9800 Pro w/ Iceberq 4 - No overclock?

daedal · Mar 20, 2005, 02:20 PM

I think I may have messed up when I installed my Iceberq 4 cooler because I can't, and I mean can't, overclock my Sapphire 9800 Pro.

The slightest core increase (less than 20mhz!) will start rendering errors in ATITool. Now, I'm not sure if I have properly set the thermal paste. Could that be the source of my problems? The included instructions with the Iceberq were TERRIBLE so I wasn't too sure how to proceed. Anyhow, does it really make a big difference? I'm really scared of pulling those push pins back out: I don't want to scratch my card and they require pliers to press down on the pins to pull it out.

Any ideas?

Piromans · Mar 21, 2005, 08:12 AM

HMMM If it is R350 core of your 9800 pro it cant be clocked more....

I have MSI 9800PRO Medion XXL wich is reqognized by 9800XT and can reach 430/400 with def cooling....3dmark 03 7300

me972 · Mar 21, 2005, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Piromans

...... and can reach 430/400 with def cooling....3dmark 03 7300

Can you back that up with links to ORB?

daedal · Mar 21, 2005, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Piromans

HMMM If it is R350 core of your 9800 pro it cant be clocked more....

I have MSI 9800PRO Medion XXL wich is reqognized by 9800XT and can reach 430/400 with def cooling....3dmark 03 7300

Alright, so that might be the issue then.
How do I verify that?

redsolar · Mar 21, 2005, 11:02 AM

Daedal, have you even been able to overclock it any? If not - then you just may have a topped out card, and it won't overclock. As usual, any overclocking is a shot of luck.

Sandok · Mar 21, 2005, 11:19 AM

Ya I got a 9800 Pro wit ha R350 chip and I can barely get 20 hertz out of it

PS: I got the AC rev 3 silencer!

redsolar · Mar 21, 2005, 12:36 PM

The card in my sig is a Sapphire 9800 Non Pro with R350. Stock at 325/290 it does 450/375 when needed, no artefacts. So it's all about luck, really. Arctic Silencer 3 on it as well, though it did the same with stock cooling.

daedal · Mar 22, 2005, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by redsolar

Daedal, have you even been able to overclock it any? If not - then you just may have a topped out card, and it won't overclock. As usual, any overclocking is a shot of luck.

I did manage to put is somewhat stable around 20-25mhz higher in core (which is barely anything) but anything higher than that started creating artifacts with ATITool so I didn't even bother gaming with it in case.

And I wasn't able to raise the core even in the slightest bit, even with my heatsinks on there. Guess I do have one those "out of luck" cores/cards.. damnit.

Sandok · Mar 22, 2005, 07:29 AM

Welcome to my world daedal

daedal · Mar 22, 2005, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by sandok

Welcome to my world daedal

Your world sucks. I want out.

Sandok · Mar 22, 2005, 10:42 AM

If you find a way out tell me!

redsolar · Mar 22, 2005, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by sandok

If you find a way out tell me!

I doubt he will be able to, if he is out. There is no telling back when you are out

.

me972 · Mar 23, 2005, 01:03 PM

TRY A NEW PSU or at least check the voltage on your 3.3V rail.
using your motherboard monitoring util.
if at any point you see the 3.3 go under 3.2volts then that might be your problem.
at the begining I had the same issue and then I upgraded my PSU and that solved everything for me..

good luck

daedal · Mar 23, 2005, 08:55 PM

3.3v seems to be somewhat stable at 2.296
Running an Antec supply and so far, it hasn't let me down but I'll try deifnitly try it out when it's packed in my new PC.

gangsterant16 · Mar 23, 2005, 09:02 PM

no no no i have a ati 9800 pro with the iceburq piece of crap and it used to get overheated even more then with stock and the problem is the gpu shim u have to remove it to make contact with the core if not it won't cool for crap!

daedal · Mar 23, 2005, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by gangsterant16

no no no i have a ati 9800 pro with the iceburq piece of crap and it used to get overheated even more then with stock and the problem is the gpu shim u have to remove it to make contact with the core if not it won't cool for crap!

The wha? First time I hear that one.
By the shim, are you reffering to the "ring" around the GPU?
I don't think that coul really be it. I'm pretty sure it makes full contact with the GPU.

It might just be a poor thermal paste job on my part but the instructions were lousy.. I'll bring the card to my local PC store and get them to put some Artic Silver on it and see. Any other suggestions, or can anyone rectify the shim thing?

me972 · Mar 24, 2005, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by daedal

3.3v seems to be somewhat stable at 2.296
Running an Antec supply and so far, it hasn't let me down but I'll try deifnitly try it out when it's packed in my new PC.

2.296Volts is way way too low!!!!!! thats almost surly your problem...
you must replace your PSU.....
it will make your system alot more stable since your CPU also uses this rail...

brgds
me972

daedal · Mar 24, 2005, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by me972

2.296Volts is way way too low!!!!!! thats almost surly your problem...
you must replace your PSU.....
it will make your system alot more stable since your CPU also uses this rail...

brgds
me972

Err, I meant 3.296.. I think.

I'll double-check when I get home but I'm sure it's getting the Voltage it needs or I would have noticed for sure and I would also have been warned by several applications.

me972 · Mar 24, 2005, 09:41 AM

so just make sure... :-)

if its 3.2 then your ok... and you just may have gotten a crappy card that can't o/c...

The_Neon_Cowboy · Mar 24, 2005, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by daedal

Err, I meant 3.296.. I think.

I'll double-check when I get home but I'm sure it's getting the Voltage it needs or I would have noticed for sure and I would also have been warned by several applications.

you can't really trust you bios / on board readings anyways the sensors on totally uncalabrated. should use . rely on a digital voltameter

daedal · Mar 25, 2005, 06:18 AM

It's been years since I last used a Voltmeter.. afraid I wouldn't remember hot to verify that. And where would I? I acn remember to how calibrate the thing for Voltage readout but I'm not too sure where I should take the reading.

Should I be grabbing it directly from the 4pin 3.3v cable? In which "holes" ?

daedal · Mar 26, 2005, 10:44 PM

Hmm, turns out it might be overheating. I ran it through 3d Mark 2005 and the PC locked up. I'll be picking up some artic silver on re-applying it over my card and processor to make sure.

I didn't see any artifacts that would suggest that though, could that mean it's the processor overheating? It's actually running at ~48deg Celcius under stress so I dunno.