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Sep 19, 2008, 07:20 AM
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DH Administrator
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Sapphire Radeon HD 4670 @ DH
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Not that long ago Nvidia were showing some real dominance in the graphics card market as ATI struggled to remain competitive with their Radeon HD 2000 and 3000 series products. ATI managed to get themselves back into a competitive state with the release of the 4870 and 4870 X2 that offer a good alternative to the GeForce GTX series of cards. As most of us know the 4870 X2 is the fastest single card solution available at time of writing.
As with all new product ranges as time progresses the technology trickles down into the lower end parts and that is why we are here today, the launch of an R700 based budget product, the Radeon HD 4670. This card retails for £60/$80 and so should be well within the price range of most consumers, but is it worth buying if you are a gamer? It is our job today to find out, and we will also test them in Crossfire to see the possible gains if you upgraded at a later date.
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Sep 19, 2008, 08:04 AM
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...just bummin 'round
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nice read and nice bundle with this lil performer. the crossfire scaling is great and i am glad to see it. would have liked to see some 4850 numbers tossed in there aswell for reference. you guys should have a look at some of the 1 GB 4850's and 4870 and there performance. newegg has quite a few listed. im speciffically interested in a 4850 1 GB core OC'd to 4870 speeds and any benefit or mootness of the GDDR5 speeds.
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Sep 19, 2008, 09:38 AM
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DH's Dormant Dragon
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nice.... 884.8Ghz core... that's amazing!
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Sep 19, 2008, 10:17 AM
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Interesting, wonder if it would be a drop-in upgrade for most midrange card that don't use a power feed?
Wonder if it's any hungrier than an X700 Pro ?
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Sep 19, 2008, 02:09 PM
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Some nice results, especially Crysis, for such a lightweight card.
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Sep 19, 2008, 02:36 PM
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Chilling... :)
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Interesting card, but if I read the results correct, it should be a tad slower then HD 3850 512 MB in most games, which here in Denmark is actually cheaper.
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Sep 19, 2008, 02:47 PM
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Lower power consumption and similar performance as the HD3850. That's a nice enough improvement in its class. There should be some fanless cards out soon.
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Sep 19, 2008, 03:13 PM
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DH's Dormant Dragon
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i'm actually waiting for the HD4450 series to show up.... as i typically use those in my cheaper budget end machines... the 3450's do very well considering.....
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Sep 19, 2008, 03:50 PM
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how many systems do you build a week Judas?
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Sep 19, 2008, 04:01 PM
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DH's Dormant Dragon
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depends...
recently i've moved about 15 machines within the last 2-3 weeks
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Sep 21, 2008, 05:15 AM
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Nice! I'm getting closer to deciding to make a new build and I'll certainly consider the 4670. 
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Sep 24, 2008, 03:53 AM
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Well there's a error in the article the enw budget line in fact isn't based on the R700 / rv700 series but on old rv610 and rv630 cores So again ATi simply changed names for old products to get rid of the overstock. You can confirm this by looking @ the new 8.9 drivers.. Just wanted to let everybody know. I can't say this for 100% certain but why would they use X6 / rv610 / rv630 driver settings if it's based on a rv730/rv700 series? makes no sence.
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Sep 24, 2008, 12:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KillerSneak
Well there's a error in the article the enw budget line in fact isn't based on the R700 / rv700 series but on old rv610 and rv630 cores So again ATi simply changed names for old products to get rid of the overstock. You can confirm this by looking @ the new 8.9 drivers.. Just wanted to let everybody know. I can't say this for 100% certain but why would they use X6 / rv610 / rv630 driver settings if it's based on a rv730/rv700 series? makes no sence.
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There is no error in the article, the 4670 is based on the R700 series, and in the drivers it is stated as such. The 8.9 catalysts don't even contain an inf line for the 4670, it isn't supported until Catalyst 8.10.
If you had said some of the upcoming cards may be based on the R600 series then you may have been right, but on the 4670 you are wrong.
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Sep 24, 2008, 12:47 PM
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when people ask me "hey Luke why don't you install cool 3rd party modded drivers?".
A prime example why, they aint got a clue 
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Sep 24, 2008, 04:56 PM
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DNA Driver creator
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Veridian3
There is no error in the article, the 4670 is based on the R700 series, and in the drivers it is stated as such. The 8.9 catalysts don't even contain an inf line for the 4670, it isn't supported until Catalyst 8.10.
If you had said some of the upcoming cards may be based on the R600 series then you may have been right, but on the 4670 you are wrong.
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Then tell me why the newer budget series are:
"ATI Radeon HD 4730" = ati2mtag_RV630, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9505&SUBSYS_3002148C
"ATI Radeon HD 4730" = ati2mtag_RV630, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9505&SUBSYS_3001148C
"ATI Radeon HD 4750" = ati2mtag_RV630, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9505&SUBSYS_3003148C
"ATI Radeon HD 4750" = ati2mtag_RV630, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9505&SUBSYS_3004148C
Wouldn't it be strange that a lower budget serie will be based on a newer core?
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Originally Posted by LukeK
when people ask me "hey Luke why don't you install cool 3rd party modded drivers?".
A prime example why, they aint got a clue 
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Ehh sure m8 no clue? This article is trying to sell a lower end budget card as R700 based what i seriously doubt as newer buget cards (as stated above in the ATI Catalyst driver) are using rv610- / rv630 code paths so i won't believe this, or ATi is seriouslt screwing something up in their drivers
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Sep 25, 2008, 06:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KillerSneak
Ehh sure m8 no clue?
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Yes you have no clue, you never had any clue, and you still don't. Stunned you aren't still banned here for your idioticy over the years. Im guessing if you come onto the site and in your ignorance start shouting at the admins and telling them they are reviewing "wrong" because you still dont understand the infs (scary though people use your drivers), then I hoping that might change.
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Sep 25, 2008, 06:04 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KillerSneak
Then tell me why the newer budget series are:
"ATI Radeon HD 4730" = ati2mtag_RV630, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9505&SUBSYS_3002148C
"ATI Radeon HD 4730" = ati2mtag_RV630, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9505&SUBSYS_3001148C
"ATI Radeon HD 4750" = ati2mtag_RV630, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9505&SUBSYS_3003148C
"ATI Radeon HD 4750" = ati2mtag_RV630, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9505&SUBSYS_3004148C
Wouldn't it be strange that a lower budget serie will be based on a newer core?
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Thats marketing for you.
The RV730 based 4670 doesn't always beat some of the older RV630 based cards (due to the configuration of the core) but when you call something "4670" and another product in your range "3650" the uneducated public expect the 4670 to be the better card when in fact it is not necessarily the case.
So they are re-positioning the RV630 in the product catalogue by calling some of the cards 4750 etc. Its a common practice, just like when Nvidia rebadged some of the Geforce 2 cards as Geforce 4.
That doesn't stop the 4670 from being a true RV730 card.
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Sep 25, 2008, 06:07 AM
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I think you might be wasting your time explaining it Veridian3 
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