VXD -> WDM in Windows 98SE

***Omegadrive*** · Apr 29, 2003, 07:25 PM

Ok, this is what I need to know:
How to change from an Audigy1 card that was using VXD drivers to an integrated nforce2 audio card that ONLY has WDM drivers?

I have trying for two days straight with no luck. The drivers are supposed to be installed fine, the device manager shows no exclamation marks and all seems fine, but if I go to the Multimedia options in the Control Panel the card is not listed in the selection windows, and of course, I got NO sound. It even shows correctly Devices tab as working.

Please, I want a solution involving some kind of file deletion or addition (that may tell the PC to use VXD drivers), or some registry entry that must be changed in order to make WDM audio work.

I know so far that one of the ways is to erase windows and start from scratch, but I recently lost my HD and I don't want to pass through the re-install-everything process all over again.

Vampyromaniac · Apr 30, 2003, 03:54 AM

Sorry, I've no suggestions other than the reformat you mentioned . . .

. . . but, I have heard changing from VxD to WDM in Win98 can be a tricky/nasty business

Hopefully there's someone with an answer out there

sorry

..err I just remembered I have 2 sounds cards installed,
old one using VxD, the new one using WDM,
and they're running OK for the most part.
I know it's not the same case as your situation,
but if you can think of anything I can check out on my OS,
feel free to ask. (I run Win98se also

)

RIV@NVX · Apr 30, 2003, 06:02 PM

If possible, try installing NForce2 drivers manually (thru .inf file).
It might do the trick.

***Omegadrive*** · Apr 30, 2003, 07:21 PM

Well, I already have tried manually with no luck.
As I said, there is NO exclamation marks on the Device Manager, everything looks as if it was working, BUT I can't select the sound card in the Control Panel/Multimedia options.
I know it must be some registry setting not telling windows that the card is a valid sound card, and I know it MUST be the registry, because if I remove the registry files from the windows folder and install over the current windows installation using a clean registry, the WDM sound WORKS. (I know because this happened to me some time ago when experimenting with the Audigy)

Any registry gurus?

Vampyromaniac, Are you using BOTH cards at the SAME time on Windows 98SE?

RIV@NVX · Apr 30, 2003, 07:23 PM

I had similar problem with Win2k, but manual installation helped. Sorry, I can't help you further, even if I would like to.

Vampyromaniac · May 1, 2003, 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Omegadrive
Vampyromaniac, Are you using BOTH cards at the SAME time on Windows 98SE?

Yep

***Omegadrive*** · May 1, 2003, 03:24 AM

I solved it!!!

Erased the registry ONLY and I'm now in the SLOW process of installing everything again

Oh, well, so much for a simple solution that I think only M$ can answer...

Vampyromaniac · May 1, 2003, 03:33 AM

Nice, glad you got it worked out

Mind letting us other 98'ers know what key you had to delete?

RIV@NVX · May 1, 2003, 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Omegadrive
I solved it!!!

Erased the registry ONLY and I'm now in the SLOW process of installing everything again

Oh, well, so much for a simple solution that I think only M$ can answer...

I guess it's better than reinstalling whole OS

Just curious - why are you still on Win98?

***Omegadrive*** · May 2, 2003, 03:11 AM

Vampyromaniac, I deleted the WHOLE registry, I wish I knew what was the exact registry keys that cause the problem...

RIV@NVX, I still think 98 is better than XP in MANY ways, plus I change hardware rather frequently, WinXP is a pain in the a$$ when changing HW, specially MBs, with 98 I just enter in safe mode, delete the old HW and restart, new HW found

BTW, Does any of you know about the WDM drivers problem under Win98SE that speed ups MP3s or any hardware accelerated sound?
I have to lower the Sound acceleration to the minimum (without turning it off) in order to get correct sound, and this doesn't happen in the nforce sound WDM drivers alone, also, when I had the LIve! and Audigy running with WDM drivers on 98SE, the same poblem occurs

RIV@NVX · May 2, 2003, 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Omegadrive
BTW, Does any of you know about the WDM drivers problem under Win98SE that speed ups MP3s or any hardware accelerated sound?
I have to lower the Sound acceleration to the minimum (without turning it off) in order to get correct sound, and this doesn't happen in the nforce sound WDM drivers alone, also, when I had the LIve! and Audigy running with WDM drivers on 98SE, the same poblem occurs

AFAIK, Creative driver problem (I never tested it to confirm it, but it doesn't happen with kX). If it works, you should leave HW acceleration the way it is. If you lower it to to the minimum, EAX1/2 will not work.

Vampyromaniac · May 2, 2003, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Omegadrive
Vampyromaniac, I deleted the WHOLE registry, ...

Wow, didn't all your apps get screwy from this?

Quote:

BTW, Does any of you know about the WDM drivers problem under Win98SE that speed ups MP3s or any hardware accelerated sound?
I have to lower the Sound acceleration to the minimum (without turning it off) in order to get correct sound, and this doesn't happen in the nforce sound WDM drivers alone, also, when I had the LIve! and Audigy running with WDM drivers on 98SE, the same poblem occurs

Sorry, I've never experienced that . . .
My main playback card is my Philips, and it is using WDM, and no such problem so far

Apr 29, 2003, 07:25 PM	#1
*Omegadrive* Drivers? What Drivers??? Join Date: May 2002 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 1,612 Rep Power: 59	VXD -> WDM in Windows 98SE Ok, this is what I need to know: How to change from an Audigy1 card that was using VXD drivers to an integrated nforce2 audio card that ONLY has WDM drivers? I have trying for two days straight with no luck. The drivers are supposed to be installed fine, the device manager shows no exclamation marks and all seems fine, but if I go to the Multimedia options in the Control Panel the card is not listed in the selection windows, and of course, I got NO sound. It even shows correctly Devices tab as working. Please, I want a solution involving some kind of file deletion or addition (that may tell the PC to use VXD drivers), or some registry entry that must be changed in order to make WDM audio work. I know so far that one of the ways is to erase windows and start from scratch, but I recently lost my HD and I don't want to pass through the re-install-everything process all over again. __________________ DRIVERHEAVEN ADMINISTRATOR <<E-MAIL>> <<PC SPECS>> GOD BLESS YOU ALL!

Apr 30, 2003, 03:54 AM	#2
Vampyromaniac confutatis maledictis Join Date: May 2002 Location: somewhere dark Posts: 5,974 Rep Power: 60 System Specs	Sorry, I've no suggestions other than the reformat you mentioned . . . . . . but, I have heard changing from VxD to WDM in Win98 can be a tricky/nasty business Hopefully there's someone with an answer out there sorry ..err I just remembered I have 2 sounds cards installed, old one using VxD, the new one using WDM, and they're running OK for the most part. I know it's not the same case as your situation, but if you can think of anything I can check out on my OS, feel free to ask. (I run Win98se also ) __________________ *Digitalis 3.3* Athlon 64 3000 // ASUS K8V SE Deluxe // 1024MB PC3200 (2-2-2-10 1T) ATI All-In-Wonder 9700 Pro // 20" Dell 2005FPW (DVI) M-Audio Revo 7.1 + Philips Acoustic Edge // Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 320/16 Western Digital WD3200KS + 120/8 Seagate 7200.7 NEC ND-3550A 16x DVD±RW + Lite-On 52x24x CD-RW Antec Sonata case // 480W Antec TruePower personal bests \|\| Aq'3: 46796 \| 3D'01: 20461 \| 3D'03: 6336 \| 3D'05: 2677 \| PC'04: 4605 \| PC'02: 7691,9092,1250

Apr 30, 2003, 06:02 PM	#3
RIV@NVX Freedom is a feature. Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Croatia, Rijeka Posts: 4,480 Rep Power: 53 System Specs	If possible, try installing NForce2 drivers manually (thru .inf file). It might do the trick. __________________ -- Vedran

Apr 30, 2003, 07:21 PM	#4
*Omegadrive* Drivers? What Drivers??? Join Date: May 2002 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 1,612 Rep Power: 59	Well, I already have tried manually with no luck. As I said, there is NO exclamation marks on the Device Manager, everything looks as if it was working, BUT I can't select the sound card in the Control Panel/Multimedia options. I know it must be some registry setting not telling windows that the card is a valid sound card, and I know it MUST be the registry, because if I remove the registry files from the windows folder and install over the current windows installation using a clean registry, the WDM sound WORKS. (I know because this happened to me some time ago when experimenting with the Audigy) Any registry gurus? Vampyromaniac, Are you using BOTH cards at the SAME time on Windows 98SE? __________________ DRIVERHEAVEN ADMINISTRATOR <<E-MAIL>> <<PC SPECS>> GOD BLESS YOU ALL!

Apr 30, 2003, 07:23 PM	#5
RIV@NVX Freedom is a feature. Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Croatia, Rijeka Posts: 4,480 Rep Power: 53 System Specs	I had similar problem with Win2k, but manual installation helped. Sorry, I can't help you further, even if I would like to. __________________ -- Vedran

May 1, 2003, 03:24 AM	#7
*Omegadrive* Drivers? What Drivers??? Join Date: May 2002 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 1,612 Rep Power: 59	I solved it!!! Erased the registry ONLY and I'm now in the SLOW process of installing everything again Oh, well, so much for a simple solution that I think only M$ can answer... __________________ DRIVERHEAVEN ADMINISTRATOR <<E-MAIL>> <<PC SPECS>> GOD BLESS YOU ALL!

May 1, 2003, 03:33 AM	#8
Vampyromaniac confutatis maledictis Join Date: May 2002 Location: somewhere dark Posts: 5,974 Rep Power: 60 System Specs	Nice, glad you got it worked out Mind letting us other 98'ers know what key you had to delete? __________________ *Digitalis 3.3* Athlon 64 3000 // ASUS K8V SE Deluxe // 1024MB PC3200 (2-2-2-10 1T) ATI All-In-Wonder 9700 Pro // 20" Dell 2005FPW (DVI) M-Audio Revo 7.1 + Philips Acoustic Edge // Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 320/16 Western Digital WD3200KS + 120/8 Seagate 7200.7 NEC ND-3550A 16x DVD±RW + Lite-On 52x24x CD-RW Antec Sonata case // 480W Antec TruePower personal bests \|\| Aq'3: 46796 \| 3D'01: 20461 \| 3D'03: 6336 \| 3D'05: 2677 \| PC'04: 4605 \| PC'02: 7691,9092,1250

May 2, 2003, 03:11 AM	#10
*Omegadrive* Drivers? What Drivers??? Join Date: May 2002 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 1,612 Rep Power: 59	Vampyromaniac, I deleted the WHOLE registry, I wish I knew what was the exact registry keys that cause the problem... RIV@NVX, I still think 98 is better than XP in MANY ways, plus I change hardware rather frequently, WinXP is a pain in the a$$ when changing HW, specially MBs, with 98 I just enter in safe mode, delete the old HW and restart, new HW found BTW, Does any of you know about the WDM drivers problem under Win98SE that speed ups MP3s or any hardware accelerated sound? I have to lower the Sound acceleration to the minimum (without turning it off) in order to get correct sound, and this doesn't happen in the nforce sound WDM drivers alone, also, when I had the LIve! and Audigy running with WDM drivers on 98SE, the same poblem occurs __________________ DRIVERHEAVEN ADMINISTRATOR <<E-MAIL>> <<PC SPECS>> GOD BLESS YOU ALL!