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Old Sep 30, 2005, 06:34 AM   #1
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Signifigant FPS gain?

I currently have an ATI Radeon 9600 XT AIW 128mb in my machine (specs below) and am thinking of upgrading to an ATI Radeon X800XL 256MB. I am having second thoughs though, because what I play mostly is CS:S and DOD:S and I have heard a few people still don't have a good framerate in these games with decent cards, but then a lot of them lie about what they have so I want to know if I would see a signifigant boost in my frames. Currently I get 35-50 in CS:S with everything but AA on and only get 20-25 in DOD:S with everything at medium settings (again, AA off).

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2x 300gb SATA150 Seagates on RAID0
1024mb (2x 512mb) corsair DDR400 RAM
AMD Athlon 3200+ Barton CPU
ATI Radeon 9600 XT AIW 128mb
on a Foxconn 600A01-6LRS mobo
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Old Sep 30, 2005, 01:11 PM   #2
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Of course...
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Old Sep 30, 2005, 01:55 PM   #3
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I'd Recommend The X800xl As Well, I Was Impressed With It's Abilities And Price When I Had Mine
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Old Sep 30, 2005, 02:28 PM   #4
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Yes, you would benefit of a nice boost in graphics quality and framerate.
Don't forget that the Source engine heavily relies on the CPU.
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Old Sep 30, 2005, 03:12 PM   #5
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You'd see a boost, and you could put the eye candy up to the max and still see significantly higher fps than the 9600xt.
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Old Oct 1, 2005, 07:25 AM   #6
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You'd see a massive friggin' boost lol
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Old Oct 1, 2005, 07:30 AM   #7
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I went from a 9700pro to an X800XL AGP.. OMG.. the increase in FPS and image quality is like a slap in the face. AA and AF and in game setting to max.. Runs like a dream. It is truly night and day.. When the CPU is not the bottleneck, count on twice the framerate with the eye candy turned on. Get the card man, just get it.
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Yep, just to add, I went from a AiW 9800pro 128mb to an X800XL 256mb and haven't regretted it once.

If you're going from a 9600 and have already accepted that you have the cash spare to upgrade then I'd say go for it, you should see a nice improvement.
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Old Oct 3, 2005, 10:44 AM   #9
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I went from a 9700pro to an X800XL AGP.. OMG.. the increase in FPS and image quality is like a slap in the face. AA and AF and in game setting to max.. Runs like a dream. It is truly night and day.. When the CPU is not the bottleneck, count on twice the framerate with the eye candy turned on. Get the card man, just get it.
I just made the same jump this past weekend. IIRC the 9700pro outstrips the 9600XT performance, or is at least roughly equivalent.

w/ the X800XL i cranked all my settings to max in DOD:S, including full HDR, and had a higher FPS rate than I did w/ my 9700pro w/o AA or AS.

Great upgrade, and if those sell-sheets for the X1300/X1600 are true then the X800XL will still be very competitive (if not superior).
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Old Oct 3, 2005, 11:30 AM   #10
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Enless you've got a CPU that is clearly 2ghz (amd) or 3ghz (intel) and not one of the sempron variation, you won't see nearly the boost.

Source heavily relies on CPU, Ram, even Hardrive, sound.

Video card, yes it does rely on it. But, i've ran into serveral attempts to increase the video speed, why upgrading the video card does improve it, it still can quite slow, unresponcive, hell stutter like crazy and drive you nutz trying to figure out why you can shoot someone point blank with 100 rounds while they nail you once and your down.

ATM, i'm running a x2 4400+ with a x700pro 256mb. I'm still trying to find the source of the stuttering. As it throws everything right off, Even though i'm pinned at 85fps (vsync) @ 1280x1024 and running a self hosted server with 24 bots (an i might add, amazingly well without a hitch)
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Old Oct 3, 2005, 01:03 PM   #12
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2x 300gb SATA150 Seagates on RAID0
1024mb (2x 512mb) corsair DDR400 RAM
AMD Athlon 3200+ Barton CPU
ATI Radeon 9600 XT AIW 128mb
on a Foxconn 600A01-6LRS mobo

With those specs I think you will get a big increase in IQ and speed when it isn't CPU bound.. I have almost the same system (besides HDs) and did almost the same upgrade, it was worth it for sure.
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