Vista & HP Pavilion Mobility Radeon 9600 64mb?

SrkiCoach · Jun 3, 2007, 02:07 PM

Hello everybody, I'm new on the forum.

I have a HP Pavilion zx5171EA laptop (P4 3.2 GHz, 1.25 GB RAM, 15.4 Wide TFT) with a ATI Mobility Radeon 9600 64MB card.
I wanna put Vista on my laptop but no luck with drivers. The driver Vista found - "MOBILITY RADEON 9600/9700 (Microsoft Corporation - WDDM)" has a warning sign on it and it doesn't work properly. I've tried DH Mobility Modder - but no luck, the drivers have the same warning sign. The only driver I was able to get working was ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9000 (Microsoft Corporation - XDDM) ..

Is there any hope for me and my laptop for something better - glass, aero, WDDM, something ... anybody?

Thanks.

**Spike** · Jun 3, 2007, 02:28 PM

So the driver that was modded did install normally or did you had to force it? Do you remember what the warning was?

Can you post the DeviceID? you can find in the dxdiag when you save the information. Open that file and look by Display Devices and post the Device Key line here.

SrkiCoach · Jun 3, 2007, 03:39 PM

Thank you for the quick reply!

No, I didn't have any problems modding, just nothing happend. After installing, the computer wanted to reboot but nothing happend, I mean it did not change to a higher resolution or something. You know how it is that screen can go black for a second when the new driver is loaded. Nothing like that happend when I apply the modded Catalyst driver or the one Vista "recommends" for my graphic card. Both have yellow triangle in Device Manager with a "!" and in properties says that the device is not working correctly. It is only with I apply this driver (9000) that screen goes off for a second and i can change to a correct resolution. Here is the information from dxdiag:

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Display Devices
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Card name: ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9000 (Microsoft Corporation - XDDM)
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip type: ATI Radeon Graphics Processor AGP (0x4E50)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4E50&SUBSYS_006B103C&REV_00
Display Memory: 70.5 MB
Dedicated Memory: n/a
Shared Memory: n/a
Current Mode: 1680 x 1050 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Generic Non-PnP Monitor
Driver Name: atiumdag.dll,atiumdva.dat,atitmmxx.dll
Driver Version: 7.14.0010.0443 (English)
DDI Version: 9
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 11/2/2006 12:46:02, 2413568 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp:
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-0D10-11CF-426A-6120A1C2CB35}
Vendor ID: 0x1002
Device ID: 0x4E50
SubSys ID: 0x006B103C
Revision ID: 0x0000
Revision ID: 0x0000
Video Accel:
Deinterlace Caps: n/a
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Not Available

... my laptop has Mobility Radeon 9600.

**Spike** · Jun 4, 2007, 03:22 AM

The device id is supported in the modder. The XDDM means it is the XP driver that is installed. But Glass and Areo are not possible. I thought you needed 128MB or more for that.

Will take another look at the inf files to see if i can find something.

SrkiCoach · Jun 4, 2007, 11:09 AM

Thanks! If you find anything, let me know...

KainXS · Jun 6, 2007, 04:58 PM

Aero will run on a 64mb card, here are the requirements for Aero

32 or 64-bit (x64) processor
1 gigabyte of system memory
a DirectX 9 compatible graphics processor, with a Windows Display Driver Model (WDDM) driver, and a minimum of 64 MB of Video RAM
40 GB hard drive with 15 GB free space
DVD-ROM Drive
audio output and Internet access

the funny thing is that ihave the SAME LAPTOP with the SAME PROBLEM
its not only you though, my brother has a dv8000 with a x200m and he has the same problem

can someone help us pavilon guys

but i don't really care about aero i just want my gaming score to increase from 1 to something else

**Spike** · Jun 7, 2007, 02:17 AM

I will take a look into this.

KainXS · Jun 12, 2007, 03:16 PM

i tried the directions to the word a few times now so have you gotten anything done spike

clmnw · Jun 12, 2007, 05:19 PM

same problems on Toshiba P30 (Radeon Mobility 9600, 64MB) - followed all instructions but always afrer reboot Device Manager shows < ! > and defaults to standard VGA.

As suggested, the best option so far is the XDDM Radeon 9000 driver which allowed me to run a better resolution, but still getting 1.0 as Score for 3D. Haven't tried to install the latest 9600/9700 XP drivers from Toshiba site, as I didn't know that XP drivers can be installed on Vista (I read in this topic for the fiorst time for XDDM drivers).

Looking forward to any suggestions...

**Spike** · Jun 13, 2007, 02:49 AM

It is still wierd that it happens, because i checked and the 4E50 id is in the list as 9600/9700.

I have to look more into this and see what could cause it. Will do some searching for that 9600 64MB.

clmnw · Jun 13, 2007, 03:18 AM

Before I updated to Vista, I had run a full Everest Report on my system (under XP). Here are some parts of it, concerning the Video Card, if this helps:

Code:

    [ ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9600/9700 Series (Omega 3.8.291) ]
 
        Video Adapter Properties:
            Device Description      ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9600/9700 Series (Omega 3.8.291)
            Adapter String      ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9600/9700 Series (Omega 3
            BIOS String      BK-ATI VER008.011.002.025
            Chip Type      ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9700 AGP (0x4E50)
            DAC Type      Internal DAC(400MHz)
            Installed Drivers      ati2dvag (6.14.10.6635 - ATI Catalyst 6.9)
            Memory Size      64 MB
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
        Graphics Processor Properties:
            Video Adapter      ATI Mobility Radeon 9600/9700 (M10/M11)
            GPU Code Name      M11 (AGP 8x 1002 / 4E50, Rev 00)
            GPU Clock      392 MHz (original: 391 MHz)
            Memory Clock      196 MHz (original: 200 MHz)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
        AGP Controller:
            AGP Version      3.00
            AGP Status      Enabled
            AGP Device      ATI Mobility Radeon 9600/9700 (M10/M11)
            AGP Aperture Size      64 MB
            Supported AGP Speeds      1x, 2x, 4x, 8x
            Current AGP Speed      8x
            Fast-Write      Supported, Disabled
            Side Band Addressing      Supported, Enabled
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
        Graphics Processor Properties:
            Video Adapter      ATI Mobility Radeon 9600/9700 (M10/M11)
            BIOS Version      008.011.002.025
            GPU Code Name      M11
            PCI Device      1002-4E50 / 1179-FF01
            Transistors      75 million
            Process Technology      0.13 um
            Bus Type      AGP 8x @ 8x
            Memory Size      64 MB
            GPU Clock      392 MHz (original: 391 MHz)
            RAMDAC Clock      400 MHz
            Pixel Pipelines      4
            TMU Per Pipeline      1
            Vertex Shaders      2 (v2.0)
            Pixel Shaders      4 (v2.0)
            DirectX Hardware Support      DirectX v9.0
            Pixel Fillrate      1568 MPixel/s
            Texel Fillrate      1568 MTexel/s
 
        Memory Bus Properties:
            Bus Type      DDR
            Bus Width      128-bit
            Real Clock      196 MHz (DDR) (original: 200 MHz)
            Effective Clock      392 MHz
            Bandwidth      6272 MB/s
 
        Memory Timings:
            CAS Latency (CL)      3T
            RAS To CAS Delay (tRCD)      4T
            RAS Precharge (tRP)      4T
            RAS Active Time (tRAS)      9T
            Row Refresh Cycle Time (tRFC)      20T
            RAS To RAS Delay (tRRD)      3T
            Write Recovery Time (tWR)      3T
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
        ATI GPU Registers:
            ati-00E0      000C0000
            ati-00F8      04000000
            ati-0140      00000021
            ati-0144      1A291911
            ati-0148      F3FFF000
            ati-0154      775771BF
            ati-0158      31320032
            ati-0178      00007218
            ati-01C0      00FF0000
            ati-4018      00010011
            ati-CLKIND-00      00000000
            ati-CLKIND-04      0003002D
            ati-CLKIND-0A      023A1D04
            ati-CLKIND-0B      48001A00
            ati-CLKIND-0C      0400BC00
            ati-CLKIND-0D      00A07FFA
            ati-CLKIND-0E      0400FC00
            ati-CLKIND-0F      00000000
            ati-CLKIND-12      00031212
 
    [ ATI CrossFire ]
 
        ATI CrossFire:
            CrossFire Status      Not Supported
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Just to add that the patching with the mod went alright as when installing it allowed me to actually install drivers (recognized my card as 9600/9700). It just doesn't work with those drivers after that. So could it be that they are really incompatible with the Mobility ATI hardware, don't know. I hope you know

KainXS · Jun 19, 2007, 06:39 AM

should i try to update the direct x and see if that works

**Spike** · Jun 19, 2007, 09:51 AM

No reinstalling DirectX doesn't matter. Still looking into it. Still have no idea yet why it happens.

fgoulet · Jul 6, 2007, 09:24 AM

Same problem here with my toshiba p10.

I have found this thread on technet that explain how to install the XP display driver on vista.

http://forums.microsoft.com/technet/...&tf=0&pageid=0

It worked well for me altought I would prefer to run the native Vista driver!

Spike, it could also give you some clue about where the problem lies.

Thanks.

Fred

SynteXis · Jul 22, 2007, 08:52 PM

I have same problem with my hp zx5000. MY card is an Ati Mobility Radeon 9600. When Vista install the WDDM drivers for my 9600 and I reboot my computer I get the (!) Error code 43. I installed the XP Drivers and they work fine but no Aero. When I use the Vista Upgrade Advisor it says that my computers GPU is capable of running windows vista Aero. (DX9, PX2) but the problem is that the WDDM drivers in vista dont work. Any one found a solution for this yet?

Thanks!

NickWhiteUK · Aug 15, 2007, 04:48 PM

Hello guys,

Same problem here on a acer Aspire 1670 with a Mobility Radeon 9700, driving me nuts!