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Old Jan 2, 2008, 07:24 PM   #1
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Is nVidia's AGP better than ATI?

I bought a HIS HD 2600 XT from Newegg before the holidays and ever since then, it's only given me a headache. I've tried several different drivers (including Omegadrivers) and either I get BSOD with a page in nonpage area error, or horrible FPS (to the point where I don't even need a FPS to tell it's running in the teens at the most) and reading up on things, all I know is that I can't hope for the best because ATI has long since gave AGP users the boot.

My whole experience about this has me doing the same with them, except I won't be building a new rig until I'm preparing for college, so for now I'm making due with the old faithful HP Media Center PC I have now.

I'm especially pissed because I still had the laggy FPS even after setting everything to low in Team Fortress 2 (not to say that the lag time only applies to that, I've had problems with Half Life 2, Bioshock, and Crysis (but hey, the latter's to be expected) and considering that my old 256 MB X800 Pro ran HL2 on high with no problems, I'm pretty much ready to get ATI and its associates the middle finger. But since I've already jumped into water while blind once, I'd rather get heads up before deciding on trying to see if I can return this card and get a decent one from nVidia.

So I ask you, people of DriversHeaven, is nVidia's AGP better than ATI? I don't care if I have to go back to 256 MB, or if the card can't handle DirectX 10 since I won't be upgrade to Vista even when making the new computer. I just want to be able to run my games as silky smooth as I used to be able to do only half a year ago. I could understand Crysis running so slow, and even Bioshock to a degree, but really, when the card can't pull off low graphics with a three or four year old engine, I think it's time to give it the boot.
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Old Jan 3, 2008, 03:09 AM   #2
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Greetings and welcome to DriverHeaven!

But, before we proceed, why dump on us here at DH? I know you're frustrated, but, please, do your unloading on the ones responsible, not on the ones who are here to help.

First of all, you have not posted any details about your system: CPU, Motherboard, RAM, and the only thing we know about...so far....is that it's an AGP system and you're using Media Center PC.

We need much more information before taking any stabs in the dark to try to help out.

And, just in case it helps, we need to know if you've installed the latest Omegadrivers that include the 'older' AGP file that is 'suppose' to make AGP work.

Once we get the additional information, perhaps then we can help.
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Old Jan 4, 2008, 07:50 PM   #3
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why'd you ditch the x800, or did it fail?

for me, i'm on CRTs, so i play at 1024 rez, & i'm almost always cpu limited

the only mindblowing agp card that i'd bother getting is 3850, but i'd have to have a decent cpu to match
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I bought a HIS HD 2600 XT from Newegg before the holidays and ever since then, it's only given me a headache. I've tried several different drivers (including Omegadrivers) and either I get BSOD with a page in nonpage area error, or horrible FPS (to the point where I don't even need a FPS to tell it's running in the teens at the most) and reading up on things, all I know is that I can't hope for the best because ATI has long since gave AGP users the boot.
I have a 2600XT but it’s PCIe and it been far greater then I expected even with my new 22” monitor all games at 1680x1050. No driver issues… I’m thinking you have other issues going on in side your system.

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My whole experience about this has me doing the same with them, except I won't be building a new rig until I'm preparing for college, so for now I'm making due with the old faithful HP Media Center PC I have now.
Well you work man? Use tax time to upgrade… like I do…

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I'm especially pissed because I still had the laggy FPS even after setting everything to low in Team Fortress 2 (not to say that the lag time only applies to that, I've had problems with Half Life 2, Bioshock, and Crysis (but hey, the latter's to be expected) and considering that my old 256 MB X800 Pro ran HL2 on high with no problems, I'm pretty much ready to get ATI and its associates the middle finger. But since I've already jumped into water while blind once, I'd rather get heads up before deciding on trying to see if I can return this card and get a decent one from nVidia.
Dude please doesn’t tell your looking at fps in a multi player game? Because your internet connection and settings has EVERYTHING to do with your multiplayer FPS. see: What you need to know about Frame Rates and Online Gaming . Not only yours but, their severs, and every single person connected to the sever, even net traffic effect YOUR PLAY. Valve games are a prime example of poor network coding…. (Unless you and everyone and the sever are on a 10/100 network in the same building)

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So I ask you, people of DriversHeaven, is nVidia's AGP better than ATI? I don't care if I have to go back to 256 MB, or if the card can't handle DirectX 10 since I won't be upgrade to Vista even when making the new computer. I just want to be able to run my games as silky smooth as I used to be able to do only half a year ago. I could understand Crysis running so slow, and even Bioshock to a degree, but really, when the card can't pull off low graphics with a three or four year old engine, I think it's time to give it the boot.
Crysis runs good on my machine but then again I have a much faster machine
I’m betting. So its not just you graphics card what are you system specs????
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Old Feb 4, 2008, 01:16 PM   #5
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...for now I'm making due with the old faithful HP Media Center PC I have now.

I'm especially pissed because I still had the laggy FPS even after setting everything to low in Team Fortress 2...
I'm not surprised. This is what happens when you try and upgrade OEM machines, and that goes doubly for older OEM machines.
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