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May 1, 2008, 10:48 AM
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Mars
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Originally Posted by Necrosis
Sorry man but there is just no way. Unless these systems are being setup by someone who doesn't know how or you've have heard a decent setup. I'd throw any one of my three setups against those including my well aged Klipsch Pro Media's. Heck, some of the high end Creative line that is no longer being made would also wipe the floor w/ them.
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Yeah, the Z-5500 are a good set of surround sound speakers for gamers running from $250-$300, which is what they're marketed as, nothing more. Even the Logitech Z-10 speakers sound better musically at lowish volume, asides from lower tones.
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May 1, 2008, 01:40 PM
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DH's Dormant Dragon
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I've come across some poor Z-5500's....
had to send them back..
so i'm going to have to say that you've likely ended up with one of the poorer ones.
The Z-5500 are marketed towards that of computers.. and sold with the idea that they are "only" computer style speakers which is very much untrue..
they produce a level of quality that surpass that of majority of componenet and packaged 5.1 units available.
I AM NOT SAYING they are the best, i said the majority, AKA the ones that are being sold most. Easy to setup units by non pros. ETC.
I'm saying that the z-5500 typically wipe the floor of the units that are being sold by sony/pioneer/etc for 700-1500 bucks that can't touch the z-5500's lvl.
I've a set of the logitech Z-10's.... that's debateable.
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May 3, 2008, 02:41 PM
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DriverHeaven Senior Member
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o_o whao thanks a lot for the very extensive replies, this really helps me out.
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is this surround or stereo? how efficent are your speakers how much power do they get? if surround, how many speakers are truly full range(can produce viable bass down to 30hz)?
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Stereo, (although they're Klipsch SS.5's made to be used as surround channels, but they sound great as stereo satellites to me) They're in a 140w amp so I'm guessing around 50w each
Thanks again, I'll check over all this info again and look around.
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May 3, 2008, 07:33 PM
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DH's Latest Mac Convert
Join Date: Jun 2003
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Originally Posted by Lowfat
That is entirely incorrect. With cheaper drivers maybe, but with quality speakers even an 18" subwoofer can create 'tight' bass. Enclosure size, subwoofer placement, crossover, and room size also play a huge part in how the subwoofer will sound.
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that really depend on what you class as "tight"
the larger sub cones, due to their size/mass, simply cannot respond as quick enough for some genres of music, sure they're fine for home theatres, and creating rumble and 'low frequency effects", but at least to my ears for music, they just don't cut it, and muddy up the low end too much
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May 6, 2008, 11:42 AM
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DH's Dormant Dragon
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I agree with DJ about the larger size cones,
it's basic physics, the larger the amount of air and the mass that needs to move, the slower it is at reacting, or the more exponetial power it needs to respond similarely as quick.
The smaller subs like i had mentioned 8-10" produce a very distinctive sound that is very very tight usually, the bigger ones are much better for the frequencies and sounds that best meet what they can produce. Using the 2 in conjuction produces some pretty incredible sound.
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Our enemy is a radical network of terrorist, and every government that supports them. ~George W. Bush An evil excists that threatens every man, woman, and child, of this great nation. We must take steps to ensure our domestic security and protect our homeland. ~George W. Bush & Adolf Hitler
Look in the mirror occasionally, unless you reflect on what has occured in the past, scale those historical moments and forgotten moments to todays current situations, you are bound, in every inconceiveable and unwanted way, to repeat that which you may have swore to never do, and never support. We must awaken, and we must do so now and in mass. ~*pm me for whom*
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May 6, 2008, 01:32 PM
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DriverHeaven Extreme Member
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judas, nobody that knows anything about music uses tru subs with different speaker sizes (ie one sub 12" one sub 8').
my bet is(im hoping this is the problem) is that you are confusing bass speakers with sub speakers. this is a very common mistake that is promoted by the speaker industry - 1/2 the so - called sub modules out there arent subs at all, but merely bass modules.
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