Skeba

Here's my configuration... And as I've stated before, the problem with my system, is that my surround speakers don't work. If I do the whole epilog thing, it automatically connects the subwoofer and center also to Epilog, and I haven't been able to separate them. When connected to the Epilog, the surround works, but the center and subwoofer disappears...

----Hardware / Software configuration---------------
Driver Name:kX Audio Driver (Debug)
Driver Date: Dec 21 2004 05:59:43
Driver Version: 5.10.00.3538 - debug
DB Name:none
SB022x 10k1 [e000]
PCI Information:
Device: 21102 Subsys: 100a1102 ChipRev: a
Card has MPU device
Card model is '5.1'
Card HAS AC97 codec
Codec name: Unk AC97-codec [83847658]
3D Extension: SigmaTel 3D Enhancement
Codec is 2.0 compliant
Capabilities[6a90] : -headphone out-
DAC resolutions : -16-bit- -20-bit-
ADC resolutions : -16-bit- -20-bit-
Ext Capabilities [bc7]: -var rate PCM audio- -2x PCM audio out- -PCM center DAC- -PCM surround DAC- -PCM LFE DAC- -slot/DAC mappings-
Port: e000 Irq: 0x16(22)
Playback buffer: 20a0
Record buffer: 4000
Number of AC3 buffers: 4
Tank memory: 256 kb
GSIF buffer: 256 samples
OS version: [2 5 1 Service Pack 2; 2 5 1 Service Pack 2; 156 148]
----------------------------------------------------

Russ

Hold down the ALT key when you make the connections and it won't do that.

Skeba

Thank you so much!! I don't know how I've missed this! I'm sure it's been mentioned before.

It's working now just the way it should be.. Thank you once more.

kellson

Hello, here is my card info. I only need to add epiloglt_k1 and connect the sL and sR to the out_13 and out_14, the rear output will work, dont need to change in kxctrl . But cannt change the vol in the mixer. and there is another problem, i cant update the microcodes in epilog, it shows "(47): error S100: unknown character '('" But no problem to update the codes epiloglt_k1...

----Hardware / Software configuration---------------
Driver Name:kX Audio Driver (Debug)
Driver Date: Dec 10 2004 08:59:00
Driver Version: 5.10.00.3538 - debug
DB Name:none
SB022x 10k1 [c000]
PCI Information:
Device: 21102 Subsys: 80661102 ChipRev: a
Card has MPU device
Card model is '5.1'
Card HAS AC97 codec
Codec name: Unk AC97-codec [83847658]
3D Extension: SigmaTel 3D Enhancement
Codec is 2.0 compliant
Capabilities[6a90] : -headphone out-
DAC resolutions : -16-bit- -20-bit-
ADC resolutions : -16-bit- -20-bit-
Ext Capabilities [bc7]: -var rate PCM audio- -2x PCM audio out- -PCM center DAC- -PCM surround DAC- -PCM LFE DAC- -slot/DAC mappings-
Port: c000 Irq: 0xa(10)
Playback buffer: 20a0
Record buffer: 4000
Number of AC3 buffers: 4
Tank memory: 256 kb
GSIF buffer: 256 samples
OS version: [2 5 1 Service Pack 2; 2 5 1 Service Pack 2; 156 148]
----------------------------------------------------

Fwnk

Ok, solved, but i dont seem to be able to get 5.1

Driver naam:kX Audio Driver (Debug)
Driver datum: Feb 17 2004 00:43:22
Driver versie: 5.10.00.3537 - debug
DB naam:none
kX Generic [c000]
PCI Information:
Device: 21102 Subsys: 100a1102 ChipRev: a
Card has MPU device
Card HAS AC97 codec
Codec name: Unknown AC97 codec [83847658
3D Extension: SigmaTel 3D Enhancement
Codec is 2.0 compliant
Capabilities[6a90] : -headphone out-
DAC resolutions : -16-bit- -20-bit-
ADC resolutions : -16-bit- -20-bit-
Ext Capabilities [bc7]: -var rate PCM audio- -2x PCM audio out- -PCM center DAC- -PCM surround DAC- -PCM LFE DAC- -slot/DAC mappings-
Port: c000 Irq: 0xa(10)
Playback buffer: 20a0
Record buffer: 4000
Number of AC3 buffers: 4
Tank memory: 256 kb
GSIF buffer: 256 samples
OS version: [2 5 1 Service Pack 2; 2 5 1 Service Pack 2; 156 148]

woodcarver_52

did you try going into the control panel and go into the sound system program and see it the software is setup for sterio of is it set for 5.1 speakers..

niklz

hiya i have a problem with one of these cards, ive tried reading thru all the thread but theres alot there and my problem seems to be slightly different.

heres hardware

----Hardware / Software configuration---------------
Driver Name:kX Audio Driver (Debug)
Driver Date: Aug 24 2007 17:27:15
Driver Version: 5.10.00.3539 - debug
DB Name:none
SB022xa 10k1 [a000]
PCI Information:
Device: 21102 Subsys: 80661102 ChipRev: a
Card has MPU device
Card model is '5.1'
Card requires SB22x hack
Card HAS AC97 codec


and i have no output from center or sub while on the test screen, im also using Creative DT3500 speaker set up

any ideas? please explain as much as u can cuz im not experienced with kxctrl.exe :P

thx in advance

niklz

Russ

Creative DT3500:
That is a digital speaker system, right?

SPDIF is stereo only unless AC3/DD is used (which cannot be used (AC3 Passthru) with kX and your card model (any 10k1 card model)).

If you are using the four pole mini-jack to DIN adapter, then make sure that "Digital Output Only" mode is enabled, and that Surrounder (kX Speaker Setup applet) is configured for 5.1.

niklz

yeah i have those enabled, i can get all the speakers to work on the music mode on my box but thats not surround thats just putting sound thru all the speaks from 2chan audio. so all the speakers work just i cant get surround working

are you saying it wont work with my DTT3500 box?
thx for reply

Russ

Do you have the four pole mini-jack to DIN adapter?

niklz

yes, im using the four pole adapter to take from my cards digital output into the digital input on my box, that is set to; input digital din, output fourpoint digital din 5.1

i have audio devices set to 5.1 speaks. Kx speaker setup as 5.1 surround on and sub on.

anything else?

niklz

Russ

That sounds right, so I am not sure why it is not working.

Are you using the default DSP config?

Do you have regular (analog) speakers that you can use to test with, to be sure that you are getting surround from the analog outputs?

Make sure that you are testing with audio that has more than 2 channels.

You might try resetting AC97 (AC97 page of kxmixer), and then redo the settings.

I do not have a digital speaker system to test with, so I am limited on how much I was able to test the digital outputs, but they all seemed to work last time I checked (I have not tested with 3539, but I assume nothing changed with that in that in 3539).

niklz

i havnt changed the dsp... and i dont know how to reset the AC97.. if u could explain.

im using a dvd with 5.1. but its the test that doesnt work.. which obv should.

if i put the box onto music sound comes out of all the speaks so all the ports work fine.

niklz

Russ

On the AC97 page of kxmixer is a button that says "Reset AC97".

As for the kX speaker test, I am not sure if it works with the digital outputs or not (I never tested it myself), so be sure to test with something else.

As for the DVD, make sure that it is set to output to SPDIF, and that you see the AC3 Decode popup from kX, otherwise it is most likely not outputting 5.1.

Try this:
Download the "6 Channel ID .wav" file from here. Play the wav in Windows Media Player, and make sure that the default Windows/Directsound device is kX Wave 0/1. See if you hear all 6 speakers when playing that file.

BTW: What OS are you using?

niklz

using XP, tried the AC97 reset, nothing. used the wav file and got the same results no center and no sub, thing is sub works while playing a dvd just no center.

couldnt find a setting in the dvd for spdif using media player classic to do it, can try another program like vlc if u think it will make a difference.. havnt seen that AC3 decode popup either.

niklz

niklz

using vlc the spidf option gives me a strange output, the volume is very low and the sound is just jutting thru the usual 4 speakers...

strange

im off too hit the sack, ill check this in the morning before i go to work.

thanks for the help so far

have a nice night
niklz

Russ

I cannot think of much else right now...

You might want to check the cables for bent or missing pins.

Beyond the above, you might consider installing the Creative driver (if for nothing else, just to see if it works correctly with that driver (if you do, be sure to let us know if it works)).

If I think of anything else...

niklz

i know all the pins work because on a different setting all the speakers work its just not surround, and the whole reason im using kx to begin with is because i cant find the right creative drivers for this card :P

is there really nothing else you can think off?

Russ

What (specifically) do you mean by all the speakers work under different settings?

i.e.
Even if all the speakers work (i.e. when up-mixing via the speaker system itself), this does not necessarily rule out problems with the connections between the sound card and the speaker system.

Russ

BTW: Regarding the Creative driver, have you looked here:
BadBoyforum Profile, BadBoyforum Details - FileFront.com

I think you want the one for SB Live! 5.1 (SB0228).

niklz

well if i put the box onto music it will take a 2 chan audio and put it thru all the speakers.

and are u sure the 0228 is the ones i want, i think im 0220.. and should i uninstall anything else first?

niklz

lots of progress! managed to get it too work with MI3 using the sb original drivers thru vlc, needed to put it onto spdif and use the double decoder setting on my box and now it works like a charm!

so.. is there much point in me trying the same settings with kx??

niklz

niklz

last post is a little inaccurate it all works fine now, and i have all the speakers set up properly and its great, running on the default sb live drivers.

is it worth getting the kx drivers.. and trying to get them to work, what benefits are there?

Russ

It all depends on how you intend to use the driver.

kX is way more configurable then the Creative drivers, and offers ASIO support that is missing with the CL driver for these cards.

kX does not support EAX, and cannot do AC3 passthru with these cards.

If your speaker system is doing the decoding, then you still have not verified that all of the channels are working from the sound card.

i.e.
When your speaker system does the decoding, the sound card sends only 2 channels of audio (AC3 passthru), and the speaker system decodes it to 6 channels. This is not the same thing as sending six channels of audio to the speaker system directly. You still need to test that functionality.

i.e.
Try the 6 Channel ID wave file...

niklz

yeah i know that, the wav file works fine, and so does the tests on creative surround mixer. and half life episode one sounds great, it all works will most likely leave it and burn off that iso for future

cheers for the help

niklz

Russ

Sounds good...
I am glad that it is working correctly for you (and the ISO)