Zardon

The first pictures of the new 5970 have been posted online and while we already know the specifications unfortunately as Driverheaven is under NDA we can't release them. The card is 13.5 inches long and takes around 300w power, so time for a PSU upgrade for many people!

You can however see the information on the card over here (as well as some nice pictures, and we can't get blamed for it !

Allan Campbell: Heaven Media

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OldBuzzard

Dang, I was all excited when you first mentioned the 5970 and said that it was a dual CORE card.

I mean that rascal does look like a beast, but it's still just an X2 with a different name

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Zardon

Sometimes we don't get all the info, we do our best

Trying to get up to the minute news to you guys now via my sources and contacts which I never did before, hopefully its at least interesting or worthwhile!

isaak

much appreciated Zardon doing a great job

13.5inches. wow.

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niceguyrichy

show off...


oh wait. you meant the card.. :P

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BlueMak

ok, seriously, what the flap is wrong with ATI? Is the most expensive part of the card the cooling system? What's with the tiny fan? ffs.


Other than that, thanks Z.

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isaak

Lol richy don't get ahead of yourself !

If it was going to change at all it would have changed for the 5xxx series...but it didn't really so wasn't expecting much difference for this card. They will just put up with the usual complaints and wait until aftermarket companies get onto it.

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OldBuzzard

That's OK Z. Not much you can do when a marketing weasel gives you bad info.

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comp_ali

Very long card that even full tower can get it in , the cooling solution is bad like mentioned.

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isaak

We'll see

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Cow_160483

Good info thanks

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rajivsci

Quick update zardon pro, nice of u to share this info, and yes nobody will blame you for that

The Original site that showed these pics also uploaded pics of benchmark for some games. If i could find ill get those pic soon.

If zardon allows offcourse. will send u pm if i find benchmark pics. cu zardon.

I have already send zardon benchmark pics of futuremark, crysis warhead and stalker. which i found on net. I hope he puts them. here.

IvanV

Wow, that's a lengthy card! My case is largish (EATX compatible, 17.5" long without the front door bulge), but I'd have to remove the lower drive bay to fit this. Still, I'm pretty sure that it would fit, so if anyone is wondering whether they should buy me one, no need to hesitate.

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Zardon

Thank you for offering me the courtesy in your PM. I can't post them myself as im under signed NDA and even though I didn't originate the information/screenshots, its a grey area. But feel free to post whatever you want to share in here as you aren't under any legal obligations!

DJ BIG T

its very nice card and very long 13.5" is a big card..cant wait to see what that bad boy can do..

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rajivsci

finally i found 5970 pics on net. great. these r the links. they have benchmark pics. cheers.

Radeon HD 5870 X2 (HD 5970) Benchmarks and Images Surface !

Tech4Pcs.com - Radeon HD 5970 (HD 5870X2): Nuevas fotos y primeros benchmarks

enjoy guys, google is paradise.

BlueMak

I am not exactly overwhelmed by the numbers posted there.

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skylineaddict

So, that tiny fan is meant to cool two cores and [maybe, hopefully] 2GB of GDDR5 memory? That's a little ridiculous.. I wish I could design the cooling system for that card.. I think I could do a better job.

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Bolletje

Thanks for the info

(You are writing a lot these days isn't it? )

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Zardon

We are launching a new news section shortly - and ive reporters in various parts of the world - with some company investment, so yeah its a short test before we launch the new section on DH.

Bolletje

Oo, ok. Nice to see.

Good luck with it I hope it turns out well

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Judas

wtb a DUAL Core solution...

i'm no longer at all interested in dual GPU solution

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Just Learnin'

Interesting, appreciate the info. Wish Nvidia would step up with their "reply".

Zardon

Yeah this is something we have discussed before, I think ATI/AMD had ordered a few billion of those red fans and they need to clear stock. Its annoying to see them constantly being used, as a larger more capable fan can effectively spin much slower and push just as much air.

its a shame when people invest in good quality chassis fans such as noctua to keep noise down and get great CFM and their graphics card basically needs taken apart with a third party cooler to do the job right.

Bolletje

Yeah, but people that are getting Noctua fans often also like PC hardware and they know the ins and outs. In most cases they know the way to get a new cooler installed.
Not that big problem. New cooler will also drive up the costs.

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Zardon

its not a big problem I agree. It would just be nice to see better reference cooling solutions - it wouldn't drive up costs very much at all, not in the massive bulk productions of either ATI or Nvidia. Maybe you are right however, perhaps the audience on DH expect more (and can mod easier) than the mass consumer.

Bolletje

Uhu, this while cooling from low-end cards is extremely well. Sparkle for example adds a quite huge passive cooling to a 9500GT. It's like 45 degrees Celcius @ load with a 50% overclock.

Maybe, but if it isn't neccesary they won't do it. The card works fine with this silly fan and the temperature of GPU's can go way up.

Uhu, now people have a choice and can mount their own coolers.

People want a good stock cooler? Some partners have them. Vapor-X serie from Sapphire for example or watercooled cards from Zotac/BFG. If you make a supreme stock cooler, then those aftermarket coolers wouldn't make a lot of sense.

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BlueMak

People that do not wish to overclock should have to to have to decide between having a non burned graphics card or a hoover inside their PC.

If I turn the 4870X2 up to 100% it is like a jet engine. That is unacceptable. Even at about 60% which is the top I usually set it at to have a temp not high than 70ish, it is too loud.

It's like buying a $5000 PC and having a $70 PSU. It might work but it yells "bad decision".

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Alex

This is a thread on a 5970, not a 9500GT. Most high end reference cooling solutions are rubbish. the 4870, 4870 X2 for instance. the little fan did NOT handle those cards unless you went into ear piercing mode. I had several of each and a few of them died - ATI were on forums saying "100c is perfectly fine, they are made to withstand that" - rubbish - PCBs when they reach a certain thermal temperature start to fail, over time. There were even threads on DH about how to fine tune the coolers. its up to ATi and Nvidia to sort out the reference coolers.

Who says it isn't necessary? You? I think it is, quite a few people do too. once again a lot of the cards dont work fine, If you look for 4870 X2 overheating issues for instance, quite a lot of them failed. A better fan/cooler would have helped this. the fact they are still using the same mickey mouse cooler just shows its cost cutting. I am not singling out ATI either, Nvidia have done it on some of their cards too. this isn't an attack on ATI. its just the same silly little fans being used from mid range to high end boards.


Uhu, what? People who are educated have a choice. Those who aren't stick with the crappy reference coolers. Its also expensive to buy a third party cooler and I don't think people should be forced to do it if they want good temperatures without having an apache in their case.

Thats not a 'reference' or stock 'cooler' thats Sapphire fixing ATI's dumb decisions. I wouldn't be surprised if some underhanded deal was made between ATI and these cooler makers such as arctic cooling before hand.

humonous

the card looks brilliant, but most ATI cards do look sexy. I would hate to see a repeat of the 4870 X2 all over again, the cooling solution was not good enough. mine died I got it RMA'd but I sold it to a friend, it was just too hot and raised my case temps and if I manually adjusted it it drove me nuts.

Its part of the reason I moved to a mid range card to get the noise down and not have to worry during games that the card was sitting at 98c (which 4870x2 did if I left it to run auto). I don't feel comfortable changing the coolers on cards either as it voids your warranty.

This cooler on this looks the same, or close as earlier models. Not good to see (anyone remember the leadtek cooling solutions? those rocked!)