Catalyst or omega Drivers Or ATI Tool for OC ?

SexPistoL · Jun 21, 2005, 09:42 AM

Hi Everyone,

I'm just about to OC my Grphics Card, should I use the Catalyst or Omega drivers, or should I use the ATI-Tool, or should I use something else for best results ?
As you can see cooling is not an issue !

My Specs;
P4 3.2E with XP90 and 92mm fan
MSI 865PE Neo2-Platinum Edition
2 Gig of RAM
Jetway - ATI Radeon 9600XT 256MB with Arctic Cooling ATI Silencer 2
2x80mm front intake fans
2x80mm exhaust fans
1x80mm side intake fan and funnel over the CPU

Widkidone · Jun 21, 2005, 09:48 AM

well there is no Omega 5.6 yet.......

SexPistoL · Jun 21, 2005, 10:09 AM

Hi Widkidone

Yea they should be out this week.......But what do you reakon on my Q ?

Widkidone · Jun 21, 2005, 10:16 AM

http://www.majorgeeks.com/ATITool_d4109.html try this

INSTG8R · Jun 21, 2005, 10:20 AM

Im with Widkid on that one too
Not only can you use it to set your clocks you'll be able to control your Fan eg Dynamically according to temps you set it too and monitor the temps in the Taskbar if you so choose. I dont OC too much with it but I use the Fan Control and Temp Monitor always

Widkidone · Jun 21, 2005, 10:28 AM

you havea good card you do not really need to overclock anyways. You havea 256mb card. You patience, not overclocking, LMAO.

SexPistoL · Jun 21, 2005, 12:11 PM

LOL@Widkidone and thanks to you and INSTG8R for advice i'm gonna check out the ATI-Tool and i'll BRB.

PS whats wrong with my card hehe

SexPistoL · Jun 21, 2005, 01:29 PM

Hi again,

ive just checked out the ATI-Tool, seems ok ! if I dont like it can i just roll back to my original drivers, or will any of the settings be perminant or detrimental to my card, or damage it in any way..

H3X4D3C1M4L · Jun 21, 2005, 08:30 PM

Overclocking does shorten the life span of that card but if I was you I wouldn't worry you'll end up replacing it fast.

The drivers, no, nothing is permenant in software. Anything you do to modify your hardware, yes, but the software is not permenant.

SexPistoL · Jun 22, 2005, 08:29 AM

H3X4D3C1M4L.......Thx mate for the input .....I think it will OC well my average GPU temp is only 34oC when gameing, so i'll give it a little push at a time and see how I get on....

BTW...when useing ATT what are the yellow numbers in the top right corner of the screen ?
And how do I unlock my card with ATT.....thx

SexPistoL · Jun 22, 2005, 09:18 AM

Back again,
Ive just been fragging on AA for 30mins. Do these figures seem right to you...?

GPU Temp Idle 33oC fragging 40oC
Env Temp Idle 34oC fragging 43oC
Max FPS 294

I was using ATI Tray Tool Ver 1.0.2.690

my Sys specs above

H3X4D3C1M4L · Jun 22, 2005, 10:03 AM

They seem good to me....have you tried ATI Tool?

With that card you should be able to get from 500/300 default (rough numbers) to somewhere around 575/340 with the arctic cooler.....I've seen even higher (610/245), but the RAM had wimpier cooling.

Try and go as high as you can without it screwing up by doing this:
Use ATI Tool or ATI Tray Tools and do the find max mem/core function. That will give you an idea of how high it'll go.

Then go up by about 10 Mhz, then play for about an hour, see if its ok, then play again after bumping it another 10 MHz. Once you run into problems knock it back 5 Mhz until its all good, and you should be OK.

SexPistoL · Jun 22, 2005, 10:12 AM

Hi H3X4D3C1M4L,

At the moment i'm on default settings 500/297.
I'm gonna try tray tool but there dont seem to be a good guide for it anywhere.
any suggestions on;
1 loc of guide
2 what the yellow no's mean in top right corner of screen
3 best settings for ATT

thx bud

H3X4D3C1M4L · Jun 22, 2005, 10:19 AM

I don't really use ATT because I find ATI Tool much better and I don't really need all the tweaks, but as for OC'ing, there should be an overclocking tab in ATT and there should be a find max mem/core button in there.

As for the yellow numbers it could be a frame count, to display FPS

SexPistoL · Jun 23, 2005, 07:49 AM

Does anyone else have any more suggestions, which tool is the best for OCing my Card.
All input appreciated.....

H3X4D3C1M4L · Jun 23, 2005, 11:15 AM

You only really have the following choices....

1. Don't
2. Ati tray tools
3. My method (ATI Tool)
4. Rage3D Tweak
5. RivaTuner
6. RadLinker/Omega
7. Overdrive

Those are your only chocies, so pick one :P

felixml · Jun 24, 2005, 12:11 PM

I use DNA drivers and love them, better and easier than Catalyst

Ðamage™ · Jun 24, 2005, 12:46 PM

Hey brothers from different mothers.. well the best tool that I've found for OC'ing your ATi card is radclocker which can be found over here at this site..
http://www28.brinkster.com/chrisww1942/ I also use the ATiTool for checking any problems with my OC and by far its gui and easy interface lets you tweak some of the finer points of the card like latencies, which can be found here..
http://www.techpowerup.com/atitool/ . Always make sure you have proper cooling for your video card, I can't stress this enough and I'm sure anyone that has OC'd there card will tell you the same.. and it doesnt hurt to go out and grab a descent vga cooler with some copper heatsinks for the ram. Best of luck with your overclocking and be careful.. you dont want to fry the sucker

peace.

p.s. I use the UniAn driver set and in my opinion it is the best set out there right now for the 5.6 (seriously). http://www.driverheaven.net/showthread.php?t=77415

SexPistoL · Jun 24, 2005, 02:43 PM

Guys cheers for the input I really appreciate it, i best go and do some research on your suggestions. I'll let you know how I get on....Again thanks

H3X4D3C1M4L · Jun 25, 2005, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ðamage™

Hey brothers from different mothers.. well the best tool that I've found for OC'ing your ATi card is radclocker which can be found over here at this site..
http://www28.brinkster.com/chrisww1942/ I also use the ATiTool for checking any problems with my OC and by far its gui and easy interface lets you tweak some of the finer points of the card like latencies, which can be found here..
http://www.techpowerup.com/atitool/ . Always make sure you have proper cooling for your video card, I can't stress this enough and I'm sure anyone that has OC'd there card will tell you the same.. and it doesnt hurt to go out and grab a descent vga cooler with some copper heatsinks for the ram. Best of luck with your overclocking and be careful.. you dont want to fry the sucker

peace.

p.s. I use the UniAn driver set and in my opinion it is the best set out there right now for the 5.6 (seriously). http://www.driverheaven.net/showthread.php?t=77415

I suggested both of those utilities already and explained why

SexPistoL · Jun 25, 2005, 05:41 PM

Hey H3X4D3C1M4L,

I know you did and thank you very much for you suggestions. I mean you as well as everyone else that has given their time and imput to my Q's, when I expressed my thanks to ;

"Guys cheers for the input I really appreciate it"

Ðamage™ · Jun 25, 2005, 11:08 PM

wow hex.. sorry for stepping on your feet man.. the man asked a question and I gave him the info because thats what I use.. ez now there gunpowder. You'd think I pissed in your box of wheaties there.

SexPistoL · Jun 26, 2005, 09:34 AM

Ive finished playing with the Unian v1.1.56 and using ATI Tray Tool v 1.0.2.685. To see how my Graphic Card would "Overclock" below are the results;

CPU @3423mhz DRAM @256mb
Values Default :GPU 500.00mhz Mem 600.00mhz
Max OC with 0 artifacts (Average 3x each) GPU 519mhz Mem 659mhz
Max stable combination with 0 artifacts: GPU 514.80mhz Mem 644.40mhz
Temps: Room 22.7oC
Idle: CPU 28oC SYS 29oC (MSI Corecenter)
GPU 31oC ENV 32oC (ATI Tray Tool)
Load: CPU 45oC SYS 31oC
GPU 40oC ENV 45oC

Q. Is it possible to OC this card BETTER ?

SexPistoL · Jun 26, 2005, 03:38 PM

I'm in shock ! 6 hours and no feedback hehe............is the card that bad and you are all being polite, gee thanks guys hehe.

There must be something I can do to it apart from burn, break or buy a new one. Any constructive suggestions greatly appreciated.

Ðamage™ · Jun 26, 2005, 03:54 PM

Thats excellent SexPistol.. your doing great with the overlock. It all depends on your vga cooling, if your using stock cooling then thats fantastic. I use the Zalman Ultra quiet cooler VF700-cu and its simply amazing. I've been able to overlock my card which is a 9800 pro default Core - 378 and Memory - 338, with the Zalman I've been able to reach Core - 415 and Memory - 385.. which in my books is pretty damn impressive. As long as your not getting any artifacts and such with the overclock keep going in increments of .5 and make sure its stable for about and 1hour to 2 hours.. maybe more depends on how paranoid you are about it frying it..

lol good luck bro

SexPistoL · Jun 26, 2005, 04:22 PM

Hey Damage,
Ive fitted an "ATI Arctic Cooling Silencer 2" On my Card and my temps seem good so I thought it may have OC'd slightly better than it has. Dont get me wrong im pleased with its performance. I'd just like to see how far it can go, without toasting it....

SexPistoL · Jun 26, 2005, 04:38 PM

Ive just checked out the Zalman I can see why you have had such big increases on your card...........Its a cool beast! Good choice. With my AC Silencer the temps are quite low, so is the problem, my settings my card or me. Mmmmmmmmmmmm

Ðamage™ · Jun 26, 2005, 04:50 PM

Ya I looked around first for my vga cooler and I did some research on the vga silencers but I'm crazy about overclocking so I needed to best of the best and the Zalman vga cooler I choose was something I needed for my crazy addiction lol. There roughly about 50 dollars Canadian and with the performace I've gotten out of it.. it was a well bought purchase. I tried another cooler before I got this one and man did it suck.. I actually had to underclock my card so I wouldn't get artifacts, it was called VANTEC ICEBERQ4 COPPER VGA COOLER..