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Sep 15, 2005, 04:53 PM
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Whos got the most inputs?
Just wondering who has got 6,8,10,12, more??
I went through many multicard setups trying to 4 and 6 inputs. At one point I had 2 lives hooked to an audigy, but i could never get the the perfomance right. I think all the IRQs got in the way.
Then i was given a Live Drive that came from a SB live package but works fine with my audigy, and then finally figured out how to the line in and mic in on the card to seperate. So now i have mic in L/R, line in L/R, aux line L/R (on live drive) Mic2 in L/R(on live drive with the built in preamp) and the SPDIF In (on the Live drive) which works great with my MAudio Tampa Mic Preamp/compresor.
8 analogs and a SPDIF.
Oh yea and i just loaded 3538i with no problems, (i was worried about the the mic in/line in split, took me forever to get those seperated using those kx command line edits).
Toad
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Sep 16, 2005, 12:41 AM
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Hi!
My setup is:
Audigy 1 SB0090
1 stereo Line-in analog (via UDA-ADC routed with ProFX)
1 stereo Aux-in analog (via AC97)
3 stereo SPIDF in digital (via CD-SPDIF and AUD_EXT Header) coming from external A/D-unit
1 stereo I2S in digital(via AUD_EXT Header) coming from external A/D unit
1 stereo I2S in digital (via AUD_EXT header) coming from A/D unit inside the computer
Summary: 7 stereo inputs, or 14 mono
Additional:
3 stereo out analog (Front/Rear/Center-Sub)
4 stereo SPDIF out digital (for recording with digital external devices)
Summary: 7 stereo outputs, or 14 mono
Greetings,
TravelRec.
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Sep 16, 2005, 06:00 AM
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DH's Latest Mac Convert
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i have 10 mono analogue inputs
3 X Stereo Line In (A2ZS, A1, Onboard)
2 X Aux In (A2ZS, A1)
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Sep 16, 2005, 11:09 AM
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Just an Average Joe...
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Hmm, my ex had quite a few...too many, in fact. That's why I got rid of her!
bu-dum-PAH
rasta
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Sep 16, 2005, 11:29 AM
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I do 6 analog at the moment, not sure that my puter can handle more, though I could squeak out 4 more analog with the Audigy I and Audigy II ZS.
I have a question for dj_stick about a preset you uploaded to the preset site.
http://my.kxproject.lugosoft.com/presets/60.jpg
Judging by the description, this is one of your SEND cards-right? So using a DSP like this, only putting in what you need for the inputs for the SEND cards will result in lower CPU usage-correct?
Thanks,
Doug
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Sep 17, 2005, 07:06 PM
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DH's Latest Mac Convert
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Originally Posted by Doug W
I have a question for dj_stick about a preset you uploaded to the preset site.
http://my.kxproject.lugosoft.com/presets/60.jpg
Judging by the description, this is one of your SEND cards-right? So using a DSP like this, only putting in what you need for the inputs for the SEND cards will result in lower CPU usage-correct?
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i can't comment on CPU usage but i just left as many DSP resources free as possible incase i needed them, DSP synths, other effects etc.
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Sep 17, 2005, 11:41 PM
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Got it.
Doug
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Sep 27, 2005, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by TravelRec.
Audigy 1 SB0090
1 stereo Line-in analog (via UDA-ADC routed with ProFX)
1 stereo Aux-in analog (via AC97)
3 stereo SPIDF in digital (via CD-SPDIF and AUD_EXT Header) coming from external A/D-unit
1 stereo I2S in digital(via AUD_EXT Header) coming from external A/D unit
1 stereo I2S in digital (via AUD_EXT header) coming from A/D unit inside the computer
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TravelRec.
I'm trying to achieve 3 stereo SPDIF in on my Audigy2 zs by faking the liveDrive.
Acording to the AD_EXT connector pinout by Samir I see only 2 potential SPDIF ins... the SPDIF0 in (pin 5) and CD-SPDIF in.
Could you clue me in on your secret?
I assume it has something to do with SPDIF C (Z-video I2s) listed in the prolog on the 'kx IO/DSP Assignments' page, but i don't see it on AD_EXT connector.
I hope that my copy of the AD_EXT pinout reference is up to date.
If anyone else has any input, It would be greatly appreciated.
An extra SPDIF in would greatly improve my configuration.
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Sep 28, 2005, 12:51 AM
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The secret is: I have the Audigy 1 card (SB0090), it has 2 SPIDF inputs working on AUD_EXT and 1 CD-SPDIF input. This is not with Audigy2 cards due to a different AD_EXT connector. Iīm nearly sure, the custom chip on Audigy2 has the 3rd input anywhere, but itīs not routed to the connector. This is the main reason why I keep my good old card - it has the most possible number of in/out connections.
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Sep 28, 2005, 03:42 AM
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DH's Latest Mac Convert
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If i slave my A2ZS to my A-ES i can use it's pair of inputs, aswell as the input from my onboard sound - total of 5 stereo inputs - not bad considering the only "modding" i've done is wiring them together and added jacks to the AUX_IN headers
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Sep 28, 2005, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by TravelRec.
The secret is: I have the Audigy 1 card (SB0090),
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Damn You and your magical ways...
My hope was to pull another analog from a slave card and pass it digital to the host card.
If I had your mad skills I would fashion some sort of electrical whjachamahici to make use of the i2s (Aux2 and LineIn2).
Without a liveDrive or any external ADCs or DACs, here are my possible ins and outs..
Let me know if you see more potential than what I've milked out of it.
I have 3 Audigy2 zs cards (should have stuck with Audigy 1?)
I name them Host, Slave 1 (S1), Slave 2 (S2)
Analog Ins:
- 1 Stereo LineIn(AC97-2) -- (Onboard Host)
- 1 Stereo LineIn(AC97-2) -- (Onboard S1 passed to Host SPDIF0in)
- 1 Stereo LineIn(AC97-2) -- (Onboard S2 passed to Host CD-SPDIFin)
- 1 Stereo Aux(AC97) ------- (Onboard Host)
Analog Outs:
- 4 Stereo (Onboard Host)
- 2 Stereo (Onboard S1 passed from Host SPDIF0/1)
- 2 Stereo (Onboard S2 passed from Host SPDIF2/3)
That's total 8 mono in 16 mono out
If I could make use of 2 i2s inputs(Aux2, Lin2) on Host I would have 12 mono in.
Right now everything is direct jumped from card to card, but I plan to add a jack panel to the front of my box with all possible ins/outs from all 3 cards. Then just jump them external with patchcords to have a wider range of configs. i.e.- swap some analog in/out for dig in/out.
Thanks for the info guys... I was afraid it WAS that simple.(hardware limitation)
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Sep 29, 2005, 12:44 AM
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Nice setup BTW, so you donīt have any problems with driver coexistence between your MoBo-sound-system and 3x kX? How you have installed all the cards?
If you can get a used Audigy1 you could add the thing as master input card for ASIO and then chain all together, but you will need a lot of wires  .
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Sep 29, 2005, 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by TravelRec.
but you will need a lot of wires  .
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haha a lot of wires -> i'll post a pic soon of the wires between my soundcards
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Sep 29, 2005, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by TravelRec.
Nice setup BTW, so you donīt have any problems with driver coexistence between your MoBo-sound-system and 3x kX?
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Thanks TravelRec, Need an apprentice?
No, I don't have motherboard sound... Maybe I misused word "onboard". what I meant was 'Physically located on the _____ soundcard'
The Only problem I had with setting up 3 cards was initial IRQ issues, but I managed to untangle that problem.
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Originally Posted by TravelRec.
How you have installed all the cards?
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Every card is using 3538i. DSP of slaves are routed direct (ac97.2 input straight to dig out to Host soundcard. Same with their outs (straight from dig in to analog out). I can put effects into these slave channels also and my guess is that would be better than applying them in the host DSP before passing them digitally, because it would divide up some of the processor workload?
People talk of difficulty splitting the ac97 ins even when using 3538i, but i didn't even need to use command line edits (just had to click the right Mixer buttons)
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Originally Posted by TravelRec.
If you can get a used Audigy1 you could add the thing as master input card for ASIO and then chain all together, but you will need a lot of wires  .
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I was thinking of that possibility... I do have an Audigy1 layin in my parts bin. I decided against it because there would be a trade-off to the advantage of having another input... I would lose a stereo out. Because my main focus is getting maximum outs, I decided against the audigy1 host setup.
I already have lots of wires though, i view that as a good thing. I found that the best and cheapest way to jump the cards was to rip the connectors off of a 40 pin IDE cable and just solder and heat shrink my shielded audio cable to them. These connectors fit perfectly to the AD_EXT pins and makes for a neatly bundled jumper cable. Though my ideal setup would be to jack patch from the front of the box for more flexibility.
I'll take pictures after I complete my next phase. Also scan in my schematics for anyone who might want to do something similar.
Something else I found that helped to relieve some floor noise in my inputs was to slide a shield between all of my cards with some aluminum window screen sealed in laminate to keep from shorting on the cards. Anyone else have some noise lowering tips?
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Sep 30, 2005, 12:45 AM
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Iīm really looking forward to see the pictures  And like I said before: cool setup!
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Oct 20, 2005, 02:31 AM
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I have this setup:
Audigy 1, kx 3538i
2 x stereo from line 2/mic 2 on Live Drive
2 x stereo from Tascam US-224 connected to coaxial S-PDIF on Live Drive
2 x stereo from Aux In on Live Drive
2 x stereo inputs from MOTU 2408 connected to optical S-PDIP on Live Drive
2 x stereo from Line In on Audigy card
3 x stereo FX using ProFX Src
Using Nuendo 3 that 16 mono inputs (actually a lot more than that considering the MOTU has 8 mono inputs and the Tascam has 4)
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