ViRuS2k

Getting this XT card very very soon

could you possibly tell me if the OVERDRIVE in the Next 3.9`s Will Work With This Monster ??????

its a shame it does not work there is always the Smart Docter II but i want Catylist OVERDRIVE :P

please, pritty please with cherry on top :P

craig588

Overdrive is just overclocking, but very conservitive overclocking. You would be better off manually doing it.

BWX

It works with the 3.8's I think- get the card and see if it does.

Not that you need to OC that card anyway..

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Mazuko

It works with the 3.8's, but very conservatively as mentioned.

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craig588

hehe, yeah. 418MHz from 412MHz.

Bicka

The asus card doesnt work with 3.8's overdrive feature...Thats what all the reviews have said so far.

ViRuS2k

yeah thats what i read aswell... thats why i asked...
not that a ATI guy would ever look in here.

the Asus card is built on the ATI VPU so it should allow it i want a explination why it does not
becuse if it cant be enabled or used in say Catylist 3.9 release then i will stay away from getting a Asus card.......

mike2h

the 'xt' asus cards are supposed to come with a propietary overclocking(software) that is supposed to work quite well.

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Gizmo[5h1t3]

the card is new...the driverset is new.

these are problems that`ll be ironed out in future update/drivers etc.

what in gods name are you doing to need your card overclocking anyway???

you a 3d mark result junkie???

there is no card faster at the moment....and i can think of using the card for better games than competing with ppl for an extra few 3d marks.

try playing fifa 2004 with an XT....you will see wot i mean m8.

Bicka

Fifa 2004! Has the day finally came where you need a 9800xt to get decent fps in a football game?!?
Have they gotten rid of all the cardboard cut out people and replaced them with 3d models or something cos that would explain it!

PapaMoll

I returned my ASUS 9800XT card cause I had a lot of problems with it. Beginning with the SmartDoctor (which should replace the OVERDRIVE) and ending by the poor drivers (7.93) which come with the card. For a card in the price range of $600 I want the following features:

- The bundled software (Games etc) must show correct textures (Look at Battle Engine Agila!!! My god!!)
- The Ati reference drivers must work 100%!!! (Cat 3.8 dropped down the card 30% in performance!!! My god!!!)
- SmartDoctor not 100% supported by the card nor the manual ist correct and lots of features are not implemented. One of the bad things is that the SmartDoctor permanently reports that the VGA Core dropped down to 0,5V!!!! My god!!!....

Cause ASUS left me alone with my problems. Today I will change to a Hercules 9800XT which ist 100% supported by the Reference Drivers of Ati.

What should I do with a card which has no performance drivers and isn't supported well by the reference drivers? If ASUS would release permanent drivers in parallel to the Catalyst Releases this would be no problem for me. But they still offer the 7.93 drivers (I think it is the modified Cat 3.7 driver) on their website.

Yesterday they released Smartdoctor 3.10. I thought yeah man this will function well. Nope it terminates at installation with the error "This card is not supportet by SmartDoctor 3.10". Looking in the Release.txt they mention: "3.02 Added Support for 9800XT". LOL this is the release which comes with the card. Also the original tool says Version 2.3 uppon starting.

These things are telling me I better return my card and switch to a "100% supported by Ati card".

Sorry for my bad english!

Greets
PapaMoll
from Germany

Bicka

If your from Germany why didn't you pay in Euros? -ta Vamp
Wheres your screengrab showing Battle Engine Agila's non correct textures?
How isn't the manual correct? Which features aren't implemented?
If the Smartdoctor permanently shows 0.5V could it be that its your motherboard is not reading it correctly or that it is infact set to 0.5V?
How do you know it drops by 30% in performance? Have you done a benchmark yourself? Can we see it?
What do you mean by ASUS leaving you alone? Did you try ringing them? Emailing them? Did you try other countries customer support sites?
I don't think you've given ASUS enough time to get its drivers in to the swing of things. I'm sure ATI will get their drivers OVERDRIVE feature to work with ASUS cards soon enough.
Why is it that every review and benchmark done with the ASUS 9800XT and the stock ATI 9800XT shows that this card is in fact a high, if not higher, performance card. I ordered this card a month ago and yet to get it because its so high in demand. A month ago it hadnt even came out, stores didnt have it. Its funny that you don't have the patience to wait even a month for ASUS to release new drivers.
These things are telling you that you'd rather pay more for another 9800XT card that performs the same? Meh.

Sorry for 'my' bad english!

Al_Vampyre

Erm...don't you mean Euros??

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Bicka

Maybe I should have said German currency then...

PapaMoll

Hi! We pay in Euros. And Euros are nearly the same level as Dollars. So i postet it in dollars :-)


Sorry I played BEA for about 1 times. I have no screencapture. But I had a fresh system. ASUS Card installed, Original driver 7.93 installed and after that, BEA and GUN METAL. Gun Metal runs perfect, but BEA had no Floortextures, only a black one. Trust me. With Cat 3.8 Drivers I got the textures!!!

The manual for SmartDoctor (Online Help) shows Settings/Buttons and so on which are not present in the SmartDoctor which was shipped with the card. It seems that SmartDoctor got patched to run with the new 9800XT from earlier releases. Also it shows Version 2.3. In the Onlinehelp and the Readme.txt they mention a 3.02 Version. If you download SmartDoctor 3.02 from their website in the 9800XT Driver Section again you get the 2.3 Version. If you download the 3.10 Version from their 9800XT Support Area you get a SmartDoctor which didn't detect their own 9800XT and aborts installation!

I have a MSI 865PE NEO2 FIS2R Board with an P4 3,0Ghz FSB800 and 1 Gig of Corsair Twin X Pro Mem C2. All, really all tools report the actual and correct Voltage Setting, only SmartDoctor has Problems. It also reads wrong VCORE Voltage Settings. So SmartDoctor is wrong. If you have installed it, try to play a Game, I activated not to inform me about warning but the Screen (especially in Unreal2) begins to go black for about 1 second and come back (Maybee VPU recover is activating!). Let me tell you, I tested this card for about 2 Weeks and i am really disappointed with the Software and drivers!

I tested about 6 Benchmarks from 3dMark2001 over Aquamark and X2, they drop aprox. 30% in Frames when switching to the Original Catalyst Drivers. These effect were also reportet in many German PC Mags I was told from a friend.

Look I have no Problem with ASUS cause I have returned my 9800XT, but I had a lot of questions and the only option was to call ASUS in the United States. On their website are old drivers and I cannot switch to the Catalyst, which is a problem for everybody in my situation. Think of it: You got a 9800XT, the delivered Drivers are bad and the Tools aren't working and the Reference Drivers won't work well with your card. What would you do? Wait till ASUS updates their drivers every 3 Month or so? Overdrive also isn't working and ASUS tells the world SmartDoctor is their solution. Hmmm see above. No thanks!

That's possible! Your are right! But this card was very expensive and I'm not going into an adventure every time I have some problems with my drivers when I cannot switch back to the reference ones. Maybe ASUS delivers new drivers, but I don't want to wait every time till ASUS fixes something. I want to run in the meantime the catalyst drivers! With this performance I can also buy a 9800 nonpro!

I bought this card based on all reviews. But read the reviews now! I am totaly right, cause nobody tested the card with the Catalyst Drivers! As I told before ASUS will fix this problems, sure, but I don't want to wait everytime for them to fix something. Their card is not a 100% ATI Reference Design. Don't know what they changed. You got a 9800XT? Ever run BEA??? Install the 3.8/3.9 drivers and look to the difference!

??? I send back my ASUS 9800XT and got a Hercules 9800XT for 549 Euros, the price of the ASUS was 599 Euros. The Hercules lacks only one thing. TV-IN. But after testing this option I must say I don't need that, the Quality is too bad for my needs.

Now (bought it 3 hours before) I had a 9800XT from Hercules and no Problems with Grafics, Benchmarks and so on. Also the Catalyst Drivers are runnning with the same speed as the ASUS with their (in my opinion) Performance optimized drivers.

Why waiting for ASUS when I can get another one from Hercules with the same performance??? Read the actual tests about the ASUS card which are based on Catalyst drivers. It seems the ASUS is the only one which has problems with the Catalyst. (A Rage Theater Problem maybe???) Don't know.

Now i play without this ugly SmartDoctor and have no problems.

PS: Ever tried to run the Dolphin Demo of ATI with the ASUS??? Forget it! The demo told me very time my card would not support N-Patches! Now it runs fine.... A last word: I just wanted to tell you all my experiences with this Highend card, I don't hate ASUS or love HERCULES, I just want to play. ASUS is no help for me cause I cannot contact them (when from the States this is something completely different!), so I had to go this way.

Greets from Germany
PapaMoll :-)

Bicka

Oh well. I'd best keep my eye out for the new reviews that will surely start pouring in. Hopefully by the time I get my ASUS card they will have released better drivers.

Thanks for the quick reply and your english is spot on. Wish I could say the same about my German, or lack of it.

PapaMoll

Hi Bicka!

I'm sure they will release better drivers. Yesterday I also sent an email regarding the Catalyst Problems direct to Ati. Maybe they fix the ASUS performance problems in the Catalyst drivers. If i get a response from them I will post it into this thread.

Greets
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