HD 5970 dual RV870 due for release - very soon

***Zardon*** · Oct 29, 2009, 07:49 AM

I had a chat this morning with an undisclosed AMD partner and a dual core R800 card is due for release at the end of November.

The cards are in development but many details are being kept hush hush but we reckon the brand name will be 5970.

With ATI already leading the performance charts, this is sure to push them even further ahead, and we can only sit back and wait until Nvidia have some kind of reply. We will keep you posted when we hear info (as long as we can word it so we don't break NDA!).

Allan Campbell: Heaven Media

***craig5320*** · Oct 29, 2009, 08:05 AM

Wow that's quick, 5870's are barely in stores. But if you've got it flaunt it.

Cow_160483 · Oct 29, 2009, 08:09 AM

Hell ya that's what i like to hear

keep pushing the envelope ATI/AMD

**kris23** · Oct 29, 2009, 08:30 AM

wooooooottttt!!!! money in hand.....

BlueMak · Oct 29, 2009, 08:43 AM

Nice! Thanks for the info.

IvanV · Oct 29, 2009, 08:47 AM

They need to capitalize on being the only ones with a DX11 solution and they also need something that clearly outperforms a 4870X2. As a consumer and tech lover, I say "Keep 'em coming!"

Chaos · Oct 29, 2009, 09:17 AM

I wonder if they will have stock of the 5800 series anywhere in the near future, I know NCIX and NewEgg are out of stock on the 5850 and 5870. I got my 5850 local and they still have a couple as far as I know. If anyone in Canada is on the hunt they can try MysteryByte Computers

clanman · Oct 29, 2009, 09:23 AM

any ideas on the price? must be around the 500 mark.

Judas · Oct 29, 2009, 10:20 AM

i can get stock on all the 5xxx series yet

SeraphicSorcerer · Oct 29, 2009, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by craig5320

Wow that's quick, 5870's are barely in stores. But if you've got it flaunt it.

If only cards had cleavage.

Can't wait for the 5870x2

Neshi · Oct 29, 2009, 12:06 PM

would this mean a pricedrop for the current 58xx as well?

Gastrian · Oct 29, 2009, 12:25 PM

Just so I don't get confused, this is not a 5xxx X2 card which is two GPUS on one card in a Crossfire setup but is a single GPU solution? How does this work? Will the system still recognise it as two seperate GPUs and limit you to Crossfire driver performance? Performance wise what are the theoretical improvements?

Chaos · Oct 29, 2009, 05:22 PM

It is 2 GPU's on 1 board and yes they are both detected. It's basically Crossfire done on the board instead of using the ribbon connector. It should be superior to 2 separate cards connected by a ribbon and only uses 1 PCI-e slot

BlueMak · Oct 29, 2009, 06:56 PM

So it is a X2 card in all but the name?

**kris23** · Oct 29, 2009, 08:09 PM

yup.... no more X2 naming.... they wanted to copy nvidia with its 285-295 thing going on....

BlueMak · Oct 29, 2009, 08:13 PM

I think I like it, reason being many times people would use X2 when they were talking about two cards and not the X2 model.

OldBuzzard · Oct 30, 2009, 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chaos

It is 2 GPU's on 1 board and yes they are both detected. It's basically Crossfire done on the board instead of using the ribbon connector. It should be superior to 2 separate cards connected by a ribbon and only uses 1 PCI-e slot

Uh, you just described the current X2 cards. If that's what they are talking about then it would hardly be 'news'.

Note, Z said DUAL CORE. That would be 2 GPU's on one chip, just like the multi-core CPUs, and THAT is news, as it would be the first multi-core GPU on the market.

rajivsci · Oct 30, 2009, 06:03 AM

Ati seems to sell all its gpu before Nvidia releases its hardware in market. It seems they r scared they won't sell anything once nvidia cards come out. lol

Or is it that they made extra cards already in haste to defeat nvidia and now they r launching them one by one.

What ever Ati will remain ati.

OldBuzzard · Oct 30, 2009, 06:34 AM

Well DANG. It IS an X2 they just gave it a different name

Danged markleting weasels

Z had me all

when he called it a dual core

comp_ali · Oct 30, 2009, 07:02 AM

That should be blast , less power consumption and heat emission than 2X 5870.

isaak · Oct 30, 2009, 07:02 AM

Lol Buzzard

dual core gpu solutions will come in time

sammorris · Nov 13, 2009, 12:24 AM

When you're done benchmarking it.... dibs

The 4870X2 ES I bought from Allan is still going strong today.

To be honest, if it gets released before christmas, I'll be waiting a little bit, since I won't actually be able to afford anything until after then. Still, driver maturity, partner brands and so on will hopefully be well-established by January.
Now just waiting on the MSI Fuzion board so I can do the rest of the job...

Bolletje · Nov 17, 2009, 10:32 AM

Some pics that I saw:

And click for Sapphire !

30,4 CM long | 12 inch.

bratboy · Nov 17, 2009, 01:04 PM

Hummm, now If I can just get one ordered somewhere hehe. Has anyone seen one actully for sale yet anywhere? I guess Zipzoomfly posted it for a day or so but then pulled the link

On a side note tho I notice on the 5970 it looks like no HDMI connector.

***Zardon*** · Nov 17, 2009, 01:22 PM

our review will be up tomorrow morning guys, sitting ready for NDA to break. I can say no more

Bolletje · Nov 17, 2009, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zardon

our review will be up tomorrow morning guys, sitting ready for NDA to break. I can say no more

You've said enough :P

Chaos · Nov 17, 2009, 01:39 PM

damn where is that hyperspace button when i need it

bratboy · Nov 18, 2009, 11:58 AM

Well I bit the bullet and ordered one. The atricle doesnt mention how much bigger tthe card is from a 4870x2 and hopefully it will fit <crossing fingers>

***Zardon*** · Nov 18, 2009, 12:02 PM

the 5970 is 12 inches. We jokingly refer to it as the "black man' video card. (no offense to coloured people on the forums!)

bratboy · Nov 18, 2009, 04:16 PM

Well I haven't measured the space in my box but hopefully there won't be a problem as I have a full tower case. I have a Sapphire 4870x2 in there right now, does anyone know the size of that card off hand?

Oct 29, 2009, 07:49 AM	#1
*Zardon* enchanted Join Date: May 2002 Location: Driverheaven Posts: 32,293 Rep Power: 3150	HD 5970 dual RV870 due for release - very soon I had a chat this morning with an undisclosed AMD partner and a dual core R800 card is due for release at the end of November. The cards are in development but many details are being kept hush hush but we reckon the brand name will be 5970. With ATI already leading the performance charts, this is sure to push them even further ahead, and we can only sit back and wait until Nvidia have some kind of reply. We will keep you posted when we hear info (as long as we can word it so we don't break NDA!). Allan Campbell: Heaven Media

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IvanV DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 3,152 Rep Power: 65 System Specs	Re: HD 5970 dual RV870 due for release - very soon They need to capitalize on being the only ones with a DX11 solution and they also need something that clearly outperforms a 4870X2. As a consumer and tech lover, I say "Keep 'em coming!" __________________ Feed the porkers and don't touch the buttons!

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Chaos Number Nine Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 5,185 Rep Power: 94 System Specs	Re: HD 5970 dual RV870 due for release - very soon I wonder if they will have stock of the 5800 series anywhere in the near future, I know NCIX and NewEgg are out of stock on the 5850 and 5870. I got my 5850 local and they still have a couple as far as I know. If anyone in Canada is on the hunt they can try MysteryByte Computers __________________

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Gastrian DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 61 Rep Power: 38	Re: HD 5970 dual RV870 due for release - very soon Just so I don't get confused, this is not a 5xxx X2 card which is two GPUS on one card in a Crossfire setup but is a single GPU solution? How does this work? Will the system still recognise it as two seperate GPUs and limit you to Crossfire driver performance? Performance wise what are the theoretical improvements? __________________ Current PC Athlon XP 64 3200+ (S939) 2GB DDR RAM 128MB GeForce 6600GT Windows 7 Beta/Win XP Pro

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Chaos Number Nine Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 5,185 Rep Power: 94 System Specs	Re: HD 5970 dual RV870 due for release - very soon It is 2 GPU's on 1 board and yes they are both detected. It's basically Crossfire done on the board instead of using the ribbon connector. It should be superior to 2 separate cards connected by a ribbon and only uses 1 PCI-e slot __________________

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BlueMak DH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 8,265 Rep Power: 118 System Specs	Re: HD 5970 dual RV870 due for release - very soon So it is a X2 card in all but the name? __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*

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kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,316 Rep Power: 64 System Specs	Re: HD 5970 dual RV870 due for release - very soon yup.... no more X2 naming.... they wanted to copy nvidia with its 285-295 thing going on.... __________________ Driverheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (9/4/09) New i5 systems with more to come! Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

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BlueMak DH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 8,265 Rep Power: 118 System Specs	Re: HD 5970 dual RV870 due for release - very soon I think I like it, reason being many times people would use X2 when they were talking about two cards and not the X2 model. __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*

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rajivsci DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: India Posts: 82 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Re: HD 5970 dual RV870 due for release - very soon Ati seems to sell all its gpu before Nvidia releases its hardware in market. It seems they r scared they won't sell anything once nvidia cards come out. lol Or is it that they made extra cards already in haste to defeat nvidia and now they r launching them one by one. What ever Ati will remain ati.

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OldBuzzard DH's oldest Geek? Join Date: May 2003 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 2,225 Rep Power: 83 System Specs	Re: HD 5970 dual RV870 due for release - very soon Well DANG. It IS an X2 they just gave it a different name Danged markleting weasels Z had me all when he called it a dual core __________________ When looking for a reason as to why things go wrong, never rule out sheer STUPIDITY

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isaak DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 927 Rep Power: 23 System Specs	Re: HD 5970 dual RV870 due for release - very soon Lol Buzzard dual core gpu solutions will come in time __________________

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bratboy DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 132 Rep Power: 0	Re: HD 5970 dual RV870 due for release - very soon Hummm, now If I can just get one ordered somewhere hehe. Has anyone seen one actully for sale yet anywhere? I guess Zipzoomfly posted it for a day or so but then pulled the link On a side note tho I notice on the 5970 it looks like no HDMI connector.

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*Zardon* enchanted Join Date: May 2002 Location: Driverheaven Posts: 32,293 Rep Power: 3150	Re: HD 5970 dual RV870 due for release - very soon our review will be up tomorrow morning guys, sitting ready for NDA to break. I can say no more

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bratboy DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 132 Rep Power: 0	Re: HD 5970 dual RV870 due for release - very soon Well I bit the bullet and ordered one. The atricle doesnt mention how much bigger tthe card is from a 4870x2 and hopefully it will fit <crossing fingers>

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*Zardon* enchanted Join Date: May 2002 Location: Driverheaven Posts: 32,293 Rep Power: 3150	Re: HD 5970 dual RV870 due for release - very soon the 5970 is 12 inches. We jokingly refer to it as the "black man' video card. (no offense to coloured people on the forums!)

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bratboy DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 132 Rep Power: 0	Re: HD 5970 dual RV870 due for release - very soon Well I haven't measured the space in my box but hopefully there won't be a problem as I have a full tower case. I have a Sapphire 4870x2 in there right now, does anyone know the size of that card off hand?

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