Mic & "Sound Recorder" program are not working

KYLE K_SKI

Hello!

First, a HUGE thank you to all of those who've contributed to kX. I installed it today, and the NEW life it brought into my SB Audigy 2 card is UNBELIEVABLE. My sounds went from being mushy to blow-your-mind incredible. I LOVE it. THANK YOU.

Now the problem with the mic not working is NOT new, and existed to a certain degree before I installed kX. My inability to use the Sound Recorder is brand new, and happened just an hour ago.

So first, the mic situation: I own a Dell Dimension XPS desktop, with a SB Audigy 2 soundcard. My mic is a medium end brandless mono recording device. I struggled for a LONG time to get the mic to work, with my plugging it in into any hole imagineable. NONE of them worked. And then, one day, I KID YOU NOT, I matched its plug with the light violet/soft rose colored hole, and it started recording. Now, I've plugged said mic into that hole a million times before with no results, so I don't know what made it start working. I could record whatever I wanted through the mic with no problems.

And then I purchased the Collector's Edition of Unreal Tournament 2004, the one that came with the Logitech head/mic set so I could give orders to my bots. The front of my Dell has a small panel where I can plug the headset's speaker plug into, and then I purchased an extender so that headset's mic cable could reach to the back of my computer. I was being EXTRA cautiou about plugging Logitech's mic cable in, because of my lousy experience with the nameless mic before. I unplugged the nameless brand, and immediately plugged in Logitech's cable. I started playing UT 2004, and the bots would never respond to my spoken commands. I opened up Sound Recorder and discovered that anything I recorded through the Logitech mic was FULL of static and hisses and pops.

Disgusted, I removed the Logitech cables, and plugged back in my brandless mic.

After reading all about kX, I took out Creative's piece of crap driver, and put kX's in. GORGEOUS sound!!

Except now my mics won't work (I've tried both the nameless brand and the Logitech headset's mic) AND the Sound Recorder program doesn't work as well. It will record "silence" but I no longer can PLAY it back to hear if it actually recorded anything, as the PLAY button is now GHOSTED OUT, which is something that has never happened before. The ghosting out of the Play button occured after I made some now forgotten adjustments via kX Mixer.

How can I adjust kX mixer so that my mic works? I'd prefer to get instructions so that my Logitech headset mic functions, as that would be far more useful to me than restoring my brandless mic. Please be SPECIFIC in regards to what I need to change, and give step-be-step details. I know virtually nothing about adjusting sound based equipment, so pretend you're giving instructions to a seven year old son when you deliver the instructions to me.

ANY HELP WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED!!!

Thank you for your time and efforts on this matter!

Yours,

Kyle
June 4, 2004

dj_stick

please try the mic page here
http://kb.kxproject.com/guide

KYLE K_SKI

Thanks for the article. I walked through its instructions step by step and discovered something. I don't have access to a window that looks even remotely like the "ASIO" window depicted in the article's first screenshot.

I follow the pathway instructions exactly: "Control Panel to "Soundcard Settings" to the "Audio" setup window. There is not "ASIO" option to select from, even after I open up the "Advanced" tab that's available at the "Audio" window.

I ended up uninstalling kX, and upon rebooting the computer, I tried the Sound Recorder program. It worked (FINALLY!) but it was full of static. I then reinstalled SB Audigy 2, and the Sound Recorder program kept working, and even BETTER, it was FINALLY free of any hisses or pops. So far so good.

I started up a video game, and the awful atrocity of SB Audigy 2's muffled sounds were back. So...

I uninstalled SB A2, and upon reboot (with NO sound card driver installed) the Sound Recorder program was again NOT working.

I reinstalled kX, rebooted, and the awesome sound is back, and after some tinkering around with kX Mixer (specifically setting the lower right most SPDIF menu bar off of the "Coaxial" option), the Sound Recorder will now once again "record" enough so that the Play button is no longer ghosted out, BUT it "plays" nothing back. Not even a single hiss or pop. I'm assuming that the Logitech headset mic has yet to be enabled. I just need to know how to do it.

I've noticed that most/all of my "Recording" options have a dot that is filled in red. I'm assuming that this means that at this time, this function won't work for me.

I badly want to utilize kX's amazing sound qualities, but I have to have the mic operational. Any advice?

Again, thanks for your time!

Yours,
Kyle
June 4, 2004

dj_stick

try the microphone setup page, asio is a different issue

KYLE K_SKI

I think I've done that already.

I've gotten there by Control Panel/Sound, Speech and Audio Devices/Sounds and Audio Devices/Voice, at which point I at the lower half of the window entitled Voice Recording. "kX WAVE..." is listed in a selectable window, Volume and Test Hardware are listed as two selectable options, and Volume won't open, and Test Hardware does a scan of the mic and speakers. If the mic works, then it tests the speakers as you talk (the time delay test).

There is a third, ghosted out option labeled "Advanced," but again, I don't have access to it.

If you meant that I could check out the setup for the mic via kX Mixer, I have yet to find a window that explicitly states that it's intended for mic adjustment. The closest thing to it that I can find in kX Mixer is the "Recording" option, but it, and all of the contents of its page, have a bold red dot posted by each item.

Is there a text file I could edit? What would its pathway be, what's it called, and what would I need to change in regards to its text contents?

Yours,

Kyle
June 5, 2004

dj_stick

in the kX dsp (this is more advanced, but still the simplest way)
find the prolog, connect the top 2 (ac97)connectors to the MME record outputs on the Epilog

KYLE K_SKI

Hmmm...

For some reason, messing around with all those lines instills in me the insight one must have in order to be a bomb defuser.

I'm not sure what you meant by "...MME record...," especially since I slowly moved my cursor to "read" what each of those little boxes meant. None of the one's in Epilog's box is listed as an "MME," so I'm assuming that the MME are the BOXES themselves, yes? Based on that assumption, here's what I did:

I connected Prolog's AC97 left to Epilog's ASIO 14 (this box wasn't connected to anything else)
I then connected Prolog's AC97 right to Epilog's ASIO 15 (this box wasn't connected to anything else)

After doing the above, I tried the mic via Sound Recorder. The program worked, but it didn't record any sounds.

I hope I correctly did what you recommended.

Let me know.

And thanks again for everything thus far.

Yours,

Kyle
June 5, 2004

dj_stick

ASIO won't work in SNDREC32
connect it to the RecL and RecR outputs

KYLE K_SKI

I made the latest changes, Prolog's AC97 Left [8000] to Epilog's [400e] RecL, and AC97 Right [8001] to Epilog's [400f] RecR.

The Sound Recorder is able to "record" and "play," but no data has been recorded via the mic.

I don't know if this is related, but as soon as I attached AC97 Left to RecL, the string that connected some of the boxes between Surrounder and Epilog disappeared. As soon as I reattached Surrounder to Epilog, the newly made strings between Prolog and Epilog disappeared. This happened no matter what sequence of connecting I used, so I'm assuming this is supposed to happen. Could you confirm for me if it is?

I hope the third time's the charm.

Yours!

Kyle
June 5, 2004

dj_stick

the disconnecting of wires will happen, but there is no need for the ones from the xrouter to the recr/l
keep the wires connected from prolog to epilog
and in the ac-97 page of the mixer, unmute and increase the gain of the microphone slider, and select in the menu "mic"

KYLE K_SKI

I'm happy to hear that my observations RE the disappearing lines when I laid the new ones were acceptable. I was sweating buckets there for a little while.

I went through and made the A97 page adjustments per your requests, and the mic has yet to work.

I'd like to note that I'm grateful for the patient step-by-steps you're giving me. Thank you for your most courteous help!

It looks like I just need a little more!

Yours,

Kyle
June 5, 2004

dj_stick

hmm… have you tried both the logitech mic and the generic mic on another computer?

KYLE K_SKI

I know that these mics work. Just before my latest install of the kX driver, I had reinstalled SB Audigy 2, and the Logitech mic worked fine then, and without any distortions. The only problem was how awful SB A2's sounds were. I'd much rather use kX's system.

Kyle
June 6, 2004

dj_stick

open the peak meter from the DSP and try to use the microphone, see if it breaks 0.0