3538i bug reports

**Eugene Gavrilov** · Jul 26, 2005, 06:42 PM

please post your 3538i-specific bug reports here. please review 'known issues' before reporting any bugs. thanks.

E.

Darth Valium · Jul 27, 2005, 04:34 AM

1st: Big thanks to Eugene for the new release!!! Hail to the king.
2nd: Still no sound from the rear-channel(front(or rear, if you swap) & center/lfe is working) SC is reported as SB0229. Any ideas how to fix it or back to 3538h and Russ's plug-in?

[source]
----Hardware / Software configuration---------------
Treibername:kX Audio Driver (Debug)
Treiberdatum: Jul 14 2005 17:03:16
Treiberversion: 5.10.00.3538 - debug
DB Name:none
SB022xb 10k1 [8000]
PCI Information:
Device: 21102 Subsys: 100a1102 ChipRev: a
Card has MPU device
Kartenmodell ist '5.1'
Card HAS AC97 codec
Codec name: Unk AC97-codec [83847658]
3D Extension: SigmaTel 3D Enhancement
Codec is 2.0 compliant
Capabilities[6a90] : -headphone out-
DAC resolutions : -16-bit- -20-bit-
ADC resolutions : -16-bit- -20-bit-
Ext Capabilities [bc7]: -var rate PCM audio- -2x PCM audio out- -PCM center DAC- -PCM surround DAC- -PCM LFE DAC- -slot/DAC mappings-
Port: 8000 Irq: 0x7(7)
Playback buffer: 20a0
Record buffer: 4000
Number of AC3 buffers: 4
Tank memory: 256 kb
GSIF buffer: 256 samples
OS version: [2 5 1 Service Pack 2; 2 5 1 Service Pack 2; 156 148]
[/source]

**Eugene Gavrilov** · Jul 27, 2005, 05:02 AM

go to 'settings - driver compatibility' and check 'sb22x' option. go to kX DSP and re-initialize it

-- let me know if this worked

E.

Darth Valium · Jul 27, 2005, 06:19 AM

Unfortunately ive done a rollback to the 3538h(with Russ's Plugin), so i cant try it out as fast as i wish to.

Before i did this, ive played around with the speaker-settings, and noticed a strange behaviour:

with a 2.x setting the rear speaker worked - tried with the kx-text, with 4.x and higher -> no results.

TravelRec. · Jul 28, 2005, 04:06 AM

Hi!

Checked the new release with my Audigy2V (SB0400):

- Sound is working on each SPDIF output frequency (with 3538h only at 96000 Hz)
- Sound is coming out of analog outs while digital outputs are selected (like before)
- SPDIF in is fully functional (expanding I/O on cards rear bracket) (like before)
- SPDIF out sends a valid audio stream at all sample rates, but no sound at all (like before)
- no other bugs detected yet (further testing necessary)

Thank you Eugene for the hard work!

kuh · Jul 28, 2005, 08:25 AM

ProFX AC97 - skin bug

Piovrauz · Jul 28, 2005, 09:37 AM

I used the old 3537 and the 3538 betas: were a must on my audigy2!

But now with the 3538i release i can get only static noise, very high level! [img]images/smilies/sigh.gif[/img]
I reinstalled old 3538h and all sounds fine. Can anyone help me to find what is wrong?

kX see my sound card as SB0240 10k2 F440.

Thanks,

Piovrauz

P.S.: sorry I have wrote this in the "3538i is out" post for error, please forgive me.

ReWired · Jul 28, 2005, 10:31 AM

Quote:

* 'show window content while dragging' feature is 'experimental' and might cause certain issues

if I turn OFF this feature - can't use DSP window, NO right mouse button menu (there are right-click menus for effects, and can connect them using mouse dragging, right-clicking does not work on empty DSP areas)
turning the feature ON - right mouse menu in DSP appears again.

Maddogg6 · Jul 28, 2005, 11:40 AM

Thanks a ton guys... (Eugene and company)

But....
KX synth - MIDI Channel 10 will not make drum sounds in Sonar 4.02.

I tried changing bank select methods in both kx and sonar - bank/patch selecting works for all other channels, as I can choose and hear sounds loaded onto non 0 banks. But I cant hear anyhing on ch10. I can preview in vienna however. This has changed from 3538h. Songs save in sonar that worked with KX3538h - no longer can I hear drums on ch 10.

also is it possible to make it so when a patch is selected on ch 10 drums - (the GS valid patches are spread apart and non-sequential) to keep using last working patch until next pacth gets loaded. So you would always at least hear something on ch 10. 3538h I had to use patch 1 - and patch 0 - the default would not make a sound - I may have said this backwards.)

I have WinXPSP2 / SB0350 (Audigy 2zs Plat)

BiCho · Jul 28, 2005, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Piovrauz

I used the old 3537 and the 3538 betas: were a must on my audigy2!

But now with the 3538i release i can get only static noise, very high level! [img]images/smilies/sigh.gif[/img]
I reinstalled old 3538h and all sounds fine. Can anyone help me to find what is wrong?

kX see my sound card as SB0240 10k2 F440.

Thanks,

Piovrauz

P.S.: sorry I have wrote this in the "3538i is out" post for error, please forgive me.

I'm having exactly the same problem, not only with 0240 but also with a 0060 (I have a dual card setup). I guess there is definitely a problem with 3538i and these cards.

Russ · Jul 28, 2005, 03:50 PM

Same issue as with Maddogg6.
No midi drums on channel 10 in Guitar Pro (with kX Synth's).

Samir · Jul 28, 2005, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kuh

ProFX AC97 - skin bug

Confirmed...

**dj_stick** · Jul 28, 2005, 08:35 PM

The profx plugins in the 3538i distribution were older builds compiled for this release for some reason

wait until the newer seperate package is released

here is an email i received from lemury on the topic during our testing

Quote:

Current ProFX v2.x, Asynth and Drummachine are not (yet) compiled for/with
3538i.
Hence the incompatibility.
The AC97 plugin included in this 3538i release is just a very old version
which Eugene included in the lib.
It will be replaced with a new version of course.

so this issue is known and should be corrected in the near future

Maddogg6 · Jul 28, 2005, 09:53 PM

Also - smaller problem.

'FX' panel sliders are missing. Looks like a skin change.

lucioblues · Jul 28, 2005, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ

Same issue as with Maddogg6.
No midi drums on channel 10...

Me too. It's dead!

thomasabarnes · Jul 28, 2005, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maddogg6

Also - smaller problem.

'FX' panel sliders are missing. Looks like a skin change.

Do you mean the sliders on the FX page of the kX Mixer? I have them.

lucioblues · Jul 28, 2005, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thomasabarnes

Do you mean the sliders on the FX page of the kX Mixer? I have them.

Me too (oops, I think I told this before). It disapears for custom DSP only. Maddogg6, how is your "Dsp kx"? Some effect disabled?

Russ · Jul 28, 2005, 10:31 PM

@Maddogg6,

Do you have the FXMix2 plugin loaded?
Those sliders are loaded along with the FXMix2 plugin.

-Russ

Samir · Jul 29, 2005, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Piovrauz

I used the old 3537 and the 3538 betas: were a must on my audigy2!

But now with the 3538i release i can get only static noise, very high level! [img]images/smilies/sigh.gif[/img]
I reinstalled old 3538h and all sounds fine. Can anyone help me to find what is wrong?

kX see my sound card as SB0240 10k2 F440.

Thanks,

Piovrauz

P.S.: sorry I have wrote this in the "3538i is out" post for error, please forgive me.

Only to confirm this! Seems that 3538i does somthing BAD to SB0240 (plain Audigy 2) I could not get any sound at all, doing no matter what in DSP...
Is something wrong with epilog? Had to revert to 3538h... Only to mention that i'm not newbie in this...

Maddogg6 · Jul 29, 2005, 12:11 PM

They are missing after 're-initialize DSP' - which, removed my custom DSP setup and put it to 'default' - I assume thats what the re-int dsp does. Anyway, yes FXMix2 is loaded. But I may have messed that up by editing it once without making new/creat new guid. Thats probably whats wrong.

Ill re-install. Can I do an un-install - anf JUST install 3538i (a full install) - or is that an update to 3835h (and need to start from 3538c - it think it was)?

thomasabarnes · Jul 29, 2005, 12:11 PM

When playing back a MIDI file using 3538i, there are no drums sounding when using a GM soundfont. All other instruments seem to work, but not the drums. I used a GM softsynth called TTS-1, and it plays all tracks.

Can others see if they can reproduce this situation?

1) load a GM soundfont
2) Set MIDI playback device for appropriate kX Synth in control panel
3) open a MIDI file in WMP or a sequencer and play it.

I did this an expected to hear all tracks play, but the drum track does not sound.

I'm using an Audigy (SB0092)

This is also reported here: http://driverheaven.net/showthread.p...181#post651181

Russ · Jul 29, 2005, 12:24 PM

@Maddogg6, 3538i is a full install, so that is all you need.

BTW: You might try the following first:

Code:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\kX\Plugins]
"fa7c5e74-1b53-4ac3-b54f-93559e0018bf"="C:\\WINDOWS\\system32\\kxfxlib.kxl"
"fa7c5e74-1b53-4ac3-b54f-93559e0018bf.name"="FXMix2"

Copy and paste the above into a blank text document, save it as a .reg file, and then double click the file to add the info to the registry. Then reintialize the DSP, and see if the sliders are back.

-Russ

BTW: The above assumes that "C:\Windows" is your Windows directory.

Maddogg6 · Jul 29, 2005, 12:35 PM

Thanks Russ, I did get them to show - I think I messed up editing the original FXMix2 module with out making a new one and copy (minus the guid).

Do those registry settings get wiped at un-install / and fixed with a re-install (in past versions?)

Thnaks again.

Russ · Jul 29, 2005, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thomasabarnes

I used a GM softsynth called TTS-1, and it plays all tracks.

Yeah, the "Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth" works as well. It is just the kX Synth's that have the drum problem.

Russ · Jul 29, 2005, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maddogg6

Thanks Russ, I did get them to show - I think I messed up editing the original FXMix2 module with out making a new one and copy (minus the guid).

Do those registry settings get wiped at un-install / and fixed with a re-install (in past versions?)

Thnaks again.

Not sure, as I have yet to try an uninstall, but as you noticed yourself (as did I with one of my custom plugins), that they do not get fixed with a re-install/uprade if they have been changed. I would guess that a full uninstall would wipe out the registry keys, but I cannot be sure (I wiped it out myself before installing 3538i, since the old plugins (.kxl's anyway) are not compatible with 3538i. BTW: I would not necessarily recommend that anyone else do this, as .da plugins are compatible, and you will lose any saved presets.).

Maddogg6 · Jul 29, 2005, 01:15 PM

Ok - I just did a complete un-install - it asks what you want removed - I answered YES to remove all (drivers, reg keys)

Re-installed - not sure if this is normal, but I HAD to re-boot to have the 3538i install recognize my sound card.

But after a re-boot - I canceled the windows 'found new hardware' wizard, and ran the kx install - without a hitch.

All is good the original FXMix2 is restored to it pervious, unaletered version -

Now its just the midi drum/kx synth thing.

Russ · Jul 29, 2005, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maddogg6

Re-installed - not sure if this is normal, but I HAD to re-boot to have the 3538i install recognize my sound card.

You could probably avoid the reboot if you went into device manager and had it scan for hardware changes, but the reboot is not a bad thing, and is often necessary to remove/replace files that are in use, etc.

lucioblues · Jul 29, 2005, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thomasabarnes

When playing back a MIDI file using 3538i, there are no drums sounding when using a GM soundfont. All other instruments seem to work, but not the drums. I used a GM softsynth called TTS-1, and it plays all tracks.

Can others see if they can reproduce this situation?

1) load a GM soundfont
2) Set MIDI playback device for appropriate kX Synth in control panel
3) open a MIDI file in WMP or a sequencer and play it.

I did this an expected to hear all tracks play, but the drum track does not sound.

I'm using an Audigy (SB0092)

This is also reported here: http://driverheaven.net/showthread.p...181#post651181

Here too:
3538i bug reports
3538i bug reports
3538i bug reports

Jorgo · Jul 30, 2005, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samir

Only to confirm this! Seems that 3538i does somthing BAD to SB0240 (plain Audigy 2) I could not get any sound at all, doing no matter what in DSP...
Is something wrong with epilog? Had to revert to 3538h... Only to mention that i'm not newbie in this...

No sound problems or static on my side, everything's working fine.

Driver Name:kX Audio Driver (Debug)
Driver Date: Jul 14 2005 17:03:16
Driver Version: 5.10.00.3538 - debug
DB Name:none
SB0240 10k2 [d000]
PCI Information:
Device: 41102 Subsys: 10021102 ChipRev: 4
Card is '10k2'
Card has MPU device
Card model is '5.1'
Card is Audigy2-compatible
Card HAS AC97 codec
Codec name: SigmaTel STAC9721/23
3D Extension: SigmaTel 3D Enhancement
Codec is 2.0 compliant
Capabilities[6940] :
DAC resolutions : -16-bit- -18-bit-
ADC resolutions : -16-bit- -18-bit-
Ext Capabilities [200]: -slot/DAC mappings-
Port: d000 Irq: 0x5(5)
Playback buffer: 20a0
Record buffer: 4000
Number of AC3 buffers: 8
Tank memory: 512 kb
GSIF buffer: 32 samples
OS version: [2 5 1 Service Pack 2; 2 5 1 Service Pack 2; 156 148]
----------------------------------------------------

RejZoR · Jul 31, 2005, 02:52 AM

I don't think this is normal... Bug in Surounder...
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/3...ugibugi2yw.png

Jul 26, 2005, 06:42 PM	#1
Eugene Gavrilov kX Project Lead Programmer and Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,037 Rep Power: 56	3538i bug reports please post your 3538i-specific bug reports here. please review 'known issues' before reporting any bugs. thanks. E.

Jul 27, 2005, 04:34 AM	#2
Darth Valium DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	SB22x(229) Issue 1st: Big thanks to Eugene for the new release!!! Hail to the king. 2nd: Still no sound from the rear-channel(front(or rear, if you swap) & center/lfe is working) SC is reported as SB0229. Any ideas how to fix it or back to 3538h and Russ's plug-in? [source] ----Hardware / Software configuration--------------- Treibername:kX Audio Driver (Debug) Treiberdatum: Jul 14 2005 17:03:16 Treiberversion: 5.10.00.3538 - debug DB Name:none SB022xb 10k1 [8000] PCI Information: Device: 21102 Subsys: 100a1102 ChipRev: a Card has MPU device Kartenmodell ist '5.1' Card HAS AC97 codec Codec name: Unk AC97-codec [83847658] 3D Extension: SigmaTel 3D Enhancement Codec is 2.0 compliant Capabilities[6a90] : -headphone out- DAC resolutions : -16-bit- -20-bit- ADC resolutions : -16-bit- -20-bit- Ext Capabilities [bc7]: -var rate PCM audio- -2x PCM audio out- -PCM center DAC- -PCM surround DAC- -PCM LFE DAC- -slot/DAC mappings- Port: 8000 Irq: 0x7(7) Playback buffer: 20a0 Record buffer: 4000 Number of AC3 buffers: 4 Tank memory: 256 kb GSIF buffer: 256 samples OS version: [2 5 1 Service Pack 2; 2 5 1 Service Pack 2; 156 148] [/source]

Jul 28, 2005, 04:06 AM	#5
TravelRec. Alternative Audioproductions Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Germany / Sachsen-Anhalt Posts: 1,704 Rep Power: 42	Short Report about Audigy2Value status Hi! Checked the new release with my Audigy2V (SB0400): - Sound is working on each SPDIF output frequency (with 3538h only at 96000 Hz) - Sound is coming out of analog outs while digital outputs are selected (like before) - SPDIF in is fully functional (expanding I/O on cards rear bracket) (like before) - SPDIF out sends a valid audio stream at all sample rates, but no sound at all (like before) - no other bugs detected yet (further testing necessary) Thank you Eugene for the hard work! __________________ Always take a look behind.

Jul 28, 2005, 09:37 AM	#7
Piovrauz DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	No sound, only noise I used the old 3537 and the 3538 betas: were a must on my audigy2! But now with the 3538i release i can get only static noise, very high level! [img]images/smilies/sigh.gif[/img] I reinstalled old 3538h and all sounds fine. Can anyone help me to find what is wrong? kX see my sound card as SB0240 10k2 F440. Thanks, Piovrauz P.S.: sorry I have wrote this in the "3538i is out" post for error, please forgive me.

Jul 28, 2005, 10:31 PM	#18
Russ DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,836 Rep Power: 41	@Maddogg6, Do you have the FXMix2 plugin loaded? Those sliders are loaded along with the FXMix2 plugin. -Russ Last edited by Russ; Jul 28, 2005 at 10:35 PM. Reason: typo

Jul 27, 2005, 05:02 AM	#3
Eugene Gavrilov kX Project Lead Programmer and Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,037 Rep Power: 56	go to 'settings - driver compatibility' and check 'sb22x' option. go to kX DSP and re-initialize it -- let me know if this worked E.

Jul 27, 2005, 06:19 AM	#4
Darth Valium DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	Unfortunately ive done a rollback to the 3538h(with Russ's Plugin), so i cant try it out as fast as i wish to. Before i did this, ive played around with the speaker-settings, and noticed a strange behaviour: with a 2.x setting the rear speaker worked - tried with the kx-text, with 4.x and higher -> no results.

Jul 28, 2005, 08:25 AM	#6
kuh DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Ukraine Posts: 28 Rep Power: 0	ProFX AC97 - skin bug

Jul 28, 2005, 11:40 AM	#9
Maddogg6 Tail Razer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bernyurass, AZ - USA Posts: 4,027 Rep Power: 36	Thanks a ton guys... (Eugene and company) But.... KX synth - MIDI Channel 10 will not make drum sounds in Sonar 4.02. I tried changing bank select methods in both kx and sonar - bank/patch selecting works for all other channels, as I can choose and hear sounds loaded onto non 0 banks. But I cant hear anyhing on ch10. I can preview in vienna however. This has changed from 3538h. Songs save in sonar that worked with KX3538h - no longer can I hear drums on ch 10. also is it possible to make it so when a patch is selected on ch 10 drums - (the GS valid patches are spread apart and non-sequential) to keep using last working patch until next pacth gets loaded. So you would always at least hear something on ch 10. 3538h I had to use patch 1 - and patch 0 - the default would not make a sound - I may have said this backwards.) I have WinXPSP2 / SB0350 (Audigy 2zs Plat)

Jul 28, 2005, 03:50 PM	#11
Russ DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,836 Rep Power: 41	Same issue as with Maddogg6. No midi drums on channel 10 in Guitar Pro (with kX Synth's).

Jul 28, 2005, 09:53 PM	#14
Maddogg6 Tail Razer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bernyurass, AZ - USA Posts: 4,027 Rep Power: 36	Also - smaller problem. 'FX' panel sliders are missing. Looks like a skin change.

Jul 29, 2005, 12:11 PM	#20
Maddogg6 Tail Razer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bernyurass, AZ - USA Posts: 4,027 Rep Power: 36	They are missing after 're-initialize DSP' - which, removed my custom DSP setup and put it to 'default' - I assume thats what the re-int dsp does. Anyway, yes FXMix2 is loaded. But I may have messed that up by editing it once without making new/creat new guid. Thats probably whats wrong. Ill re-install. Can I do an un-install - anf JUST install 3538i (a full install) - or is that an update to 3835h (and need to start from 3538c - it think it was)?

Jul 29, 2005, 12:11 PM	#21
thomasabarnes DriverHeaven Maniac Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: USA Posts: 1,315 Rep Power: 44 System Specs	When playing back a MIDI file using 3538i, there are no drums sounding when using a GM soundfont. All other instruments seem to work, but not the drums. I used a GM softsynth called TTS-1, and it plays all tracks. Can others see if they can reproduce this situation? 1) load a GM soundfont 2) Set MIDI playback device for appropriate kX Synth in control panel 3) open a MIDI file in WMP or a sequencer and play it. I did this an expected to hear all tracks play, but the drum track does not sound. I'm using an Audigy (SB0092) This is also reported here: http://driverheaven.net/showthread.p...181#post651181 __________________ May a song always touch you in a positive way. Sonar 8 Producer Edition, Vista Ultimate 64Bit, MOTU UltraLite MK3, 250 GB HDD 7200 rpm, 80 GB HDD 7200 rpm, Lite-On DVDRW LH 18A1P My Music Production: Top 40, Contemporary Christian, Pop/Rock, Decent Rap, Inspirationals, and Children Songs Last edited by thomasabarnes; Jul 29, 2005 at 12:28 PM.

Jul 29, 2005, 12:24 PM	#22
Russ DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,836 Rep Power: 41	@Maddogg6, 3538i is a full install, so that is all you need. BTW: You might try the following first: Code: Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\kX\Plugins] "fa7c5e74-1b53-4ac3-b54f-93559e0018bf"="C:\\WINDOWS\\system32\\kxfxlib.kxl" "fa7c5e74-1b53-4ac3-b54f-93559e0018bf.name"="FXMix2" Copy and paste the above into a blank text document, save it as a .reg file, and then double click the file to add the info to the registry. Then reintialize the DSP, and see if the sliders are back. -Russ BTW: The above assumes that "C:\Windows" is your Windows directory. Last edited by Russ; Jul 29, 2005 at 12:29 PM.

Jul 29, 2005, 12:35 PM	#23
Maddogg6 Tail Razer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bernyurass, AZ - USA Posts: 4,027 Rep Power: 36	Thanks Russ, I did get them to show - I think I messed up editing the original FXMix2 module with out making a new one and copy (minus the guid). Do those registry settings get wiped at un-install / and fixed with a re-install (in past versions?) Thnaks again.

Jul 29, 2005, 01:15 PM	#26
Maddogg6 Tail Razer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bernyurass, AZ - USA Posts: 4,027 Rep Power: 36	Ok - I just did a complete un-install - it asks what you want removed - I answered YES to remove all (drivers, reg keys) Re-installed - not sure if this is normal, but I HAD to re-boot to have the 3538i install recognize my sound card. But after a re-boot - I canceled the windows 'found new hardware' wizard, and ran the kx install - without a hitch. All is good the original FXMix2 is restored to it pervious, unaletered version - Now its just the midi drum/kx synth thing.

Jul 31, 2005, 02:52 AM	#30
RejZoR DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Europe/Slovenia/Ljubljana Posts: 157 Rep Power: 0	I don't think this is normal... Bug in Surounder... http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/3...ugibugi2yw.png

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