Help with sb platinum live + live drive

cpharding

I got this the sb platinum live 5.1 off my dad, as i want to do some multitrack recording using it. The only problem is i can't get it to work.

The card adn drive appear to work fine, except i can't seem to get any input at all.

according to the actualy hardware

The live drive is model number: sb0010

The pci card number: can't tell atm, if its really needed i'll get the card out and see but as its in ashuttle, i can't see the number easilly. for some reaeson sb0060 springs to mind, but i may be wrong.

I'm using adobe audition 2.0

I think for some reason the driver thinks the inputs are outputs, beacuse when i plug a mic into "mic in 2" on the livedrive, i can hear a pop, like when you plug speakers into speaker ports.

Thanks for your help in advance

Cheers
Chris

Russ

For MME recording:
Unmute the Line2/Mic2 slider on the Recording page of kxmixer and adjust the level as desired.

For ASIO Recording:
Unmute the Line2/Mic2 slider on the Ins and Outs page of kxmixer and adjust the level as desired. Connect the Line2/Mic2 pins of prolog (in the DSP), to the the ASIO pins on epilog that you want to use for recording (I would start with ASIO 4/5, as ASIO 1/2 are not available with 5.1 models). Search the forum for info about the ASIO Mapping Issue.

cpharding

Thanks- i've figured out the mapping issue now, but even with the pins on the prolog going straight to the working asio pins... i'm not getting any reading in Audition, whereas using the wave generator i do. I'm kinda stumped how to fix it

Russ

Use a peak plugin in the DSP to verify that you are getting a signal out of prolog.

cpharding

Thanks for your fast response!

i'm not getting a singal out of prolog no, what can be done to fix this?

Cheers
Chris

Maddogg6

You did this and nothing comes out of Prolog?
Make sure you are supplying input and, is to the one that matches kX labels correctly.

Maddogg6

btw: Make sure that the jumper is correct - depending on if you are trying to use a dynamic mic or a condenser mic - look that up in the online PDF at CL website. The jumper shouldn't matter if using LINE mode.

cpharding

hmmm.... put a peak on every output on prolog and opened tehm all up, i'm getting a signal on AC97, but that is it, and that is there even without my input( Mp3 player) pluged in, i have tried hte mp3 player in every socket on the card and the live drive, nothing on the peak meters


edit: tried again, when i plug it into the pink socket AC97 peaks....
Cheers Chris

Russ

When using the AC97 sockets, you need to select which source to use on the AC97 page of kxmixer (the AC97 Source selection combo-box). If you get a signal when connected to the pink socket, the AC97 source is probably set to MIC (for the blue socket, change it to Line In).

However, the LiveDrive inputs should work, as long as the Line2/Mic2 slider on the Ins and Outs page of kxmixer is not muted, and the volume is set to an audible level. So, as Maddogg6 stated, verify any jumper settings, and the connections from the LiveDrive to the sound card (I do not have a LiveDrive so I cannot offer much help with that), and verify that any knobs on the LiveDrive are set properly, for whichever input you are trying to use, etc.

cpharding

Thanks, i've got everything up full in the mixer, but for some reason it seems to reset every now and again. Nothing is muted, i'll check the jumper settings tomorrow evening , as its getting late and i disection 2moz during the day, i'll also replug the connections. Thanks for your help

Cheers
Chris

cpharding

the only things online i can find about jumper settings arn't for my version of livedrive, mine is the ir version (model number sb0010), i'm removed the card entirely and reconnected it but still no joy.

I've checked i'm getting power ot the livedrive using a multimeter, and i'm getting 5v and 12v fine.

I've run out of idea's on how to fix this now.

any help wud be massivly aprechiated

cheers

Chris

Maddogg6

In my Livedrive (its a LiveDriveII btw) - theres only 1 jumper - and its either ON or OFF - depending if you intend to use a dynamic or condenser microphone.


For 'line in' Mode (Turn pot clicked 'OFF') - this jumper shouldn't make any difference.

If you can, try use AUX 2 input instead - the RCA jacks - and eliminate any settings for Line 2/Mic 2 for your problem.
Use the 'AUX 2' level/sliders and mute on the KX Mixer 'Ins & Outs' page instead of 'LINE 2' And check for level out of prolog.

Do LiveDrive headphone outputs work?
Is ANY thing working associated with the live drive (IR remote, SPDIF in/out etc..)

What did you base this opinion on - no blue screen errors? - no device conflicts in device manager? - kX Wave devices show up in audio device lists?
Windows sounds works?

Somethings not making sense here... if it 'works' and the LD is detected in your 'about' screen (good idea to post that info btw) - then you should have seen levels on prolog when you unmute and adjust levels on those inputs on kX mixer 'Ins & Outs Page'.

Is the cable your using known to be correct and functional?
Is the device supplying signal (MP3 player??) known to be functional?

cpharding

on my livedrive there are 4 differnt sets of jumpers. but i can't find any documentation on which does what, so i've left them as they were.

i've been trying both the line in2 on the live drive the microphone, adn teh aux as well, but no luck with any of them

I don't have the remote as it is still at my dad's somewhere( he lost it) so i can't check that, and i don't have any SPDIF cables...

For the record, i don't know if this changes anything, but i still have my onboard sound enabled.

The headphone socket works if i'm putting audio in through a line in on the back sockets, but i've changed the DSP now to try and get ASIO working, i'm not too concerned with any output from the card, as its not my primary.

I have been able to play music through it though, so i do know the outputs work.

The MP3 player is definatly working, and when plugged into the same device that AC97 is set to record, i get a change on the AC97 output.

Kx wave does show up in audio lists, yes, i've had no blue screens.

here is the stuff under about...

----Hardware / Software configuration---------------
Driver Name:kX Audio Driver (Debug)
Driver Date: Aug 18 2003 18:56:52
Driver Version: 5.10.00.3534 - debug
DB Name:LiveBay2
SB0060 5.1 [a400]
PCI Information:
Device: 21102 Subsys: 80611102 ChipRev: 7
Card has MPU device
Card model is '5.1'
Card HAS AC97 codec
Codec name: SigmaTel STAC9708
3D Extension: SigmaTel 3D Enhancement
Codec is 2.0 compliant
Capabilities[6940] :
DAC resolutions : -16-bit- -18-bit-
ADC resolutions : -16-bit- -18-bit-
Ext Capabilities [80]: -PCM surround DAC-
Port: a400 Irq: 9
Playback buffer: 20a0
Record buffer: 4000
Number of AC3 buffers: 4
Tank memory: 256 kb
GSIF buffer: 256 samples
OS version: [2 5 1 Service Pack 2; 2 5 1 Service Pack 2; 156 148]

Maddogg6

Hmm, both mine and yours show up as 'LiveBay2' but I only have 1, labeled 'JP1' - there are other connectors on the board that may be mistaken as 'jumpers' but are not jumpers at all.
Reguardless - if AUX2 isnt working either - Im lost if your SURE you unmute and adjusted ALL INPUTS levels on the kxMixer Ins and Outs page - and nothing comes out of prolog except AC97... ??

I guess use AC97 input seeing as it is working... ??
Good luck

Maddogg6

Heres some info on your livedrive SB0010
http://www.dslreports.com/speak/slid...gwMjQ5Nw%3D%3D
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15802497
http://forums.creative.com/creativel...=637305#M58993

It at least says what 'factory' default settings are.. ?? no info on what they do tho.

cpharding

here is a screenshot of my in outs page
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7600166@N08/436794757/

i might just end up using several computers to record at this rate,

Thanks for all your help

Chris

cpharding

those helped thanks, my jumpers are the same as the ones listed there, there is no mention of jumper 8 on those though, the header isn't actually on the boards in the pictures.. hmm stranger and stranger, because i have a jumper 8, a three pin header between 9 and 7

Cheers Chris

Russ

Yours might not match the one in the picture exactly, as that one is the Audigy version.

Yours appears to be the LiveDrive3. I recall someone else having a similar problem with the SB Live! Platinum 5.1, so I wonder if this drivebay is not fully supported by kX (or maybe it is mis-detected or something).

i.e.
sigh..headaches/ line2 livedrive


You might try contacting Eugene to verify if it is supported by kX, etc.

BTW: Did you ever try it with the Creative Labs driver?

cpharding

Thanks, i did muck around with the creative driver, but when i realised i couldn't multitrack record i started looking for an alternative, and found this, so i didn't have time to fully test the card before i uninstalled the creative driver, i might try putting it back on temporelly.

I'll drop Eugene an email, thanks
EDIT- do i just use the contact link in the menu on the kX page? or is there another email adress somewhere for him? thanks

Cheers
Chris

Russ

It would be good if you could verify whether or not it does work (with the CL driver or whatever).

Yes, that is the link that you should use.