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ATI Mobility FireGL V5700 support coming?

I see the V5600 is supported, is the V5700 going to be added soon? It's standard on Lenovo model W500, but right now the provided drivers aren't working quite right (See this thread Help W500 graphics card question - W Series ThinkPads - lenovo community).

But besides all that, I'd prefer using these instead of OEM supplied drivers ;-)

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I am interested in this as well, any help is greatly appreciated. The with OEM drivers and my 2.5ghz 9400, I only get less than 3900 in 3dmarks06 which is comparable to the previous generation of this laptop, t61p.
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Re: ATI Mobility FireGL V5700 support coming?

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Re: ATI Mobility FireGL V5700 support coming?

I will look into it and see what device id's i need to add and what device settings.
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Re: ATI Mobility FireGL V5700 support coming?

Here is GPUZ, I will send you DxDiag report.




Code:
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Display Devices
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        Card name: ATI Mobility FireGL V5700 
     Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
        Chip type: ATI display adapter (0x9591)
         DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
       Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9591&SUBSYS_212617AA&REV_00
   Display Memory: 1512 MB
 Dedicated Memory: 508 MB
    Shared Memory: 1004 MB
     Current Mode: 1680 x 1050 (32 bit) (60Hz)
          Monitor: Generic PnP Monitor
      Driver Name: atidxx32.dll,atidxx64,atiumdag.dll,atiumdva.cap,atiumd64,atiumd6a,atitmm64
   Driver Version: 7.15.0010.0134 (English)
      DDI Version: 10.1
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
 Driver Date/Size: 9/19/2008 14:19:34, 1716736 bytes
      WHQL Logo'd: Yes
  WHQL Date Stamp: 
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-D6D1-11CF-9863-2701A1C2CA35}
        Vendor ID: 0x1002
        Device ID: 0x9591
        SubSys ID: 0x212617AA
      Revision ID: 0x0000
      Revision ID: 0x0000
      Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C 
 Deinterlace Caps: {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive 
                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch 
                   {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY 
                   {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive 
                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch 
                   {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY 
                   {3C5323C1-6FB7-44F5-9081-056BF2EE449D}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive 
                   {552C0DAD-CCBC-420B-83C8-74943CF9F1A6}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive 
                   {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive 
                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch 
                   {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY 
     DDraw Status: Enabled
       D3D Status: Enabled
       AGP Status: Enabled


Thank you very much!

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Old Nov 8, 2008, 02:32 PM   #6
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AW: ATI Mobility FireGL V5700 support coming?

OK, that is odd. The Device - ID of the Mobility FireGL V5700 should be 9595 as you can see here. 9591 is the Device - ID of the Mobility Radeon HD3650.

Heres a GPUZ Shot of the Mobility Radeon HD3650 in my Studio 17:



So i wonder if it is possible to support this Mobility Radeon HD3650 with FireGL Drivers? Would be nice for CAD

EDIT: This might help:

Code:
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Display Devices
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        Card name: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650
     Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
        Chip type: ATI Radeon Graphics Processor (0x9591)
         DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
       Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9591&SUBSYS_02561028&REV_00
   Display Memory: 1786 MB
 Dedicated Memory: 251 MB
    Shared Memory: 1534 MB
     Current Mode: 1920 x 1200 (32 bit) (60Hz)
          Monitor: PnP-Monitor (Standard)
      Driver Name: atidxx32.dll,atidxx64,atiumdag.dll,atiumdva.cap,atiumd64,atiumd6a,atitmm64
   Driver Version: 7.15.0010.0142 (English)
      DDI Version: 10.1
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
 Driver Date/Size: 9/17/2008 04:05:36, 2143744 bytes
      WHQL Logo'd: Yes
  WHQL Date Stamp: 
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-D6D1-11CF-FC71-5C22A1C2CA35}
        Vendor ID: 0x1002
        Device ID: 0x9591
        SubSys ID: 0x02561028
      Revision ID: 0x0000
      Revision ID: 0x0000
      Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C 
 Deinterlace Caps: {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive 
                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch 
                   {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY 
                   {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive 
                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch 
                   {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY 
                   {3C5323C1-6FB7-44F5-9081-056BF2EE449D}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive 
                   {552C0DAD-CCBC-420B-83C8-74943CF9F1A6}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive 
                   {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive 
                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch 
                   {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY 
     DDraw Status: Enabled
       D3D Status: Enabled
       AGP Status: Enabled

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Old Nov 10, 2008, 03:01 AM   #7
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Re: ATI Mobility FireGL V5700 support coming?

Yea I realized the problem, there is a thread about this over a lenovo about if its possible lenovo just took 3650 and soldered 512 mb onto it and called it FireGL... Hopefully not, that would cause alot of outrange for people who paid the premium for w500 over t500
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Re: ATI Mobility FireGL V5700 support coming?

Indeed there is a 'problem' with the GPU in the W500. Here is the link to the picture of the GPU Picture of W500 GPU die! Not V5700? - Notebook Forums and Laptop Discussion
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Old Nov 29, 2008, 11:33 PM   #9
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Re: ATI Mobility FireGL V5700 support coming?

So is there a simple way to add v5700 support? If so please give me some pointers and I will try to see if i can incorporate it myself. It seems most of what is needed is just to add in the device ID. Is that right?

The FireGL drivers are fine for my rendering applications, but they are not conducive the occasional gaming I do as they make the graphics card generate every single frame which really hampers game performance. So that's why i've been looking for radeon catalyst drivers.

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Old Jan 7, 2009, 10:57 PM   #10
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Re: ATI Mobility FireGL V5700 support coming?

any luck with those drivers?
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Old Feb 13, 2009, 04:12 AM   #11
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Re: ATI Mobility FireGL V5700 support coming?

I am having the exact same issues with my v5700 on a lenovo w500. specifically, trying to play the Dawn of war 2 beta on it is a hassle, as the graphic drivers make for an extremely laggy experience. IT's like the display is ½ second delayed from any command inputs (clicking / dragging mouse etc.)
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Old Feb 17, 2009, 05:19 AM   #12
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Re: ATI Mobility FireGL V5700 support coming?

*bump*

any ideas about support for v5700 coming? any way i can help with info?
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??? Re: ATI Mobility FireGL V5700 support coming?

I just installed the modded drivers on my Lenovo T500 with the ATI Mobility Radeon HD3650, and found that it works great after trying to get it to work properly with some work (wasn't as easy as I thought it would be) and I am still lost on how I got it to finally work! Anyway, I am getting my T500 replaced for a W500 as I want to run CAD software. Since the W500 has the ATI FireGL 5700 which is supposedly optimized for CAD, I am getting it. However I found that this GPU isn't currently supported by the modder tool. I would really like to have Driver Heaven support this chip, since one of the updates from Microsoft seems to disable the ATI GPU (at least it did in my T500 with switchable graphics) and only the Intel integrated GPU was showing up in the Display Adapter list in Device Manager!?! The Mobility Modder tool helped me solve this issue and now stuff works great! Now, since I am about to get the W500, I am a bit worried that the same thing might happen and I won't be able to fix it since the FireGL V5700 is not supported I hope this issue is resolved by the good folks and Driver Heaven and the FireGL V5700 will finally make it into the the list of supported GPUs. Cheers!
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Re : Re: ATI Mobility FireGL V5700 support coming?

Yeap
I'm waiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiting for it too...
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Re: ATI Mobility FireGL V5700 support coming?

Still patiently waiting for v5700 support as well
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Re: ATI Mobility FireGL V5700 support coming?

Yep! Definitely waiting! New Modder does not work at all on this GPU!
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Re: ATI Mobility FireGL V5700 support coming?

Bump*


Jumping on the Bandwagon of People patiently (or not ) waiting for ther FireGL V5700 to be supported !!



Hope you guys get time to do it sooner rather than later :P
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Re: ATI Mobility FireGL V5700 support coming?

Ahhh, YES. This is still an issue, huh? I was successful getting my OS to recognize and use the ATI FireGL V5700 in my Lenovo W500. I've done it on the stock system running Vista 32-bit and now with new HD running Windows 7. Here's how I did it...

For my new system running Vista 32-bit
1) I downloaded and used the driver from Lenovo
Version: 8.52.4.5-081002a-070479C
Release Date: 2008/11/08 (there is a new one...see below, but have not tried the latest one in Vista)

2) AFTER you update the display driver....upgrade system BIOS. I upgraded to version 1.20-1.01. (There are more current versions now, but this one worked for me.) You can find the BIOS on the Lenovo support and download page for the W500. Read the readme.txt very carefully...I recommend printing and following precisely.

3) Reboot. Open Catalyst Control Center and you should see the FireGL V5700 recognized as the Graphics Adapter.


For Windows 7 x86 (Eval build 7100), BIOS version 1.20(6FET50WW)
1) Download the driver from Lenovo
Version: 8.563.2.1-090401a-079160C Release Date: 2009/04/28
2) In the BIOS windows I changed...
Display > Graphics > 'Discrete'
Display > OS Detection > 'Disable'

3) Install software by right clicking Setup and select Troubleshoot compatibility. Run as 'Vista'. Don't worry if the install gets hung up and doesn't install the 2005 C++. Just let it keep running. It takes awhile, but will finish. The log will show an install error with the C++...disregard.

3) Restart computer. Start Catalyst Control Center. It will list ATI Mobililty FireGL V5700 as the graphics adapter. The ATI symbol in the bottom left of the CCC window shows "ATI FIREPRO 3D GRAPHICS".

Good luck!
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Re: ATI Mobility FireGL V5700 support coming?

Methinks ^ You missed the point good man !

We are trying to Mod The V5700 into a 512mb 3650/3670 (equivalent)

It is not about trying to get it recognized in Vista and Win7, although that might be some other threads concern

P.s: Bump !
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