Building an AMD system

***Zardon*** · Jan 3, 2004, 04:58 PM

Jon has our first guide done, which is "building your first AMD system", click the link to visit the guide.

Please post your comments or questions in this thread, cheers.

shortstuff · Jan 3, 2004, 05:49 PM

VERY nice guide wildchild.

Very easy to understand and follow.

Great job.

**Roadee** · Jan 3, 2004, 07:12 PM

I think just about anyone can follow that guide........good job and great pics. Straight and to the point.

toddsmack2k · Jan 3, 2004, 09:01 PM

Excellent job Jon! Very nice guide I hope to see more of them from you.

Markius · Jan 3, 2004, 11:36 PM

great guide wildchild.
and i think the driverheaven guides forum is a GREAT idea.

The_Neon_Cowboy · Jan 4, 2004, 01:29 AM

cool....

(quickly scratches something off on his "to do list")

Ev!L-aLphA · Jan 4, 2004, 01:52 AM

great i showed my friends and they are really happy

great job wildchild

HsuGotaQ · Jan 4, 2004, 01:57 AM

Kewl. A very clear guide you've done there wildchild. I've gotta send this to my co-workers so that they can finally see things other than Intel. Thx a mil!

WildChild · Jan 4, 2004, 03:54 AM

Thank you for the kind words.There will be many more to come,next one will involve the 64 bit ,sata raid setups,and some other goodies.
Thanks again.

kinetic · Jan 4, 2004, 03:55 AM

Very concise and easy to follow Wildchild! Great job!

WildChild · Jan 4, 2004, 04:03 AM

I tried to make it as simplistic as I could....To where anyone (with limited knowledge)could actually do it themselves.

**MIG-31** · Jan 4, 2004, 08:16 AM

excellent news on your new position wildchild.

ok i suppose for amd,but a small point were is one for those who prefer Intel?(if i can comment on that in a amd thread

)

***Zardon*** · Jan 4, 2004, 08:18 AM

thats one of the future projects.

**MIG-31** · Jan 4, 2004, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zardon
thats one of the future projects.

np,i don't have a preference for either i just goes for what i think is the best for me at the time of upgrades.

it will be good to see one for intel in the futrure then at least we can get good advice from both sides before choosing.

Falstaff · Jan 4, 2004, 08:27 AM

Quote:

I tried to make it as simplistic as possible

Thanx Jon.....doh

Personally, I balked at the idea, and preferred to have WildChild build me one. I have fried two mobos recently attempting to rework bios and install upgrading. I am an AMD fan now, and will download this for furture reference. 64 is the way to go!!!!

Judas · Jan 4, 2004, 12:16 PM

Good review...... only one part i can think of that's missing... and usually isn't thought of..... motherboard placement.... some weird cases actually don't setup there mounts correctly at all.. and some aren't even removeable..... most of the biggest problems come from OEM machines that specifically design the case/motherboard .... that you have to buy either the exact... or one of THERE motherboard to upgrade...... I showed my case but cutting.dicing.... and basically making a mess but useable mess out of it.......

@/2ct!< · Jan 4, 2004, 02:20 PM

Yes, I plan to build my 1st comp this summer and every guide helps a little, this helps a lot

WildChild · Jan 4, 2004, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Judas
Good review...... only one part i can think of that's missing... and usually isn't thought of..... motherboard placement.... some weird cases actually don't setup there mounts correctly at all.. and some aren't even removeable..... most of the biggest problems come from OEM machines that specifically design the case/motherboard .... that you have to buy either the exact... or one of THERE motherboard to upgrade...... I showed my case but cutting.dicing.... and basically making a mess but useable mess out of it.......

I dont know what cases you have bought in the past, but I would say 99.5 percent of the cases purchased will have the correct placement of the mounting screws and if it is for some reason mucked up ...take it back and get a good one, as for proprietary boards /systems,thats not what this guide was made for.It was made for people to get a better understanding of building a new system from scratch, not mixmatching this and that and trying to make it work.

WildChild · Jan 4, 2004, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by @/2ct!<
Yes, I plan to build my 1st comp this summer and every guide helps a little, this helps a lot

If you need help feel free to ask.

Falstaff · Jan 5, 2004, 12:34 AM

OEM?

**Roadee** · Jan 5, 2004, 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by fallang_jeff
OEM?

Dell, HP, Sony..........ect

dorkz · Jan 5, 2004, 06:27 AM

lovely, I will use this this week! gr8. thx jon!

WildChild · Jan 5, 2004, 08:18 PM

Your welcome man, glad you will be able to use the guide.

mainman · Jan 7, 2004, 01:04 AM

Very nice guide bud, very easy to understand. Congrats on a job well done!!!

Gary King · Aug 2, 2004, 05:46 PM

Thanks I'll probably be using this guide as well; I printed it already, just in case

CDsDontBurn · Aug 10, 2004, 02:33 AM

very easy to follow indeed. For those of you building p4 systems, everything is the same except for the heatsink mounting is slightly different.

MythicaL · Aug 17, 2004, 01:06 PM

Forgot to mention thermal paste on the CPU?

WildChild · Aug 17, 2004, 02:41 PM

No...the heatsink comes with the paste on it, I'm not going to tell people to use something that would void their warranty.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mYthicaL

Forgot to mention thermal paste on the CPU?

CDsDontBurn · Aug 18, 2004, 04:06 AM

thermal paste comes w/the stock heatsink/fan usually when a retail CPU is purchased. But the OEM CPUs are just the CPU itself. the HSF should have it's own thermal paste seperately in the package, and if not, then one can buy some.

and why would it void the warranty? as far as i know, warranty is only voided when OCing occurs.

Matth · Aug 18, 2004, 07:59 AM

There are other types of case-motherboard fittings....

The clips that are set into holes in the case plate, by inserting and twisting 90 degrees.
Invariably, one will not clip very well, one will not take a fixing screw, and one more may be equally troublesome, plus you NEVER have as many as you'd like to use.

Plastic slide-posts are not seen on modern cases, but you may see some plastic buffer posts that can be used on a motherbord fixing with no matching case hole, to prevent flexing under pressure (connector/CPU area).

Cases usually have positions marked for varioious sizes of board, so the first step is to see which pattern is a match (if any) - sometimes you just have to check it by eye, or even resort to shining a light through and offerring up the motherboard.

A post fitted where it does not match the motherboard, will either short it out, scratch the tracks, or just prevent the motherboard fitting at all

Jan 3, 2004, 04:58 PM	#1
*Zardon* enchanted Join Date: May 2002 Location: Driverheaven Posts: 32,273 Rep Power: 3150	Building an AMD system Jon has our first guide done, which is "building your first AMD system", click the link to visit the guide. Please post your comments or questions in this thread, cheers.

Jan 3, 2004, 05:49 PM	#2
shortstuff Sweetness Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,835 Rep Power: 0	VERY nice guide wildchild. Very easy to understand and follow. Great job. __________________ [color=Indigo]Joe "Roadee" Dawson R.I.P my friend. You will be missed [/color] If we keep doing what we've always done, we'll keep getting what we've always got.

Jan 3, 2004, 07:12 PM	#3
Roadee Never forgotten Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Rest In peace, Joe. Posts: 2,202 Rep Power: 54	I think just about anyone can follow that guide........good job and great pics. Straight and to the point. __________________ We are born naked, wet, and hungry. Then things get worse.

Jan 3, 2004, 09:01 PM	#4
toddsmack2k It Never..... Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,174 Rep Power: 0	Excellent job Jon! Very nice guide I hope to see more of them from you. __________________ [color=blue]*Bleeding From the Inside Pouring Out, The* *DriverHeaven* Spiral, We Shall Never Let Go Of.[/color]

Jan 3, 2004, 11:36 PM	#5
Markius DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 2,350 Rep Power: 0	great guide wildchild. and i think the driverheaven guides forum is a GREAT idea. __________________ DriverHeavens Aussie... "Lifes tragedy is that we get old too soon and wise too late"

Jan 4, 2004, 01:29 AM	#6
The_Neon_Cowboy DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,135 Rep Power: 77 System Specs	cool.... (quickly scratches something off on his "to do list") __________________

Jan 4, 2004, 01:52 AM	#7
Ev!L-aLphA \| n f e c t e D Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: California Posts: 4,116 Rep Power: 46	great i showed my friends and they are really happy great job wildchild __________________ R.I.P 8/8/04 4/21/08 Last edited by Ev!L-aLphA; Jan 4, 2004 at 01:58 AM.

Jan 4, 2004, 01:57 AM	#8
HsuGotaQ Hydrogenated Dumbass Join Date: May 2002 Location: Canuckland Posts: 755 Rep Power: 0	Kewl. A very clear guide you've done there wildchild. I've gotta send this to my co-workers so that they can finally see things other than Intel. Thx a mil!

Jan 4, 2004, 03:54 AM	#9
WildChild I'm Still Watching Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New Jersey,U.S.A. Posts: 1,125 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Thank you for the kind words.There will be many more to come,next one will involve the 64 bit ,sata raid setups,and some other goodies. Thanks again. __________________ Knowledge is SCARY,Stupidity is REALLY frightening

Jan 4, 2004, 03:55 AM	#10
kinetic DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Manchester England Posts: 2,559 Rep Power: 0	Very concise and easy to follow Wildchild! Great job!

Jan 4, 2004, 04:03 AM	#11
WildChild I'm Still Watching Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New Jersey,U.S.A. Posts: 1,125 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	I tried to make it as simplistic as I could....To where anyone (with limited knowledge)could actually do it themselves. __________________ Knowledge is SCARY,Stupidity is REALLY frightening

Jan 4, 2004, 08:16 AM	#12
MIG-31 DH News MOD Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Nottingham,UK Posts: 42,597 Rep Power: 186 System Specs	excellent news on your new position wildchild. ok i suppose for amd,but a small point were is one for those who prefer Intel?(if i can comment on that in a amd thread) __________________ Please Post Your News Submissions Here How you can help DriverHeaven by using Digg!

Jan 4, 2004, 08:18 AM	#13
*Zardon* enchanted Join Date: May 2002 Location: Driverheaven Posts: 32,273 Rep Power: 3150	thats one of the future projects.

Jan 4, 2004, 02:20 PM	#17
@/2ct!< DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Not Vegas, anymore :( Posts: 1,384 Rep Power: 0	Yes, I plan to build my 1st comp this summer and every guide helps a little, this helps a lot __________________

Jan 5, 2004, 12:34 AM	#20
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 18,145 Rep Power: 131	OEM? __________________ The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the scythe.

Jan 5, 2004, 06:27 AM	#22
dorkz Striving to overcome Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 102 Rep Power: 0	lovely, I will use this this week! gr8. thx jon!

Jan 5, 2004, 08:18 PM	#23
WildChild I'm Still Watching Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New Jersey,U.S.A. Posts: 1,125 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Your welcome man, glad you will be able to use the guide. __________________ Knowledge is SCARY,Stupidity is REALLY frightening

Jan 7, 2004, 01:04 AM	#24
mainman Mr. Nobody Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: OmniPresent Nightwatcher Posts: 5,939 Rep Power: 53	Very nice guide bud, very easy to understand. Congrats on a job well done!!! __________________

Aug 2, 2004, 05:46 PM	#25
Gary King DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	Thanks I'll probably be using this guide as well; I printed it already, just in case __________________ Gary King

Aug 10, 2004, 02:33 AM	#26
CDsDontBurn 127.0.0.1 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 21,849 Rep Power: 133 System Specs	very easy to follow indeed. For those of you building p4 systems, everything is the same except for the heatsink mounting is slightly different. __________________ CD's Corner // Her first day // A year later // RX-8 Club 3Dmark06 - 4176 // 3Dmark05 - 7459 // 3Dmark03 - 14289 // PCmark05 - 4453 // PCmark04 - 6297

Aug 17, 2004, 01:06 PM	#27
MythicaL Genuine coding face below Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: My home, of course Posts: 3,123 Rep Power: 52 System Specs	Forgot to mention thermal paste on the CPU? __________________ Always knew I didn't belong in this world. I wasn't made for this. But I'll never forget those who betrayed me, and those who never failed my trust.

Aug 18, 2004, 04:06 AM	#29
CDsDontBurn 127.0.0.1 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 21,849 Rep Power: 133 System Specs	thermal paste comes w/the stock heatsink/fan usually when a retail CPU is purchased. But the OEM CPUs are just the CPU itself. the HSF should have it's own thermal paste seperately in the package, and if not, then one can buy some. and why would it void the warranty? as far as i know, warranty is only voided when OCing occurs. __________________ CD's Corner // Her first day // A year later // RX-8 Club 3Dmark06 - 4176 // 3Dmark05 - 7459 // 3Dmark03 - 14289 // PCmark05 - 4453 // PCmark04 - 6297

Aug 18, 2004, 07:59 AM	#30
Matth Flash Banner Hater Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: UK Posts: 3,203 Rep Power: 58 System Specs	There are other types of case-motherboard fittings.... The clips that are set into holes in the case plate, by inserting and twisting 90 degrees. Invariably, one will not clip very well, one will not take a fixing screw, and one more may be equally troublesome, plus you NEVER have as many as you'd like to use. Plastic slide-posts are not seen on modern cases, but you may see some plastic buffer posts that can be used on a motherbord fixing with no matching case hole, to prevent flexing under pressure (connector/CPU area). Cases usually have positions marked for varioious sizes of board, so the first step is to see which pattern is a match (if any) - sometimes you just have to check it by eye, or even resort to shining a light through and offerring up the motherboard. A post fitted where it does not match the motherboard, will either short it out, scratch the tracks, or just prevent the motherboard fitting at all