Mac OSX - best operating system?

***Zardon*** · Apr 14, 2007, 07:45 PM

Discuss !

**dj_stick** · Apr 14, 2007, 10:23 PM

i've used it more and more over the last couple of years at school, but i find it a little "bland" and basic for my liking, some of the interface/shortcut differences between os x and windows really frustrate me at times, but it's usable

i still prefer windows though

Necrosis · Apr 14, 2007, 10:30 PM

Plus after using Linux for awhile, especially any of the neat 3D packages it's sorta like been there done that.

Vampyromaniac · Apr 14, 2007, 11:02 PM

It's definitely a good mature modern OS, thankfully much better than the old architecture. I wouldn't say there is a "best" OS, they all have their share of flaws. But overall I prefer Windows XP or Vista.

Lowfat · Apr 15, 2007, 10:21 AM

10.4 is a great OS, for web browsing & multitasking I love it. Expose is definately better tha Flip3D and Daskboard is a lot better than SideBar.

Gardinen · Apr 17, 2007, 05:21 PM

Nah....Finder ain't my cup of the!

Lowfat · Apr 17, 2007, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gardinen

Nah....Finder ain't my cup of the!

are you french?

~~DudeBoyz~~ · Apr 17, 2007, 07:26 PM

It is a very good, stable Operating System.

However, imo, it is hampered by a lack of configurability, especially in terms of the interface. Finder, in particular, is not a very good introduction to the system.

I use a different app for file management - I prefer the dual-pane stuff like the old Norton Commander interface. It's called muCommander:

http://www.mucommander.com/

It helps take the hassle out of file management and I can avoid Finder about 80% of the time, thankfully.

There are some really good features in OS X, including the built-in partition and drive management, the way it handles disk images in the DMG format (thought I do wish they defaulted to ISO instead), and in particular, it handles Windows Networking very well right out of the box. It activates SAMBA by default and I can find and access Windows shares and printers easily, provided the printers do not have a space in the shared ID name.

I find it to be better than Linux in many areas. I like the System Preferences dialog, which is even easier than the classic Control Panel in Windows, and I like the Software Update feature, which is better than Windows Update.

But the lack of flexibility, especially in terms of configuration of the interface, really does hamper it in my opinion.

Plus, it lacks the huge amount of apps that Windows has. If OS X had that kind of third party application and utility support, I think it could really be a contender.

As it is, I use Windows as my primary OS and will continue to because it's the most productive environment for me. I still use OS X on my Mac, but the PC is where the work gets done.

Tipstaff · Apr 18, 2007, 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DudeBoyz

I use a different app for file management - I prefer the dual-pane stuff like the old Norton Commander interface. It's called muCommander:

http://www.mucommander.com/

It helps take the hassle out of file management and I can avoid Finder about 80% of the time, thankfully.

Dude, I owe you for that one. I've been looking for an app just like this one for a client of mine as this happens to be one of her major complaints. 'Course, I did warn her that she'd have to get used to the way OSX works.. but noooo.. she just wouldn't listen. This should keep her yap shut for a bit...

~~DudeBoyz~~ · Apr 18, 2007, 01:23 AM

Hope it works out. Sorry she's such a pain to deal with. Customer Service can be a hard way to make a living, to be sure.

GutterPunk · Apr 18, 2007, 09:25 AM

games games games games
need i say more?

fobis · May 8, 2007, 10:54 PM

I love Mac OS X 10.4 to death. It's mostly stable and awesome for what I do (including word processing, email, internet, chatting, etc). I also play a few games including Halo, StarCraft, Star Wars: Empire at War, Civ3, Civ4, Tetris Zone, and best of all: Lux Deluxe.
It really is an awesome OS for my purposes, but it's not the BEST OS out there. Windows is definitely not the best, nor is it the worst. There's a large support base for Windows (well-needed at that) and it has a much larger foothold in the gaming industry.
Both Mac and Windows have their ups and downs.
Microsoft has a monopoly on the market and one could potentially say that they force users into using it, blah blah blah.
Apple charges an absurd amount for their hardware and only allow their OS's on their hardware, along with the fact they don't support new hardware nearly as quickly and they overcharge for the latest and greatest, too.
Tons more to list, but why bother?
Bottom line: I feel OS X is a good OS worthy for daily use by anyone.

zaim · May 8, 2007, 11:36 PM

There are a few functions in OSX i really like on the mac notebooks... like when you slide your finger to top right of the glide pad, it shows all windows up on screen in a neat fashion..
and slide to top left, it moves all windows out of the way to show the desktop

that is ALL i like about mac osx. on a notebook.

**dj_stick** · Aug 24, 2007, 07:02 PM

yeah the expose feature is pretty cool, but i usually turn it off, gets in the way sometimes - however the two-finger scrolling on the touchpad is just awesome, i was using a friend's laptop yesterday and decided to test it out - not only does it work vertically, but horizontally aswell!

thunderclap · Aug 24, 2007, 09:15 PM

Where's the Amiga OS?

While I use Mac primarily I do use Vista but only for games. They both have their good things and bad. I have had on RARE occasions an OS crash on the Mac side it has never come near to what I experienced on Windows though.

Tipstaff · Aug 24, 2007, 11:41 PM

This job I was doing for a client was installing a Windows 2003 SBS server, and one of the hurdles I had to overcome was to transfer their data from the old file server they had. The problem? Existing data that was shared by a Mac Pro running OS X 10.4. Suffice it to say, 2 weeks later, I'm starting to like the interface. It was very fast, and very responsive. However, this experience with OS X 10.4 was on a RISC based Mac Pro, and not on an Mactel. The few times I've sold a Mac Book in the last year I was totally unimpressed by it. I've used Celeron based machines more responsive, and faster than on of those things. But this RISC based Mac Pro.... nice machine.

Lowfat · Aug 25, 2007, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tipstaff

This job I was doing for a client was installing a Windows 2003 SBS server, and one of the hurdles I had to overcome was to transfer their data from the old file server they had. The problem? Existing data that was shared by a Mac Pro running OS X 10.4. Suffice it to say, 2 weeks later, I'm starting to like the interface. It was very fast, and very responsive. However, this experience with OS X 10.4 was on a RISC based Mac Pro, and not on an Mactel. The few times I've sold a Mac Book in the last year I was totally unimpressed by it. I've used Celeron based machines more responsive, and faster than on of those things. But this RISC based Mac Pro.... nice machine.

I assume you mean a PowerMac G5 not a Mac Pro correct? As IBM CPUs have never been used in a Mac Pro, they have always had used Intel Xeon. In fact no IBM CPU has been used in 20 months.

Tipstaff · Aug 25, 2007, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lowfat

I assume you mean a PowerMac G5 not a Mac Pro correct? As IBM CPUs have never been used in a Mac Pro, they have always had used Intel Xeon. In fact no IBM CPU has been used in 20 months.

Yep. My bad. It is a PowerMac G5.

mixedupmacandpc · Nov 23, 2007, 02:33 PM

after 20 years on pcs, i actually found a computer that i like to use on a daily basis, and that that's a mbp on a stand with aluminum apple keyboard, wacom tablet/w/mouse, and external samsung syncmaster. of course i have to have a windows server to hold all the data, but osx and the mbp is just elegant and snappy compared to any of the pcs i have, and is the nicest laptop i've used. not sure why folks would buy anything else these days...imac and macpros, very nice.

Wavelabs · Feb 2, 2009, 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fobis

Apple charges an absurd amount for their hardware and only allow their OS's on their hardware, along with the fact they don't support new hardware nearly as quickly and they overcharge for the latest and greatest, too.
Tons more to list, but why bother?
Bottom line: I feel OS X is a good OS worthy for daily use by anyone.

By what I have been hearing for some time now and even read it some where,
but can't seem to find the reputable link anywhere.

It said in the review that SNOW-LEOPARD will support ALL hardware.
including the hardware that PC users are using now.

Reason is, APPLE now wants to actually grab those users that are using
their current hardware to be able to just format wipe clean their OS off and install Mac-OS.
As many window users are complaining about what Microsoft is putting them through.

Like every time they update through updater in windows,
windows becomes useless and people have to reformat and start all over.

also, users are reporting now, that Vista tends to freeze and constantly give them
a (NOT RESPONDING) notifications with no answers on any fix.

Also, people are reporting that the new drivers for AMD Catalist are failing really bad, due to Vista.
People who have 8.1 catalist installed and update to catalist v8.2
their sytem winds up crashing and not seeing the video cards.

And this goes on and on and on and on.
People are pretty much tired of it.

So Apple knows that most people will most likely change to MAC Leopard as their main OS,
because most of their programs also work with MAC_OS.

Specially those who do professional music production and video and audio post production
like myself and millions of other people around the world.

So Apple is trying to grab those people while they can and have them switch over to MAC Snow Leopard.

I know because I am even one of those people too.
I can't take windows anymore.
I have had it and have had enough of Microcrap.

So I am also wanting to use MAX-OS,
because most of my Audio production software can also be installed in MAC
besides windows Platform.

thanks for reading
Wavelabs

Lowfat · Feb 3, 2009, 12:09 AM

Apple will never ever sell an OS that is meant to be installed on non-Mac's legally. They would loose money hand over fist.

**dj_stick** · Feb 3, 2009, 07:14 AM

i think the article meant PPC, as in PowerPC, the G3/4/5 architecture used before th switch to Intel

Wavelabs · Feb 3, 2009, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lowfat

Apple will never ever sell an OS that is meant to be installed on non-Mac's legally. They would loose money hand over fist.

Now how they would lose money ?
There is no way they would lose money. in fact they would make more money.
As I remember and recall, they where even discussing about ( HACKINTOSH )
software that people are using now to use MAC on regular PC hardware parts.
And they wanted to avoid that, and just let people install MAC on regular hardware
that people are currently using for standard PC.
Apple can't stop the entire world from using Hackintosh,
So they minus well just let people install it on PC hardware.

They get to gain PC users to switch over to MAC in a blink of an eye.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dj_stick

i think the article meant PPC, as in PowerPC, the G3/4/5 architecture used before th switch to Intel

No, its actually the regular hardware PC users are using now.
Because they mentions sometig about users SWAPING out Vista for MAC on their current hardware.
I called my friend in California and he said remembers reading the same thing
some where.
Because Apple was upset about people using HACKINTOSH.

I know I saved the link somewhere, I just can't find it in my browsers 3 million saved links.

Also, Apple knows already that many people are not going to spend their money on extremely expensive hardware that they are selling.
people are complaining that their hardware breaks peoples pockets.

The last self configuration I did on Apples website to build a G5 the way I want and would have my G5,
the price shows up as 15 thousand dollars at finished build of the G5 the way I want, on their website.

that is outrageous and immense price for hardware.
its like buying a car. People are pissed off about this and hence now the software
that people are using HACKINTOSH.
now Apple realizes that people would do just about anything to avoid this expensive hardware that Apple is trying to sell.

So making MAC-OSX compatible on all hardware including PC hardware would be beneficial to Apple.
As they would gain PC users to actually make up their mind and switch to MAC platform
and take way Microsofts clientel over night.

There are millions of users using PCs that are tired of these error messages
they get every 5 minutes, including but not limited to frozen pc's and BSOD issues.

And now that Vista has failed miserably, Microsoft is trying to recover with Windows 7.
which is just Vista under different clothing.

Also Apple knows that most softwares out there do have capabilities of dual format MAC/PC.
So making MAC-OSX for PC hardware would be an even easier switch for PC users,
As many of their softwares can be installed into MAC just as easy as PC.

I think I read it on Boy Genius Report website, but im not sure (still hunting)
but I might be wrong about the site.
geez I wish I could find this thing., been hunting for it for several months now.

We will eventually find out when Snow Leopard comes out.
and soon find out the fate of Microsoft.
Apple company corporation hates Microsoft, and I believe that Apple
would make such a move to steal most of Microsoft's users right from under their noses.

I would be the first in line.

thunderclap · Feb 3, 2009, 09:39 AM

Apple is, first and foremost, a hardware vendor. They want to sell their hardware. Their software is designed to get you to buy their computers. Plain and simple. If they opened OS X to PC compatible systems they would lose out on a lot more money. For this reason I don't think they'll ever release a "PC" version of their OS. I'd like them to, but I don't see it happening.

Wavelabs · Feb 3, 2009, 12:23 PM

That is very true.!

But - and their always a but.......lol

At this day in age, things are getting smaller and smaller.
with the world now in its craze for Mini Laptops either PC or MAC.
Examples are: MacBook Air & EEec PC's
I believe most desktops right now are ruled by Windows Users.
Primarily for gaming and home entertainment.

Apple currently is not selling many desktops at this day in age,
but on the PC side of it, they are.
Many Apple users are primarily purchasing laptops.
Example: MacBook Pro.

Apple since is going smaller and smaller each quarter of the season,
I believe they are concentrating on more portable hardware than actual large desktop stuff. - they barely selling any G5's due to how expensive they are, as well as bulky.
MAC users will prefer to actually purchase a Laptop than an extremely expensive G5 Desktop that will break anyones pocket.

Its my prediction and belief that Apple will stop selling G5 eventually and not even
manufacture any new ones like a G6 due to this.

As anyone knows and can already see, they even have a MacBook Air.
Its all about going smaller and gearing away from desktops themselves.
More portability in coming years. ("smaller and faster")
and I believe Apple would sell more MAC-OSX for PC desktop users,
as well as sell them for their hardcore MAC Laptop users. ("MacBook Pro & Air").

As they concentrate more on smaller and innovative inventions of Apple gear.
Such as: iPhone, iTouch, iPOD, MacBook Pro & MacBook Air.

See how everything Apple does gets smaller and smaller.?
It would only be a right decision to sell MAC-OSX to PC users to sell more operating system softwares.
As PC users will not purchase the expensive, pocket breaking G5.

With that said, since most PC users are still hardcore using actual desktops,
I believe the best outcome is for Apple MAC-OSX to actually be installed on PC hardware.
And Apple would concentrate on their Laptops and iPhone and iPods,
and any other great portable innovative devices they will release in coming years.

Thus, give a hard slap in the face to Microsoft.

Think about it for a sec.

Lowfat · Feb 3, 2009, 06:02 PM

I assume by G5 you are referring to the Mac Pro. G5 was a processor. And they quit using it in Jan 2006.

There will be no way that Apple would sell OS X to be installed on non-Mac PC's. Like Thunderclap said, they are a hardware manufacturer that happens to sell/make software to run specifically on this hardware. How many people do you think would buy their computers if OS X would run on a Dell that was cheaper? Significantly less, including me. I love my MBP but I really wouldn't of bought it if I could use OS X on my desktops legally. Plus the reason why OS X runs as well/stable as it does is because the limited amount of chipsets/motherboards/etc that they need to support.

Yes portable computers are the largest part of Apple's computer sales. However they will never ditch the Power Mac lineup. I am pretty sure the majority of the people who purchase their expensive professional software (Logic, Final Cut, etc) use a Mac Pro as their mobile computers are just not powerful enough.

SeraphicSorcerer · Feb 3, 2009, 08:29 PM

Mac OS X is a great OS. Hands down.

**dj_stick** · Feb 3, 2009, 09:22 PM

lol i love when people refer to the powermac/mac pro series as "G5", especially since no mac has used a G5 processor in 2 years, and imacs also used the same processor

and to back lowfat up, i do have a mac pro myself, specifically for Logic. I can use it on my Macbok Air, but I get no where near the same performance

EDIT: the reason why OS X is as great as it is, is because of the intergration with the hardware - start selling OS X for PCs, and you're going to have far more problems with OS X than with Windows (simply because Windows already supports a much wider range of platforms and hardware)

Wavelabs · Feb 4, 2009, 01:46 AM

I was talking about this: http://store.apple.com/us/browse/hom...ro?mco=MTE2NjQ

And thats the reason why people are currently using HACKINTOSH.

Eventually it will force Apple to have MAC-OSX for PC hardwares.
I am hoping it will force them, because myself as well as many others would love to see it happen.

thunderclap · Feb 4, 2009, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lowfat

Yes portable computers are the largest part of Apple's computer sales. However they will never ditch the Power Mac lineup. I am pretty sure the majority of the people who purchase their expensive professional software (Logic, Final Cut, etc) use a Mac Pro as their mobile computers are just not powerful enough.

I have to agree with Lowfat. As an editor I'd hate being forced to an iMac or MacBook Pro because the render time is quite a bit longer then that of the Mac Pro. Yes, Apple may be selling mostly MacBook Pros but they will never discontinue their Pro desktop line.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dj_stick

lol i love when people refer to the powermac/mac pro series as "G5", especially since no mac has used a G5 processor in 2 years, and imacs also used the same processor

EDIT: the reason why OS X is as great as it is, is because of the intergration with the hardware - start selling OS X for PCs, and you're going to have far more problems with OS X than with Windows (simply because Windows already supports a much wider range of platforms and hardware)

I agree. The PC side has a slew of hardware components available to them and then hundreds if not thousands of possible configurations. Getting all those hardware companies to create Mac drivers will be no easy feat. Most of them would probably resist because they won't see as profitable an outcome researching and designing new drivers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wavelabs

I was talking about this: Mac Pro - Apple Store (U.S.)

And thats the reason why people are currently using HACKINTOSH.

That's the Mac Pro. The G5 was the last in the PowerMac line.

As for Hackintosh I don't think it's a large percentage of people doing it because there is a bit of work to get it working properly. People that are doing it like to play with hardware and software and get things working. They like to tinker around in their free time. Most people won't go through the hassle.

Until the cost is beneficial to Apple they'll keep OS X exclusive to Macs. And depending on the outcome of Pystar (sic?) this could be a good long while.

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fobis DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 741 Rep Power: 36	I love Mac OS X 10.4 to death. It's mostly stable and awesome for what I do (including word processing, email, internet, chatting, etc). I also play a few games including Halo, StarCraft, Star Wars: Empire at War, Civ3, Civ4, Tetris Zone, and best of all: Lux Deluxe. It really is an awesome OS for my purposes, but it's not the BEST OS out there. Windows is definitely not the best, nor is it the worst. There's a large support base for Windows (well-needed at that) and it has a much larger foothold in the gaming industry. Both Mac and Windows have their ups and downs. Microsoft has a monopoly on the market and one could potentially say that they force users into using it, blah blah blah. Apple charges an absurd amount for their hardware and only allow their OS's on their hardware, along with the fact they don't support new hardware nearly as quickly and they overcharge for the latest and greatest, too. Tons more to list, but why bother? Bottom line: I feel OS X is a good OS worthy for daily use by anyone. __________________ MacBook Pro Mac OS X Leopard 10.5.4 Intel Core 2 Duo 2.33GHz 2GB DDR2-677 ATi Mobility Radeon X1600 256MB 120GB 7200RPM SATA HDD

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Apr 17, 2007, 07:26 PM	#8
~~DudeBoyz~~ banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: USA Posts: 1,678 Rep Power: 0	It is a very good, stable Operating System. However, imo, it is hampered by a lack of configurability, especially in terms of the interface. Finder, in particular, is not a very good introduction to the system. I use a different app for file management - I prefer the dual-pane stuff like the old Norton Commander interface. It's called muCommander: http://www.mucommander.com/ It helps take the hassle out of file management and I can avoid Finder about 80% of the time, thankfully. There are some really good features in OS X, including the built-in partition and drive management, the way it handles disk images in the DMG format (thought I do wish they defaulted to ISO instead), and in particular, it handles Windows Networking very well right out of the box. It activates SAMBA by default and I can find and access Windows shares and printers easily, provided the printers do not have a space in the shared ID name. I find it to be better than Linux in many areas. I like the System Preferences dialog, which is even easier than the classic Control Panel in Windows, and I like the Software Update feature, which is better than Windows Update. But the lack of flexibility, especially in terms of configuration of the interface, really does hamper it in my opinion. Plus, it lacks the huge amount of apps that Windows has. If OS X had that kind of third party application and utility support, I think it could really be a contender. As it is, I use Windows as my primary OS and will continue to because it's the most productive environment for me. I still use OS X on my Mac, but the PC is where the work gets done.

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zaim DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Melbourne, AU Posts: 1,044 Rep Power: 25	There are a few functions in OSX i really like on the mac notebooks... like when you slide your finger to top right of the glide pad, it shows all windows up on screen in a neat fashion.. and slide to top left, it moves all windows out of the way to show the desktop that is ALL i like about mac osx. on a notebook. __________________ زعيم MAIN PC(1)(2)(3):•Q9550•GAP35DS3P• 4GBCrucialPC2-8500BallistixTracerLED•XFX9800GTX•3x146GB CheetahSAS15K.5 Raid0•2x 1TB Raid1•LianLiA10B•2x22"5ms@3360x1050• BEDROOM HTPC(1)(2)(3):E6600•MSI945GM3-F•2048DDR2667•1TB•Samsung26"HDTV•HybridHDTV•5.1• Laptop:•Centrino2 P8400 1066fsb•4GB-DDR2 800•320GBSATA•DVDDL•15.4"WXGA•802.11a/b/g/n• WHServer:•AM2 5200+•2GB DDR2 800•Lots of TB Storage•1GB TCP/IP• www.zaimc.com // myspace/zaimc // zaimm.deviantart BLOG BLOG BLOG BLOG BLOG 16 x 92mm fan + radiator experiment!

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thunderclap DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 287 Rep Power: 17	Where's the Amiga OS? While I use Mac primarily I do use Vista but only for games. They both have their good things and bad. I have had on RARE occasions an OS crash on the Mac side it has never come near to what I experienced on Windows though.

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Tipstaff DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Real capital of Canada: Toronto Posts: 5,532 Rep Power: 95 System Specs	This job I was doing for a client was installing a Windows 2003 SBS server, and one of the hurdles I had to overcome was to transfer their data from the old file server they had. The problem? Existing data that was shared by a Mac Pro running OS X 10.4. Suffice it to say, 2 weeks later, I'm starting to like the interface. It was very fast, and very responsive. However, this experience with OS X 10.4 was on a RISC based Mac Pro, and not on an Mactel. The few times I've sold a Mac Book in the last year I was totally unimpressed by it. I've used Celeron based machines more responsive, and faster than on of those things. But this RISC based Mac Pro.... nice machine. __________________ >><<

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mixedupmacandpc DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: kathmandu nepal Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	man i got a new mbp and lovin it... after 20 years on pcs, i actually found a computer that i like to use on a daily basis, and that that's a mbp on a stand with aluminum apple keyboard, wacom tablet/w/mouse, and external samsung syncmaster. of course i have to have a windows server to hold all the data, but osx and the mbp is just elegant and snappy compared to any of the pcs i have, and is the nicest laptop i've used. not sure why folks would buy anything else these days...imac and macpros, very nice.

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Lowfat Xtreme Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Grande Prairie, AB, Can Posts: 3,951 Rep Power: 61	Re: Mac OSX - best operating system? Apple will never ever sell an OS that is meant to be installed on non-Mac's legally. They would loose money hand over fist. __________________ i7 920 on phase change * EX58-UD5 * 6GB @ 1600MHz * HD4550 * X25-M RAID0 * Enermax Revo 85+ 1050W * Silverstone FT01BW Q8200 @ 3GHz * P5Q Pro* 4GB @ 878MHz * 9500GT * Auzen Prelude * 30GB Vertex * 11.5TB * Seasonic 420 M12-II * Silverstone LC17B * LG GGC-H20L

Feb 3, 2009, 09:39 AM	#24
thunderclap DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 287 Rep Power: 17	Re: Mac OSX - best operating system? Apple is, first and foremost, a hardware vendor. They want to sell their hardware. Their software is designed to get you to buy their computers. Plain and simple. If they opened OS X to PC compatible systems they would lose out on a lot more money. For this reason I don't think they'll ever release a "PC" version of their OS. I'd like them to, but I don't see it happening. __________________ Marc B. Genrefinity.net - Your source for all things in the horror, science fiction and fantasy genres

Feb 3, 2009, 12:23 PM	#25
Wavelabs DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 48 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Re: Mac OSX - best operating system? That is very true.! But - and their always a but.......lol At this day in age, things are getting smaller and smaller. with the world now in its craze for Mini Laptops either PC or MAC. Examples are: MacBook Air & EEec PC's I believe most desktops right now are ruled by Windows Users. Primarily for gaming and home entertainment. Apple currently is not selling many desktops at this day in age, but on the PC side of it, they are. Many Apple users are primarily purchasing laptops. Example: MacBook Pro. Apple since is going smaller and smaller each quarter of the season, I believe they are concentrating on more portable hardware than actual large desktop stuff. - they barely selling any G5's due to how expensive they are, as well as bulky. MAC users will prefer to actually purchase a Laptop than an extremely expensive G5 Desktop that will break anyones pocket. Its my prediction and belief that Apple will stop selling G5 eventually and not even manufacture any new ones like a G6 due to this. As anyone knows and can already see, they even have a MacBook Air. Its all about going smaller and gearing away from desktops themselves. More portability in coming years. ("smaller and faster") and I believe Apple would sell more MAC-OSX for PC desktop users, as well as sell them for their hardcore MAC Laptop users. ("MacBook Pro & Air"). As they concentrate more on smaller and innovative inventions of Apple gear. Such as: iPhone, iTouch, iPOD, MacBook Pro & MacBook Air. See how everything Apple does gets smaller and smaller.? It would only be a right decision to sell MAC-OSX to PC users to sell more operating system softwares. As PC users will not purchase the expensive, pocket breaking G5. With that said, since most PC users are still hardcore using actual desktops, I believe the best outcome is for Apple MAC-OSX to actually be installed on PC hardware. And Apple would concentrate on their Laptops and iPhone and iPods, and any other great portable innovative devices they will release in coming years. Thus, give a hard slap in the face to Microsoft. Think about it for a sec. Last edited by Wavelabs; Feb 3, 2009 at 12:43 PM.

Feb 3, 2009, 06:02 PM	#26
Lowfat Xtreme Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Grande Prairie, AB, Can Posts: 3,951 Rep Power: 61	Re: Mac OSX - best operating system? I assume by G5 you are referring to the Mac Pro. G5 was a processor. And they quit using it in Jan 2006. There will be no way that Apple would sell OS X to be installed on non-Mac PC's. Like Thunderclap said, they are a hardware manufacturer that happens to sell/make software to run specifically on this hardware. How many people do you think would buy their computers if OS X would run on a Dell that was cheaper? Significantly less, including me. I love my MBP but I really wouldn't of bought it if I could use OS X on my desktops legally. Plus the reason why OS X runs as well/stable as it does is because the limited amount of chipsets/motherboards/etc that they need to support. Yes portable computers are the largest part of Apple's computer sales. However they will never ditch the Power Mac lineup. I am pretty sure the majority of the people who purchase their expensive professional software (Logic, Final Cut, etc) use a Mac Pro as their mobile computers are just not powerful enough. __________________ i7 920 on phase change * EX58-UD5 * 6GB @ 1600MHz * HD4550 * X25-M RAID0 * Enermax Revo 85+ 1050W * Silverstone FT01BW Q8200 @ 3GHz * P5Q Pro* 4GB @ 878MHz * 9500GT * Auzen Prelude * 30GB Vertex * 11.5TB * Seasonic 420 M12-II * Silverstone LC17B * LG GGC-H20L

Feb 3, 2009, 08:29 PM	#27
SeraphicSorcerer Driverheaven's Sorcerer Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Ocala, FL Posts: 1,136 Rep Power: 74 System Specs	Re: Mac OSX - best operating system? Mac OS X is a great OS. Hands down. __________________

Feb 4, 2009, 01:46 AM	#29
Wavelabs DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 48 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Re: Mac OSX - best operating system? I was talking about this: http://store.apple.com/us/browse/hom...ro?mco=MTE2NjQ And thats the reason why people are currently using HACKINTOSH. Eventually it will force Apple to have MAC-OSX for PC hardwares. I am hoping it will force them, because myself as well as many others would love to see it happen. __________________ Pro-Tools v8 / Reason v4.1 / CubaseSX v4 / Wavelabs v6.1 / M-Audio 1814 / GT-66 MIC / TC Electronic Triple C / DBX Gate Event 20-20 Powered / Genelec 1030A / Pioneer EFX-1000 / Avalon VT-737sp Mic-Pre / Aphex Aural Exciter 104-C2 Last edited by Wavelabs; Feb 4, 2009 at 02:03 AM.