereo Decimator" and "Aps Fuzz" to become fully automated. also, i'd like to know whats the situation with their parameters resolution. what defines their resolution? can it be altered? thank you very much in advance. __________________ [kokoon]