XTA

hi there. i have a problem

i just bought a sapphire 9600xt and at default clock speed according to the ATI Tray Tools from catalys omegadrivers (based on 6.7) says the following




is my brand new card screwed from the beggining?

i installed it in my comp, use drivercleaner to remove nvidia drivers ( i had a MX4000) installed the ati, and installed 6.8.

then i wanted my good old omegadrivers, same procedure, used DC to remove all ati drivers (the 6.8 i just instaled) and installed 6.7 from omega (rad_w2kxp_omega_38273.exe)

the thing is.. i installed em cuz i saw some texture problem in Lineage2 C4 (sometimes) a small rectangle of the floor or the wall was kinda with funny colors (red.. green etc)

so.. i never got to OC'ed this card inly a bit with the deafauls ati overdrive to 530mhz..

my comp specs are
athlon xp1800+ @ 1917mhz
generic 512x2 ddr1 (not in dual channel since the mobo dont support it)
asus an78x-x
agp fast writes on
and the bios options that omega recommends as far as my mobo supports em



mi card sits idle at 28C ( in my case i have 2 lateral 80mm fan intakes and 1 90mm on the roof outtake)
so..what should i do? are this problem of broken drivers or hardware problems?

tnx in advance.. any help or adviced is welcome


edit 1
i have the option to try to return it and exchange it for another.. but is not going to be an easy task

about the broken texture in L2, it goes away if i do an alt-tab and back to the game

edit2
its the 128mb version

ROBSCIX

Try updating your chipset drivers, verify those speeds are the proper ones maybe your card is overclocked. without you knowing it. Possible tray tools made a mistake..etc..I know the 9600XT's are good for overclocking but your getting artifacts right off the bat...so it may be a damaged card or could possibly be driver problems....

XTA

Clock speeds ares 499.5/297 i never got the chance to overclock it..

chipsert drivers im using 5.10 nforce.. lol i guess cuz i installed the 6.13 WHQL but it seems that old .ddl were left behind.. illtry to remove all of those and use the standard windowsXP ones.. if things go ok, i'll try the 6.13 tnx..

H3X4D3C1M4L

Use the ATI Tool artifact scanner too and make sure no anti aliasing is on or anything. If that's all done and it still artifacts...return it, its a piece of crap

XTA

So.....i just did that..

here it goes..









i guess im screwed? i didnt touch any special tweaks and AA and FSAA is off both d3d and opengl...

here is the log of atitool

try to get it change for another unit?

edit1

could dust cause problems? i have the card for 2 weeks now.. and as i said. i have 2 intake 80mm dan on the side...forgot to mention that they are without any cloth or filter

ROBSCIX

NO, the card is just defective...hey look at it this way, atleast you figured out it had this issue..if you didn't it might have taken awhile but I think it would have got a lot worse..trade it in for a new one. Tell them it has some bad pixels..don't mention anything else...you just want a new model or a different one it's up to you. .good luck with your trade in. POS I would take it back ASAP

nugg0t

Hey guys,

I also have the 9600XT, although I have the 256MB version, not saphire, just ATI Radeon.

I've been looking for the perfect driver set for it. I tried ATI standard, no good- very bad in fact. I've tried ATiExtreme, much better but I still get the looping sound crash in Valve games (like Day of Defeat : Source and HL2). Haven't yet tried Omega drivers though...

Does anyone here have experience with 9600XT 256MB cards and know which is the best set for this card?

H3X4D3C1M4L

Hate to be a downer but was it necessary to crash this guys thread?

XTA

I just returned it.. the salesman said that i should wait 48hs (this is normal here in Argentina adn there's no way around this..) to check the card to see if i didnt "burn" it or it's my comp the problem...he has to be sure that is the card that is defective.,so for the time being im back with my old notsogood but flawless mx4000.

a big TNX to all that helped my out and gave me hints on what to do what to test etc

now i can only wait to get a new one. ill keep u posted

im off to work (running late), cyas

XTA

btw could a low end PSU be the cause of this pixel artifacts? not that i had any BSOD or anything ( game{s} ) crashing

ROBSCIX

I don't think it would do that in this situation. So what does he mean you burned the card? ny overclocking it? you didn't tell him you overclocked it did you?

XTA

About the PSU, i didnt think so either, but never hurts to ask, its a shunshine 350W, and since i dont have stability issues...

Bout the "burn", ill put it in simple words, he has to see it for himself the artifacts and the card looking for mishandling and that the card was "born" witht those artifacts.

cheers

ROBSCIX

I understand now...when are you getting your new one? are you gonna go with the same model? I have a 9600Xt and it works great for me. It's a AIW version but it's still a good card...

XTA

Here in Argentina (this wannabe excuse is looking old, but thats the way things are here) u cant kidna trade a card for another and pay the difference, best case scenario i will get a new card brand/same model

XTA

well.. i got another unit. used Dc to delete the nvidia omega drivers
installed the card
installed oficial 6.8 catalyst
rebooted

and i got this

how can i killmyself? or something..

I de-overclocked my cpu (its a XP1800+ and was running at 1917mhz 1.75v)now its at stock speed and all settings normal (mem including)

and got this..

i dunno what else to do but to cry..

btw P/N is 1024-HC29-1A-SA

with 3.3 hynix memory.. cant find any bios for it..


Graphics Card Manufacturer Powered by ATI
Graphics Chipset RADEON 9600 SERIES
Device ID 4152
Vendor 1002

Subsystem ID 7C29
Subsystem Vendor ID 174B

Bus Type AGP
Current Bus Setting AGP 8X

BIOS Version 008.017D.016.00
BIOS Part Number BK-ATI VER008.017D.016.000
BIOS Date 2004/05/08

Memory Size 128 MB
Memory Type DDR SGRAM / SDRAM

Core Clock in MHz 500 MHz
Memory Clock in MHz 297 MHz

Primary Display Yes

XTA

the memory chips are

HY5DU281622ET-33

H3X4D3C1M4L

Are you SURE you don't have temporal antialiasing on or anything?

XTA

99.9% sure.. in fact i disabled all quality enhancements just to be sure..
AA
FSAA
TAA (temporal, besides, ATiTool shows a warning when temporal AA was enabled)
Antisotropic Filtering
mipmap detail..

the ones that i tried on and off where DXT and geometry instancing, didnt have any change on the artifacts..
now im gonna do a ghost of the OS partition to another partition and do a fresh install
in a couple of hs we'll see what happends..

XTA

Well... i did the clean install. and voilà! no more artifacts and L2 looks great so far, atitool.. cant have it running much time cuz im impatient, slows down my comp like hell and i had to reinstall a bunch of stuff/settings,but so far so good, b4 i had artifacts in less than 30 secs(cometimes almost inmediatly)

temps are a little higher than last time cuz i have my case wide stripped open and not extra cooling right now
today is friday i'll test it throughly

i still cant understand quite well howcome and 8month old install of XP can produce such problems when with the previous card (nvidia MSI MX4000) didnt have those..
maybe broken DX9?
at least now we all now that a "broken" XP can do this with an old high end card

i wanna thank u all and i wish i can give back more help than what i got here

now that im relaxed bout this i wanna say.. i luv u all im not trying t be a suck*as, is just that im very thanklful for all the support that i got

petertr2000

Probably a bit late - but my 9600Pro 256Mb card starts to artifact if I push the memory even 1-2Mhz.

Its shockingly close to its limits.

XTA

What memory chips your card has?

H3X4D3C1M4L

Next time use Linux