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Old Apr 30, 2004, 05:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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9800XT running like a 9700Pro
I recently bought (today) a Gigabyte 9800XT.

I was previously running a 9700pro. I uninstalled the ATi drivers, shut off the machine, put in the 9800XT and restarted, then reinstalled the Catalyst 4.4's. After running 3Dmark2001SE, I was amazed to see a score of 15506 - pretty much the same score my 9700pro used to post. I then ran AquaMark3 and got this score, a measly 39461. According to the result browser, other users with the same system spec as me are turning in scores of 50,000.

I then did a clean re-install of XP Pro, in case this was the problem. I've installed all of my motherboard drivers, reinstalled the Catalyst 4.4's, Dx9.0b, etc etc. I'm getting the EXACT same scores. I've tried the 3.8 Cats and the latest Omega drivers too. (Currently running) I have overdrive enabled in the control panel, and it's reporting a temp. of 69C under normal operation, without any overclocking. (no load whatsoever, in windows) Smartgart tells me it's running at 4x (my m/b only supports this) with Fast Writes off. I've disabled the secondary adapter, TrueForm and Vsync are set to always off. Dxdiag tells me everything's enabled. I can't see any problems, but the card is seriously underperforming.

My system specs are as follows:

P4 3ghz with HT on
Gigabyte GA-8PE667 Ultra 2 motherboard
1gb DDR333 RAM
Gigabyte Radeon 9800XT
450W PSU

If anyone could give me any other suggestions, I'd be most thankful - this is driving me insane!
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Old Apr 30, 2004, 06:05 PM   #2 (permalink)
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by re-install, do you mean you just reinstalled windows? or you formatted an then installed windows.

try the driver cleaner before reinstalling, that's pretty odd that is happening i would say.
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Old Apr 30, 2004, 06:18 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I just re-installed Windows, no format.

Would the driver cleaner make a difference? I've only had ATi cards in this system since the last format.
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Old Apr 30, 2004, 07:01 PM   #4 (permalink)
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My CPU score in AquaMark seems to be a helluva lot lower than rigs with the same processor.. could this be the problem? If so, what could it be?
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Old May 1, 2004, 03:44 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Here's my 3dmark03 score by comparison.

Is this normal? And how come my CPU score is so much lower than other 3ghz P4's?
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Disable HT when you benchmark and see what happens.
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Even when overclocking my 9800 pro... i get results that aren't exactly steller.... 15000 3dmarks.... overclocking the hell outa my card results in a measely 100 3dmarks...i'm cpu/fsb bound.... what is your P4's FSB at? 400/800?
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It's a 533Mhz CPU/MB.

I just managed to get a 3Dmark03 score of 6451 - which seems to be quite a decent score. Someone on another forum has suggested that because Aquamark and 3dmark2001SE are more CPU dependant, that my 533mhz CPU/MB and the low 133mhz FSB speed are acting as bottlenecks in these benchmarks - while 3dmark03 is more indicative of the actual performance of the card.

Do you think that's a reasonable conclusion?
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It's a 533Mhz CPU/MB.

I just managed to get a 3Dmark03 score of 6451 - which seems to be quite a decent score. Someone on another forum has suggested that because Aquamark and 3dmark2001SE are more CPU dependant, that my 533mhz CPU/MB and the low 133mhz FSB speed are acting as bottlenecks in these benchmarks - while 3dmark03 is more indicative of the actual performance of the card.

Do you think that's a reasonable conclusion?
Yes, I would say that. Sounds like you found the problem.
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yes... i do.. i score 6000 3dmark03 marks.... so you are getting a good results.. your FSB bound like me..... i'm running 166fsb on my barton.. (sig below).... people with a similare rig... and new mobo's with the nforce or KT600+ chipsets are pushing numbers around then 18000+ 3dmark01se and 6500 with 03...... with the same vid card....
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Sounds like my next upgrade will have to be a new 800mhz CPU/MB combo. Time to start saving again!

Thanks for all the help guys, it's very much appreciated!
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Sounds like my next upgrade will have to be a new 800mhz CPU/MB combo. Time to start saving again!

Thanks for all the help guys, it's very much appreciated!
no problemo....

Check out other peoples 3dmark 03 specs.... and see what they have for motherboards and parts...

Then see if they have a 3dmark01 score posted.. and see what the difference is..... use the futuremark orb well.... it's got some advantages...

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