How is this MSI 9800PRO?

No_Style · Jun 15, 2004, 11:48 PM

Look at this card

What's your opinion of this card?

Or maybe a typical Sapphire one would be better?

Chaos · Jun 16, 2004, 02:43 AM

I like MSI products, I used to have one of their GeForce 4 Ti 4200 and I have a MSI motherboard that works great

mainman · Jun 16, 2004, 02:45 AM

I really like the cooling solutions that MSI uses in there cards.

JuanCarlos · Jun 16, 2004, 07:25 AM

Hi,

I have this card and guess what!!! my core is R360 so i have 9800PRO~9800XT

cool!!!

JC

No_Style · Jun 16, 2004, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JuanCarlos
Hi,

I have this card and guess what!!! my core is R360 so i have 9800PRO~9800XT cool!!!

JC

Nice

Drakon · Jun 16, 2004, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JuanCarlos
Hi,

I have this card and guess what!!! my core is R360 so i have 9800PRO~9800XT cool!!!

JC

how do u check to see which core u got? i just recently bought a 9800 Pro, but i dunno which core it has.

JuanCarlos · Jun 16, 2004, 01:46 PM

Drakon,

Run dxdiag save the file and check it, in my case it says 9800XT

JC

tastyweat · Jun 16, 2004, 02:02 PM

guys... the card at the other end of that link is a 9800se... not a 9800pro...

Quote:

Quad-Pipe architecture

9800pro cards have 8 pipes - not 4

No_Style · Jun 16, 2004, 02:42 PM

Oh this is B.S...What kind of deceptive naming is that?!

tastyweat · Jun 16, 2004, 02:43 PM

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Originally posted by No_Style
Oh this is B.S...What kind of deceptive naming is that?!

I know... it isn't kind - but that card you linked to - according to those specs is a 9800se not a pro

No_Style · Jun 16, 2004, 02:45 PM

It was either the Sapphire or the MSI. I was a little skeptical about the MSI. I have their TV@nywhere Tuner card and right now it isn't going "anywhere". I'm going to e-mail the shopkeep and ask him about it...

No_Style · Jun 16, 2004, 03:06 PM

8-pixel pipeline architecture doubles the rendering power of any competing product currently on the market.

tastyweat · Jun 16, 2004, 03:10 PM

ah crap... sorry man... it means I just made a fool out of myself - it IS a 9800pro - sorry to confuse you mate!

No_Style · Jun 16, 2004, 04:45 PM

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Originally posted by tastyweat
ah crap... sorry man... it means I just made a fool out of myself - it IS a 9800pro - sorry to confuse you mate!

Don't worry, I made a fool out of myself when I went and e-mailed the shopkeep LOL!

tastyweat · Jun 16, 2004, 04:58 PM

oh dear - sorry mate

Drakon · Jun 16, 2004, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JuanCarlos
Drakon,

Run dxdiag save the file and check it, in my case it says 9800XT

JC

Thanks Juan. Do i check what is next to Card Name, under Display Devices?

No_Style · Jun 16, 2004, 06:30 PM

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Originally posted by tastyweat
oh dear - sorry mate

Good to know that there are people looking out for one another though, even though it was a false alarm

JuanCarlos · Jun 16, 2004, 07:40 PM

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Originally posted by Drakon
Thanks Juan. Do i check what is next to Card Name, under Display Devices?

Hi, here is a part of my dxdiag file saved.

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Display Devices
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Card name: RADEON 9800 XT
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip type: RADEON 9800 XT AGP (0x4E4A)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4E4A&SUBSYS_95601462&REV_00
Display Memory: 128.0 MB
Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Samsung SyncMaster 750ST(T)
Monitor Max Res: 1280,1024
Driver Name: ati2dvag.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.6451 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 5/15/2004 22:42:06, 206336 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
VDD: n/a
Mini VDD: ati2mtag.sys
Mini VDD Date: 5/15/2004 22:41:40, 745984 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-0D0A-11CF-E16E-6AB5A1C2CB35}
Vendor ID: 0x1002
Device ID: 0x4E4A
SubSys ID: 0x95601462
Revision ID: 0x0000
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D
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My box says MSI RX9800 9800PRO 128MB DDR TV-Out/DVI-I

JC

Drakon · Jun 16, 2004, 08:30 PM

well thanks Juan. This is what mine said:
---------------
Display Devices
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Card name: RADEON 9800 PRO (Omega 2.5.36b)
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc. (Omega 2.5.36b)
Chip type: RADEON 9800 AGP (0x4E48)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4E48&SUBSYS_00021002&REV_00
Display Memory: 128.0 MB

So i guess i got the R350 core...

JuanCarlos · Jun 16, 2004, 11:47 PM

Drakon,

Yeap

This is what in another forum answer to me, but i don't test my core and memory speeds yet... i don't know how

"Many 9800 Pro cards are currently shipping with the R360 core (the core used on the XT card). Manufacturers are getting rid of their R350 and R360 inventory, and it seems they have alot of R360 cores. Usually they'll install the R360 core onto a Pro board, and flash the GPU to a Pro BIOS. Sounds like you got something special. For reference, if the card has the following notations in the upper left corner of the board it is:

"109-A18800-xx" is the XT board
"109-A07500-xx" is the Pro board

Also, what kind of memory do you have? The code should be right on the memory chips.

Finally, check whatever software you're using with the card (MSI's, or ATI or Omega, etc.), and it will tell you what the core and memory speeds are. 380/340 are the stock Pro speeds, 412/365 are the stock XT speeds."

JC

Drakon · Jun 17, 2004, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JuanCarlos
Drakon,

Yeap

This is what in another forum answer to me, but i don't test my core and memory speeds yet... i don't know how

"Many 9800 Pro cards are currently shipping with the R360 core (the core used on the XT card). Manufacturers are getting rid of their R350 and R360 inventory, and it seems they have alot of R360 cores. Usually they'll install the R360 core onto a Pro board, and flash the GPU to a Pro BIOS. Sounds like you got something special. For reference, if the card has the following notations in the upper left corner of the board it is:

"109-A18800-xx" is the XT board
"109-A07500-xx" is the Pro board

Also, what kind of memory do you have? The code should be right on the memory chips.

Finally, check whatever software you're using with the card (MSI's, or ATI or Omega, etc.), and it will tell you what the core and memory speeds are. 380/340 are the stock Pro speeds, 412/365 are the stock XT speeds."

JC

Well thanks for all the info, Juan. I checked RadLinker and it's 380/340... ohh darn!

No_Style · Jun 19, 2004, 02:04 PM

I just installed the MSI 9800 PRO and it's recognized as a 9800XT as well. Of course there is no Overdrive, but I wonder what benefits I get out of it

No overclocking yet~ ...keyword: YET!

pr0digal jenius · Jun 19, 2004, 02:26 PM

how many RAM cards are on your radeon...8 or 16?

No_Style · Jun 19, 2004, 08:42 PM

It's hidden by the heatsink. It's definitely 128 MB of VRAM.