Radeon HD 2600 Pro Direct3D issues

RealityRipple · Nov 13, 2007, 06:20 PM

I recently (yesterday) got a VisionTek Radeon HD 2600 Pro to replace my old Radeon 9550 (the fan died and it was starting to overheat and screw up on me). I tried installing Omega's most recent drivers, but it failed to apply the drivers, so I tried the default drivers. Those worked, except Direct3D failed to initialize. After a bit of messing about, I manually installed the Omega drivers for a Radeon HD 2600 Pro, and Direct3D started working.

However, "working" is used lightly. It would appear that it doesn't refresh textures correctly, and I don't know what to do. I've tried changing settings and reinstalling drivers to no avail. Here's some screenshots from WoW for you to see what I mean.

How can I fix this and get this otherwise amazing card to play nice with DirectX? (OpenGL works like a dream, btw!)

Dyre Straits · Nov 14, 2007, 12:35 AM

Greetings and welcome to DriverHeaven!

First off, I really wish you'd gone ahead and picked up the VisionTek HD2600 XT. I got one two weeks ago and am very pleased with it. It's got 512 MB of DDR3 RAM on it. So far, everything I've thrown at it is working quite to my satisfaction.

But, to your problem: What Power Supply are you using and what is its +12V Amp rating?

Next: Have you checked the ASUS website for the latest motherboard BIOS, Chipset, and Device Drivers? Do so ASAP.

And, then be sure to check the Microsoft website for the November, 2007 release of DirectX update. It should update your installation and, perhaps, fix any leftover problems.

Good luck!

RealityRipple · Nov 14, 2007, 12:52 AM

The XT is a bit out of my budget range (I didn't even want to upgrade yet, except that I was having hardware problems... I'm planning on upgrading everything else in a year or two anyway.)

My power supply is in my specs... 520 Watt Apevia. The +12V is running at 12.416 volts and has a 35 amp rating... The rest of its info can be found here.
My BIOS is the most recent possible (14 beta 2), and everything else is 100% up to date. I make damn sure of that as often as possible.
I have the June 2007's DirectX Update, I'll see if November's does any better.

Edit: Nope. Standard drivers still don't support Direct3D and Omega still glitches terribly. No change at all with November Release.

Dyre Straits · Nov 14, 2007, 02:06 AM

Yeah, I was just double checking on the PSU. If anyone else is like I am, I often neglect to update my profile for a while after an upgrade.

I'm not sure what you had to give for your Pro version, but, I got my XT model at Fry's just two weeks ago hot off the shelf for $174.99 plus a $30 mail in rebate. So, my final cost will come to $144.99 plus the taxes on the off the shelf price.

Not bad, huh?

Once you get DX updated, we'll see how it goes and then, if problems persist, we'll go from there.

RealityRipple · Nov 14, 2007, 02:14 AM

$130 from newegg. It's $160 or so for the XT there. I already added an edit to my previous post. DirectX update did nothing.

Edit: On a whim, I looked through CX2K_RAD_OMEGA.inf and discovered it had the Radeon HD 2600 Pro Device ID as 9589. I'm guessing this is for the PCIe version, because mine's AGP and its 9587. This would explain why the drivers didn't install automatically, and may also explain the Direct3D glitching. It doesn't explain why ATI and VisionTek drivers don't work at all, though.

I guess I should have mentioned it's AGP. It would appear everyone with an AGP HD is having Direct3D issues with Catalyst 7.8 and up. Is it worth hoping for a fix, or should I send my card back and get a different one?

Dyre Straits · Nov 14, 2007, 05:57 AM

It's very, very likely your problem is due to the AGP version of the card. If you let Omegadrive know the exact Hardware ID of your card, he's promised to make sure it's included in the next release.

Good luck!

RealityRipple · Nov 14, 2007, 06:07 AM

I'm guessing that's something along the lines of:

Code:

"VisionTek Radeon HD 2600 Pro AGP" = ati2mtag_RV630, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9587&SUBSYS_00281545

?

I'm in the middle of downloading Catalyst 7.8 to see if I can get it to work on my own...

Edit: 7.8 looked worse than Omega did, but at least it showed up at all. Time to try 7.7....
Edit #2: Quality's just getting worse and worse as I lower the versions. I guess I'll just go back to Omega 421 and hope for an update soon...

RealityRipple · Nov 15, 2007, 07:37 PM

The Omega drivers don't seem to be recognizing my video card is AGP. I select AGP on install, but it doesn't let me use SmartGart (Advanced SmartGart Options won't open and it's not listed in the tabs in the Advanced Display properties. Is there any way I can force it to recognize my card is AGP?

Dyre Straits · Nov 16, 2007, 07:04 AM

You may need to reinstall the motherboard/chipset drivers to get the AGP system back 'online'. Sometimes things can get broken after making so many changes.

Good luck!

RealityRipple · Nov 16, 2007, 04:08 PM

Already tried that... It ended up making the graphics look even worse, and it still doesn't recognize it's AGP. And just for refrence, it hasn't given me AGP options on the new card ever...

YouIdiot · Nov 19, 2007, 12:21 AM

I may seem to be a bit slow on this, but have you attempted rolling back your drivers, removing the drivers completely to have a generic VGA display, then installing the latest drivers?
This worked for me on my old system. Admittedly SmartGart always had glitches with my mobo, but my Direct3D started working again.

Also, have you checked your BIOS for AGP support? I'm thinking that the newer the BIOS version, the less likely it is to have comprehensive AGP support...

Dyre Straits · Nov 19, 2007, 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YouIdiot

I may seem to be a bit slow on this, but have you attempted rolling back your drivers, removing the drivers completely to have a generic VGA display, then installing the latest drivers?
This worked for me on my old system. Admittedly SmartGart always had glitches with my mobo, but my Direct3D started working again.

Also, have you checked your BIOS for AGP support? I'm thinking that the newer the BIOS version, the less likely it is to have comprehensive AGP support...

I'm not sure I agree with that. If the motherboard has an AGP slot, the manufacturer had better be supporting it.

The rest of this may be a very good suggestion. Uninstall all the drivers, run CCleaner's Registry cleaner, and start from scratch. Be sure to reboot after doing all the uninstalling.

RealityRipple · Nov 19, 2007, 04:31 AM

Already done both repeatedly. Nothing, and I do mean nothing, makes Direct3D work with this card.

Dyre Straits · Nov 19, 2007, 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealityRipple

Already done both repeatedly. Nothing, and I do mean nothing, makes Direct3D work with this card.

Do you have access to another PC where you can at least try this card out temporarily? If nothing else, take the card to the shop where you got it and see if they'll at least test it out for you.

Since this card is a fairly recently released product, I can't imagine going all the way back to the CAT 6.x's would do any good, either. But, if it were mine, I just might try them out to make sure.

If the card does work right in another PC system, at least you know it's narrowed down to something re: your motherboard's ability to support AGP.

Good luck!

RealityRipple · Nov 19, 2007, 07:24 AM

Don't have any other computers with AGP ports, unfortunately. And I got the card off Newegg, so there's no shop. I'm going to reformat later on, maybe that'll clear out old issues a bit. We'll see.

Dyre Straits · Nov 19, 2007, 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealityRipple

Don't have any other computers with AGP ports, unfortunately. And I got the card off Newegg, so there's no shop. I'm going to reformat later on, maybe that'll clear out old issues a bit. We'll see.

When you do the reformat and new installation of Windows, be sure to let Windows install the 'native' drivers for the card. Then follow-up with the motherboard/chipset drivers and then try the ATI drivers.

Good luck! (Fingers crossed.)

RealityRipple · Nov 19, 2007, 09:50 AM

Nope. I'm just gonna send it back, get a refund, use my old card carefully enough so it doesn't overheat, save up a bit more, wait for the new quad core AMDs to come out and drop in price, and upgrade everything at once in a half a year or so.

StuBalls · Feb 9, 2008, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealityRipple

I recently (yesterday) got a VisionTek Radeon HD 2600 Pro to replace my old Radeon 9550 (the fan died and it was starting to overheat and screw up on me). I tried installing Omega's most recent drivers, but it failed to apply the drivers, so I tried the default drivers. Those worked, except Direct3D failed to initialize. After a bit of messing about, I manually installed the Omega drivers for a Radeon HD 2600 Pro, and Direct3D started working.

However, "working" is used lightly. It would appear that it doesn't refresh textures correctly, and I don't know what to do. I've tried changing settings and reinstalling drivers to no avail. Here's some screenshots from WoW for you to see what I mean.

How can I fix this and get this otherwise amazing card to play nice with DirectX? (OpenGL works like a dream, btw!)

I have exactly the same problem as you. I just bought a sapphire radeon HD 2600 PRO for my Asus A7V8X-X so that I could play WOW through my AGP slot, and it was all messed up. I tried updating the VIA chipset and all the drivers I could think of and nothing worked. Did you find a resolution to this problem, or should I go look for a good AGP NVidia card?

Thanks for any advice to this pain in the ass problem.

Stu

RealityRipple · Feb 9, 2008, 03:01 PM

I never found a solution. I sent back the card and am still using my old 9550. Sorry.

H82LUZ · Feb 12, 2008, 02:34 AM

sapphire has a 3850 agp card in the works........I still can not figure out why you guys have so much trouble with new drivers on AGP I have 3 ATI cards ,9600xt,X800Pro and X850xtpe in three computers and they all work with the new drivers.It could be a simple BIOS setting like fast writes disable ... or disable sideband addressing.

omgpudding · Mar 14, 2008, 04:06 PM

Im having problems with this video card as well i replaced my ati radeon 9550 with it. The drivers arent working correctly and it crashes after I run world of warcraft for around 3 minutes anyone got any ideas?

Nov 13, 2007, 06:20 PM	#1
RealityRipple 0 = 0 == 1 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Los Berros Canyon, Nipomo, CA Posts: 155 Rep Power: 14 System Specs	Radeon HD 2600 Pro Direct3D issues I recently (yesterday) got a VisionTek Radeon HD 2600 Pro to replace my old Radeon 9550 (the fan died and it was starting to overheat and screw up on me). I tried installing Omega's most recent drivers, but it failed to apply the drivers, so I tried the default drivers. Those worked, except Direct3D failed to initialize. After a bit of messing about, I manually installed the Omega drivers for a Radeon HD 2600 Pro, and Direct3D started working. However, "working" is used lightly. It would appear that it doesn't refresh textures correctly, and I don't know what to do. I've tried changing settings and reinstalling drivers to no avail. Here's some screenshots from WoW for you to see what I mean. How can I fix this and get this otherwise amazing card to play nice with DirectX? (OpenGL works like a dream, btw!)

Nov 14, 2007, 12:52 AM	#3
RealityRipple 0 = 0 == 1 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Los Berros Canyon, Nipomo, CA Posts: 155 Rep Power: 14 System Specs	The XT is a bit out of my budget range (I didn't even want to upgrade yet, except that I was having hardware problems... I'm planning on upgrading everything else in a year or two anyway.) My power supply is in my specs... 520 Watt Apevia. The +12V is running at 12.416 volts and has a 35 amp rating... The rest of its info can be found here. My BIOS is the most recent possible (14 beta 2), and everything else is 100% up to date. I make damn sure of that as often as possible. I have the June 2007's DirectX Update, I'll see if November's does any better. Edit: Nope. Standard drivers still don't support Direct3D and Omega still glitches terribly. No change at all with November Release. __________________ Last edited by RealityRipple; Nov 14, 2007 at 02:02 AM.

Nov 14, 2007, 02:14 AM	#5
RealityRipple 0 = 0 == 1 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Los Berros Canyon, Nipomo, CA Posts: 155 Rep Power: 14 System Specs	$130 from newegg. It's $160 or so for the XT there. I already added an edit to my previous post. DirectX update did nothing. Edit: On a whim, I looked through CX2K_RAD_OMEGA.inf and discovered it had the Radeon HD 2600 Pro Device ID as 9589. I'm guessing this is for the PCIe version, because mine's AGP and its 9587. This would explain why the drivers didn't install automatically, and may also explain the Direct3D glitching. It doesn't explain why ATI and VisionTek drivers don't work at all, though. I guess I should have mentioned it's AGP. It would appear everyone with an AGP HD is having Direct3D issues with Catalyst 7.8 and up. Is it worth hoping for a fix, or should I send my card back and get a different one? __________________ Last edited by RealityRipple; Nov 14, 2007 at 04:32 AM.

Nov 14, 2007, 06:07 AM	#7
RealityRipple 0 = 0 == 1 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Los Berros Canyon, Nipomo, CA Posts: 155 Rep Power: 14 System Specs	I'm guessing that's something along the lines of: Code: "VisionTek Radeon HD 2600 Pro AGP" = ati2mtag_RV630, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9587&SUBSYS_00281545 ? I'm in the middle of downloading Catalyst 7.8 to see if I can get it to work on my own... Edit: 7.8 looked worse than Omega did, but at least it showed up at all. Time to try 7.7.... Edit #2: Quality's just getting worse and worse as I lower the versions. I guess I'll just go back to Omega 421 and hope for an update soon... __________________ Last edited by RealityRipple; Nov 14, 2007 at 06:51 AM.

Nov 15, 2007, 07:37 PM	#8
RealityRipple 0 = 0 == 1 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Los Berros Canyon, Nipomo, CA Posts: 155 Rep Power: 14 System Specs	The Omega drivers don't seem to be recognizing my video card is AGP. I select AGP on install, but it doesn't let me use SmartGart (Advanced SmartGart Options won't open and it's not listed in the tabs in the Advanced Display properties. Is there any way I can force it to recognize my card is AGP? __________________

Nov 16, 2007, 04:08 PM	#10
RealityRipple 0 = 0 == 1 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Los Berros Canyon, Nipomo, CA Posts: 155 Rep Power: 14 System Specs	Already tried that... It ended up making the graphics look even worse, and it still doesn't recognize it's AGP. And just for refrence, it hasn't given me AGP options on the new card ever... __________________

Nov 19, 2007, 12:21 AM	#11
YouIdiot DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Tasmania, Australia Posts: 11 Rep Power: 0	I may seem to be a bit slow on this, but have you attempted rolling back your drivers, removing the drivers completely to have a generic VGA display, then installing the latest drivers? This worked for me on my old system. Admittedly SmartGart always had glitches with my mobo, but my Direct3D started working again. Also, have you checked your BIOS for AGP support? I'm thinking that the newer the BIOS version, the less likely it is to have comprehensive AGP support... __________________ What's the magic word? Gimmeee!

Nov 19, 2007, 04:31 AM	#13
RealityRipple 0 = 0 == 1 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Los Berros Canyon, Nipomo, CA Posts: 155 Rep Power: 14 System Specs	Already done both repeatedly. Nothing, and I do mean nothing, makes Direct3D work with this card. __________________

Nov 19, 2007, 07:24 AM	#15
RealityRipple 0 = 0 == 1 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Los Berros Canyon, Nipomo, CA Posts: 155 Rep Power: 14 System Specs	Don't have any other computers with AGP ports, unfortunately. And I got the card off Newegg, so there's no shop. I'm going to reformat later on, maybe that'll clear out old issues a bit. We'll see. __________________

Nov 19, 2007, 09:50 AM	#17
RealityRipple 0 = 0 == 1 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Los Berros Canyon, Nipomo, CA Posts: 155 Rep Power: 14 System Specs	Nope. I'm just gonna send it back, get a refund, use my old card carefully enough so it doesn't overheat, save up a bit more, wait for the new quad core AMDs to come out and drop in price, and upgrade everything at once in a half a year or so. __________________

Feb 9, 2008, 03:01 PM	#19
RealityRipple 0 = 0 == 1 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Los Berros Canyon, Nipomo, CA Posts: 155 Rep Power: 14 System Specs	I never found a solution. I sent back the card and am still using my old 9550. Sorry. __________________

Feb 12, 2008, 02:34 AM	#20
H82LUZ DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Cobourg ,Ontario ,Canada Posts: 94 Rep Power: 38 System Specs	sapphire has a 3850 agp card in the works........I still can not figure out why you guys have so much trouble with new drivers on AGP I have 3 ATI cards ,9600xt,X800Pro and X850xtpe in three computers and they all work with the new drivers.It could be a simple BIOS setting like fast writes disable ... or disable sideband addressing. __________________

Mar 14, 2008, 04:06 PM	#21
omgpudding DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	Im having problems with this video card as well i replaced my ati radeon 9550 with it. The drivers arent working correctly and it crashes after I run world of warcraft for around 3 minutes anyone got any ideas?

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